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Villains are off limits now even for secondary characters? @Ruby Can I have permission to flesh out the Jester character leading the Jokerz if nobody has any plans for him?

And @Rin the 90's X-Men cartoon is what made those mutants so popular with fans back then. Cool theme music, best voice ever for Wolverine, the Phoenix/Dark Phoenix Sagas, etc... it was all amazing. And for the record I LOVED the Clone Saga back then too with Spiderman and the introduction of Ben Rielly and Kane. When it ended the way it did and Marvel turned their back on the new fans they'd gained in favor of bringing back a status quo along with Norman Osborn let alone killing the 'perfect clone' in a way it was said he'd never die... I just gave up on Marvel for the better part of two decades. I've got the Madrox mini series, the retold Clone Saga mini they did for how it was *supposed* to end [with Ben still alive and on the road again as Scarlet Spider], and the Hickman run of Fantastic 4 that lead in Future Foundation which I also got the most of.

I thought about GM'ing another game, originally the idea was a Batman Inc. type game but I opted for this. The other idea was something with the X-Men...

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Yup, even with secondary characters for right now.
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@Jinny Jester is just a character that could still be a bit of anything, however he was mentioned as being the leader of the Jokerz in the OP. I wasn't sure if one of the GM's already had plans set for the Jokerz and the Jester, but if not they play a big part in my guy's story and I'd still like to flesh out the gang's leader even if it's not for a secondary character spot. It's still a sandbox and anybody could use him... I just want to actually define who he is and what he's about. The only Jester from DC I can think of has ties to the Golden Age and more recently became a villain against the Freedom Fighters but I doubt it's the same guy...

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Jason was once a Robin, yeah, long before he became Red Hood.


If. If he becomes Red Hood.

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@Jinny Jester is just a character that could still be a bit of anything, however he was mentioned as being the leader of the Jokerz in the OP. I wasn't sure if one of the GM's already had plans set for the Jokerz and the Jester, but if not they play a big part in my guy's story and I'd still like to flesh out the gang's leader even if it's not for a secondary character spot. It's still a sandbox and anybody could use him... I just want to actually define who he is and what he's about. The only Jester from DC I can think of has ties to the Golden Age and more recently became a villain against the Freedom Fighters but I doubt it's the same guy...

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Jester is the Crime Syndicate counterpart to the Joker, isn't he?

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In the comics more recently it was a color swapped Joker simply called the Jokester. In that animated movie that featured an altered take on the Crime Syndicate he was called Jester I think, but he also died the first five minutes into the movie...

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@The Kid LanternDunno if you've ever checked out Ultimate Spider-man (which is actually my favourite Spider-man comic series; say what you will about the rest of the Ultimate Universe but both Spideys' were always pretty well done), but their version of the Clone Saga is pretty top notch honestly. And it also introduces my favourite version of Spider-woman so yeah. XD
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And it also introduces my favourite version of Spider-woman so yeah.


But she's just Ben Reilly with boobs!
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But she's just Ben Reilly with boobs!


MY FAVOURITE VERSION OF SPIDER-WOMAN :D
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But she's just Ben Reilly with boobs!


Sounds like the only possible way to improve upon Ben.

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Sounds like the only possible way to improve upon Ben.


Well, they could just bring him back... LOL

The clone who died from degeneration that was supposed to be Ben could've just as well been another clone. Ben was supposed to be perfect and lack the necessary flaws needed to degenerate over time. @Rin I did enjoy bits and pieces from that Ultimate story. Making the Scorpion a Spidey clone was brilliant, and I enjoyed the six-armed black suited Tarantula.

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Trying to get back on topic... I wish now I wouldn't have jumped on using the Crimson Avenger. He's a lot like the Green Hornet, which isn't a problem... but now I'm thinking I should've maybe done the Question or try and bring in some form of Rorschach. Still a vigilante in a fedora, just with more extreme methods...

