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@PlatinumSkink I was bored, so I thought I'd make something for background information.

She might play a role later, so it's nice to have it ^_^
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Everything is soooooi quiet...

We need to bring some life to this OOC~

How's that witch sheet comin along, Cleo?
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@A Cute Angel

Good to go

@GrafRoy Zeppeli

Ink buff seems a bit weird to me, since your characters wish is focused around creation rather than restoration. I think there's a more unique way for you to support others than just a typical "buff" ability. Ink realize feels a bit weird if it's limited to just the elements. You may want to expand on how she got to poland and why, as well.

@PlatinumSkink

Throwing knives with a cloth seems pretty weird, but you're good.

@Lolita Complex

Good to go

@Antarctic Termite

I think you should reevaluate your abilities and go with something else. The paint motifs you have throughout your ability set are more fitting for a witch than a magical girl. Theme and coherency in your abilities is critical. Also, I'd suggest revaluating the dynamic between your characters heritage and her world view/how she acts/who she is as a person.

@The book of bad juju

Reorganize her magical ability so there's more distinction between the core ability and secondaries, but it's perfectly fine otherwise. Also, move the charisma bit to her wish.

@Flamelord

Good to go

@Ariamis

Your ability set seems a bit weird for madoka. I'd suggest looking for something else, or completly redoing it in a magical girl way. Also your secondary abilities shouldn't be greater tiers of your core ability, rather, they should be new applications and uses for it.

@kusanagifire

Separate your abilities a bit more so that there's a clearer distinction between core and secondaries. A bit weird for a magical girl but it's acceptable.

@Vocab

The soul rending stuff doesn't mechanically work. There's no soul to hit when you target a magical girls body.

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After some private deliberation, it seems I've taken on the responsibility of being Co-GM.

Please look after me~
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The second slot is still open, however.
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@Cleopatra I mean it as directly attacking the soul.

The shell magical girls become is still controlled by the soul, and should (correct me if I'm wrong, which I likely am) still need normal things to survive (food, water, air). If you were to, say, shut down the brain by directly manipulating the soul, then the person would stop breathing, their heart would stop, and they would likely die.

We know that magical girls bleed, because Homura is shown to bleed in Rebellion. Therefore, stopping blood from pumping should have an effect.
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@Cleopatra Revamping abilities then. Will tell you when I'm finished.
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@Cleopatra Mmm. I see where you're coming from with perceiving a personality/bio disparity, but there are some aspects of Kei's identity that if I can't repair with selective rewording, I'd rather keep and then bench the character in her entirety and write a completely new one. Give me about 15 hours to figure that out (busy day), I'll see what I can do and get back to you.

Also, please explain how her paint themes don't work for a magical girl? Do they contrast with her wish or are each of them individually too varied from a core theme? Are they too destructively focused? I'm lost.

Edit: Also, can I ask for a Threads, Experience and Despair roll so I can get straight to constructing the replacement character if I decide to decommission Kei later today?
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If you were to, say, shut down the brain by directly manipulating the soul, then the person would stop breathing, their heart would stop, and they would likely die.


Soul Gems are what contain the girl's consciousness. Magical Girls can survive even if their head is completely destroyed, as long as they're properly repaired with magic.

I mean, they're basically liches. As long as their phylactery is intact and they're not witchified, they can't die.
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Also, please explain how her paint themes don't work for a magical girl? Do they contrast with her wish or are each of them individually too varied from a core theme? Are they too destructively focused? I'm lost.


It contrasts her wish a lot. It seems something that has to do more with her subconscious rather than her wish necessarily, which makes it seem like something she'd have as a Witch rather than a magical girl. I can get you new stats but I don't think it's necessary.
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@Cleopatra Edited my abilities. Let me know if these new ones are better or if it is still a nay.

Haven't moved Vic over to the Character tab. Should do that when I get the chance.
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It contrasts her wish a lot. It seems something that has to do more with her subconscious rather than her wish necessarily, which makes it seem like something she'd have as a Witch rather than a magical girl.


Ah, that's fair. Simpler to patch up than I expected, so I'll snip and snap and fix that up along with the rest of the edits. still haven't tweaked the kathy story either whoops

I mean, they're basically liches.


Glitter liches.

Best synonym for magical girls I've seen yet.
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Soul Gems are what contain the girl's consciousness. Magical Girls can survive even if their head is completely destroyed, as long as they're properly repaired with magic.

I mean, they're basically liches. As long as their phylactery is intact and they're not witchified, they can't die.


Me and some friends have also extrapolated that magical girls also don't need to eat or sleep, though going to such lengths would require knowing the lich bomb, and probably wouldn't feel all that good at first given how your brain is hardwired to do that stuff. Also, it's questionable whether magical girls can become drunk. Magic is one hell of a drug.

Not that it's relevant, just noting it.
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@Cleopatra The 'throwing the knives with the cloth' was mostly to ensure she doesn't actually have to drop her cloth in order to throw the knives, and also replicate the "floating knives" effect that's in her image. Mostly, the knives will be invisible, and then she throws her cloth around and the knives appear, and then another strike to send them towards a target with Magical Girl amount of power, I imagine with a light purple special effects aura around them to signify kinda strong thrown knives. Haha.
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@Cleopatra
Weird? I thought the power was actually very basic and bland compared to some of the other characters.
And shape shifting was intended as a new application of the core ability of manipulating one's physical self.

But fine, I'll think of a more "Meguca" power set. I'm open to suggestions. What would be acceptable "Madoka-like" powers? Gravity control? Telekinesis? Rainbow beams? Is it enough if I shift the core ability to be shape-changing instead? There's canon examples of that like Nagisa in Rebellion, so I think that would fit in.
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@Cleopatra I changed the soul binding bit, since I get how that wouldn't work.

But for the other ability to do with the soul, the finisher, would still work (I think). There is a soul to hit, technically, it's just in the shape of a gem. The finisher is literally attacking the soul gem, not the magical girl.

If that isn't okay, I have another idea in mind for it.

@A Cute Angel@Lolita Complex welp, I need to brush up on my Madoka knowledge.
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It could be kind of rage-inducing, given that for most if not all magical girls one tap on the gem and they're dead. Nobody likes being taken out with just one attack.
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It could be kind of rage-inducing, given that for most if not all magical girls one tap on the gem and they're dead. Nobody likes being taken out with just one attack.


Sayaka's gem survived a fall off a bridge without breaking, so I think we can assume that they're not quite baubles in terms of fragility (depending on what was in the truck, of course). The ones which have broken over the course of the series have (as I recall) been either chewed up and broken by witches or targeted specifically by other magical girls at a very close range. So their palm-sized nature does help a lot in that case.

I put Kei's on an anklet specifically to match up with the Achilles' Heel metaphor.
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Sayaka got killed by Mami during episode ten. Not even a called shot, a sudden attack while she wasn't ever aware and boom, dead. If we have an attack that specifically targets the soul, no matter if it's a big Tiro Final -esque attack or a sudden hit with any weapon within reach, and the only way that could be avoided or deflected in any way was to just say "It missed", it's either going to be stupidly overpowered or so underpowered it never feels like a real threat. I think that's what you call "Balance"
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