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J A S O N T O D D


| B I R T H N A M E: |
Jason Peter Todd


| N I C K N A M E ( S ): |
Jay
Hot shot.


| A L I A S ( E S ): |
Robin II


| A G E: |
22


| A P P E A R A N C E: |
6'1, 190 pounds, Jason keeps in remarkable shape, far exceeding that of his peers. Spending several hours a day working out, both for his job and as a force of habit. With his upbringing his physical shape was the difference between life and death. His hair is light brown, it looks red in certain lights. He's got bright blue eyes, whenever he laughs his face breaks into a crooked smile. The young man sports several scars and long since healed bruises in his face, everything from fists to shrapnel has left it's mark on his body. While on duty, he dresses in the standard uniform, but on his free time he keep a Biker-esque motif. T-shirts with the Grim Reaper or Tombstones on them are plenty in his wardrobe – so are Half Life 2 shirts.


| A B I L I T I E S: |
Mental Capacity;
When compared to the other Robins, or the big Bat himself, Jason is a dunce, but compared to the average human, he's off the charts. His reflexes, reaction times and problem solving abilities as well as pattern recognition abilities are all most impressive, graduating top of his class without even straining himself.


Cheating Death;
Lot of people die, few come back from the dead, Jason can count himself into that very exclusive club.


| S K I L L S: |
Hand-To-Hand;
Bruce Wayne, Vic Sage are both among his teachers in Close Quarters Combat. While the amount of martial arts he is trained in could be counted on both hands, he is most proficient in Krav Maga as well as grappling. If compared to his fellow Robins, Jason lacks the finesse and agility in his combat style the others possesses, making up for it with sheer ferocity and raw strength. However, due to his line of duty, he rarely gets the opportunity to make a cartwheel somersault spin-kick anymore.

Detective Skills;
Getting taught criminology by Batman had it's perks – it made the Police Academy a breeze, for instance.


Marksmanship:
Handguns, Shotguns, Snipers, he's skilled with all of them. Prefering the Police Issued Glock 9MM over all. He could probably figure out how to use a bow and Arrow, too.


| W E A K N E S S E S: |
Jason, for all of his skills is just a human, and as far as humans with vigilante backgrounds, he's vastly inferior to his both senior and junior Robins. He's gotten less training and less experience than all of them.

Beyond that, he wears a target on his back, and it isn't a red R. It's a Golden Star on a blue Jacket, which in Gotham is just about the same as a bullseye.

Further, Jason did beat death, but it didn't come without it's drawbacks. Jason is suffering from extreme Post Traumatic Stress so much so that he could be labeled clinically insane. Kept together by constantly keeping himself in check – possible all thanks to the training he received from Vic Sage, that Sage in turn got from Richard Dragon.


| B I O G R A P H Y: |
When Hell Is Full, The Wicked Shall Walk Earth Once More.


Born to a Junkie mother and a Thug father, his father went to jail and his mother overdosed and died by the time Jason was four years old. Since then, he had to fend for himself on the harsh streets of Gotham, no Orphanage took him in and nobody was there to fight for him. His only friend in the world was himself. He was quick to learn how to steal, but it took him longer to learn to not get caught, and as such, by the time had was 9 he had spent more nights at the Police Station than most career criminals would in their entire life. When Jason was 12 he found the Batmobile parked outside of the apartment complex he at the time called his home.

What would most 12 year olds do when they see the vehicle of the legendary hero parked outside of their porch? Probably hang around for an autograph. What did Jason Todd do? He decided to steal the tires of the car. Because of course he did.

Getting caught in the act, Batman tossed the young urchin around. Jason spewed some venomous words at the Caped Crusader, and it earned him a look that might as well have been a swift kick to the ribs.

Batman would find out Jason's identity and keep him in his sights, like he did quite a few other kids around the city, Jason would receive a full ride from the Wayne Foundation to attend Gotham High, reluctantly, the street urchin put on the monkey suit they called a school uniform and attended school – he didn't fit in, but he showed his potential, both academically and physically. The same year he would be taken in by Bruce Wayne and brought into the fold, his training into Robin went fast, only four months of training. At first, he showed as much promise, if not more than his predecessor.

But with time, Bruce came to realize that Jason lacked the compassion Dick had. Jason was more concerned with getting Vengeance on the thugs who's collar bones he pulverized, than getting Justice for those they had hurt. Jason was angry. Really Angry And that's what landed him in the trap set by the Joker, a trap involving promises of Jason's mother still being alive. And Robin went off on his own.

Days of brutal torture at the hands of the Clown Prince Of Crime, the deranged lunatic broke the Robin. And when Batman was but moments away from saving him, an explosion would end the story of Jason Todd.

Or so one would have thought. Through means nobody could explain, two years later, Jason awoke in a dark and damp room, soon realizing it was a casket. Using the belt-buckle on the suit he was buried in, wrapping the metal onto his knuckles, he punched his way through the solid wood and crawled his way back to the realm of the living. By all logic, he would have been in a 16 year old's body – not that there would have been much of a body left. And yet, there he was, his body older than when he died and fully functional.

While at the start, Jason thought himself to be perfectly normal, he found a convenient store where he grabbed several bottles of water and attempted to make a phone call, the line was dead and a fat trucker was bothered a young woman behind him in line. Words were said and the trucker hit the woman – the same way Jason's father had hit his mother in his earliest memories. The same way The Joker had hit him.

And so the manical laughter rang inside of his head and in a blood raged fury, Jason had grabbed the trucker by a choke hold and dragged him into the men's bathroom. Beating the man to death by bashing his head against the walls. He had broken Batman's code, and as he stood there with warm blood trickling down his fist, he felt no remorse. He wasn't sorry, and he wasn't going to stop.

Making his way back from the hellhole he had been buried in, he would come to Gotham and find out that Bruce hadn't killed the Joker, after all. That after all The Joker had done to him, that piece of shit was still breating. Jason had loved Bruce like the father he never had, with his everything, and yet, to Bruce, Jason was nothing. A tool, a good little soldier, nothing more. A soldier that was easily replaced.

Angry and upset, Jason would proceed to make plans to kill Bruce. Appearing in the criminal underworld donning biker leathers and a red biker helm, using the tactics Bruce had taught him – but corrupted and sinister, he slaughtered several gangs, putting an end to their activities in a way Batman never had the guts to do.

One night, Batman and the new Robin – Tim Drake was following up a lead. Knowing where Bruce would park the Batmobile in relation to the location, Jason made sure to be there. Planting enough explosives to destroy half a city block under the would be tank. He waited for Batman and Robin to get in as he held his hand on the detonator. He heard a voice. Was it his soul? Did he have one? Adrenaline pumped as he got ready to destroy his one time hero and his new ward. But then a tap on his shoulder and a swift fist to the face changed his tune. As he hit the floor of the rooftop and his helm cracked open. Before him he saw a blue cape. Peering his eyes upwards, he would find it wasn't a cape, but a coat. That of the Hub City Detective – The one without a face, the living Enigma. The Question.

The two fought for a moment while the Batmobile sped off, unknowing of how close the dynamic duo had been to meet their doom. The Question had tracked Jason's activities, and was there to help him, he claimed. In a way, Question was much like Bruce, his way of helping relied a lot of physical violence.

Getting his face beaten in wasn't the worst thing to happen to Jason, as it turned out, for when the Vigilante had beaten him unconscious, he woke up in a apartment, restrained by handcuffs. Cuffs he could break out of in a few moments, if he so wanted. Opposed to him sat the blue clad vigilante, looking at him – even if it was impossible to tell due to the mask he wore.

They talked, at first for a few minutes. Then for hours. And soon, Jason realized that he was broken, and that Vic Sage understood him, in a way Bruce Wayne never could have. Every time in the coming 9 months he would act out, get violent, Vic Sage would put him in his place. Show him a different way. The way of meditation and discipline, the same way Vic had been taught by Richard Dragon. A way Jason could get rid of the anger and the blood lust he felt. That he could let go of his hatred for Bruce, for the Joker and for the world.

With time, and a lot of sparring, Jason would learn to control himself. A man who had beaten death and come back from the other side, he had finally been reborn. He had learned how to break free of the chains put on him. Of his past, that he wasn't a deadbeat like his mother or a thug like his father. He wasn't Bruce, and he wasn't Robin, he wasn't the Joker, nor was he the circumference of all of these things. He was Jason Todd, and he had been given a second chance at life. A chance he wouldn't squander.

In the following two years he would enroll in the Hub City Police Academy, still troubled and still dead as far as anyone in Gotham knew, all the trails of his criminal activities had been swept clean by Vic. He graduated top of his class, becoming a proud officer of the HCPD, until the news hit him. The Joker was dead, and Bruce was gone.

It was time, that for real, Jason Todd would rise from the ashes and come back to the world of the living. It was time to go back to Gotham.


| M I S C. N O T E S: |
Over the years as a police officer, his martial arts skills have diminished, the average thug doesn't require the Hand to Hand combat skill to take down that a super villain would. He stays far from the attention of the Batfamily, but he isn't hiding. He didn't change his name, nor is he hiding his views of the vigilantes, being one of many in the GCPD who supports them.
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@Jinny Jester is just a character that could still be a bit of anything, however he was mentioned as being the leader of the Jokerz in the OP. I wasn't sure if one of the GM's already had plans set for the Jokerz and the Jester, but if not they play a big part in my guy's story and I'd still like to flesh out the gang's leader even if it's not for a secondary character spot. It's still a sandbox and anybody could use him... I just want to actually define who he is and what he's about. The only Jester from DC I can think of has ties to the Golden Age and more recently became a villain against the Freedom Fighters but I doubt it's the same guy...

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@HillanWhy not just do an OC detective instead of taking Jason and then...mostly not making him Jason? Also you misspelled Krav Maga

Also am plotting some Damian things out for once things with Rin and I get going
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#JustUseJohnJosephGordonLevittBlake

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@HillanWhy not just do an OC detective instead of taking Jason and then...mostly not making him Jason? Also you misspelled Krav Maga

Also am plotting some Damian things out for once things with Rin and I get going


Cheers. I always mess that one up, couldn't tell you why.

Edit; Also, neither of those two suggestions would really work for what I am going for, but thanks anyway.
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Cheers. I always mess that one up, couldn't tell you why.


Welcome. Though seriously, nothing against you personally but I'm confused as to how your guy is still Jason Todd or why you want to use him for that when it seems like it'd fit an OC or an actual DC comics detective much better and free up the space for someone who actually wants to play Jason Todd. I'm not the GM though, so I'll let the matter drop if you like.
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Welcome. Though seriously, nothing against you personally but I'm confused as to how your guy is still Jason Todd or why you want to use him for that when it seems like it'd fit an OC or an actual DC comics detective much better and free up the space for someone who actually wants to play Jason Todd. I'm not the GM though, so I'll let the matter drop if you like.


I did consider it, boy, did I. But I knew I wanted to go for the Ex-Vigilante, looking in at the superhero life from the side of someone who doesn't wear a cape, it would be far more convoluted to make a OC that used to be a superhero and now became a cop. It adds a new dynamic to Mr.Todd if he's aware of the fact that he's insane and actively trying his best to keep himself on the straight and narrow.

And I'm dying for the interactions he'd have with his former "family".
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Hmm. That could be interesting to see played out. Since Dick is a cop I'm sure there'd be some friendly pointers and guidance he can offer.
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Put that way it is at least better, yes. Still eh on the concept itself, but we'll see.
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Hmm. That could be interesting to see played out. Since Dick is a cop I'm sure there'd be some friendly pointers and guidance he can offer.


I saw that, it actually kind of made me reconsider my entire idea, but then I was like. "Know what? That'll be interesting."

But, yeah, in a few ways he's the exact opposite of the Red Hood. He still wants to solve crime in a different way than Batman does. I didn't really illustrate it in my sheet, but I think some part of him doesn't like the idea that an entire city relies on one guy to be kept safe. He wants to show Gotham that the Police Department are just as powerful as Batman at stopping crime - that Gotham doesn't need Batman, that the people of Gotham can be stronger than the criminals who plague her. Again, that's an angle that wouldn't work with an OC, unless I made an OC who used to be a Batman sidekick who has a very deep personal relationship with Batman and his allies.

But then one would wonder why I don't just play Jason Todd, so, that's how I got here.

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