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Humanity, fuck yeah. I'll either be making a scheming nobleman or a Knight of the Ram. Magic is for nerds. This looks like it's going to be great.


You don't have to, but consider reading the history of my character's sheet - it's something of a hidden lore for Ram Knights.
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As far as my characters go, I know I'll be doing Pietro, a travelling nobleman-turned-duelist. My other character will either be an orcish monk or a Fairfolk potion-maker (Anna in the NPC section).
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I need to finish the history of the character and do some polishing. I'm going to do other stuff for a while and I don't want to risk losing the post. I should be finished before the night's end.



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@NickTrano So there's nothing necessarily wrong with your sheet (like, everything checks out), but it is *very* similar to Kane's sheet, a character who Spoopy Scary submitted. If at all possible, I'd prefer if you could change it some to make it a bit more unique. Normally I'd be cool with it, but their personality is near-identical.

EDIT: Concordius lore is up.
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Is it? I didn't think so, in fact I checked through to make sure they weren't. I'll work on it to change it up if you'd like, but it'll take some time. The only similarity I saw was that they were both not too friendly with the nobility. Kane's an intellectual, Royce is a warrior. Kane's a blonde haired pretty boy, Royce is a boisterous mountain of a dude.

I guess what I'm asking is, what do you want me to change? I don't see very many similarities so I can't really fix a problem I'm blind to.
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@MaxxOk, I'm very honored to try and join this RP since I am doing the exact same thing with my own fantasy world series I've been making for years. I will do some reading tonight, but it might be a day or two before I have a character submitted.
Are there priests, monks, or paladins? Can a non priest or paladin be devout and wear a holy symbol?
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Well, Spoopy Scary himself brought it up to me. Both of them are brilliant commanders who care deeply about their men. Both are scrupulous when it comes to men who died under them. Both took a disliking to the nobility. Both are heroes of the common folk. Both are intelligent and are good at strategy. I might be able to have him explain it more efficiently, if you'd like.

@POOHEAD189 If you want a priest, I suggest the Servants of Concordius. They are travelling paladin-priests who traverse Concordius, healing the sick and protecting the people from monsters. You will find a good description of them on the Concordius lore page.
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Heh, I wouldn't call Royce a brilliant commander, or particularly intelligent, and it sounds like Kane wants to be a hero of the common folk. Their fighting styles and abilities are very different, as well as their circumstances and backstories. I can elaborate on points of his personality, but I think that taking a lot of those other broad points out would just take the character in a direction I don't want to take him. Making him a terrible commander, or making him not care about his men... I could maybe make the common folk hate him for some reason.

Otherwise, the character might just have to be scrapped and I can do something else. I'd rather not rip the soul out of a character because in some broad ways he's similar to another. The main similarity is that they're both knights (well, kind of in Kane's case) and they're both not assholes.
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Is it? I didn't think so, in fact I checked through to make sure they weren't. I'll work on it to change it up if you'd like, but it'll take some time. The only similarity I saw was that they were both not too friendly with the nobility. Kane's an intellectual, Royce is a warrior. Kane's a blonde haired pretty boy, Royce is a boisterous mountain of a dude.

I guess what I'm asking is, what do you want me to change? I don't see very many similarities so I can't really fix a problem I'm blind to.


You forgot to say "bitch."

I mean, make no mistake, Kane takes care of his appearance, but that is because he is part of a noble order and it is practically required of him. There's nothing stopping him from getting down and dirty, and he went through all the same training, so their builds won't be very different, and their skill would be close.

In fact, you even mentioned him as a great strategist and an intellectual fighter, so I'm wondering why you're drawing that line now. Both are considered heroes of the downtrodden, are natural leaders. Sure, all of these qualities befit Knights, it just doesn't contrast with the current roster. I'm not gonna stop you from continuing the sheet, if we have two very similar characters, then so be it. I just warn that IC writing might feel crowded.
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You're right. I used the wrong word when describing his fighting. The direction I was trying to take that was basically to say that his reflexes aren't particularly fast and he knows that, so he tries to take advantage of opponents' own openings rather than making his own. Similarly with the strategy, I was trying to convey that that was what he cared the most about, not to say that he was a genius with regards to it.

He's older than Kane, and more set in his ways. He doesn't care about changing the kingdom, he cares about doing right by the people under him. Kane might have talent and training, but Royce has experience. In demeanor and action, he's more reminiscent of a seasoned sergeant than a noble knight. In court and among the royalty, he's awkward not because of an idealistic desire to fix the place, but because nothing about him fits with the culture of the upper crust of society. He's scarred, he's huge, he's angry looking, he's got a limp and he's missing fingers. His physique wouldn't be similar to Kane's simply because they trained in the same place more than fifteen years ago, and his skills and fighting style wouldn't be the same because that's never the case.

Look, I'm not trying to start an argument. I'm just saying that I can emphasize the differences or make a different character. I'd prefer to keep my character, as I think writing him could be quite a bit of fun and the way I'm picturing him is quite a bit different from how I picture what I read of Kane. If that's a non-starter, I'll just get the creative juices flowing some other time and make someone different. Probably that scheming nobleman I was talking about.

EDIT: Edited to elaborate.
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I'm not trying to start an argument either, I was just bringing up some notes that might make writing a little awkward later. There's technically nothing wrong with your character, so you don't have to worry about that. This is just a heads up.
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You can do either. Though I'd prefer not having two very similar characters, there's no intrinsic problem with your character at all, in terms of balance and construction. Ultimately, it's your character, and you can do whatever you'd like. We're just trying to point out ways in which we can make the RP's cast more diverse.

Also, if you want to emphasize the "mountain man" aspect of Royce, I'd suggest looking into changing him to an Orc. Once again, absolutely no problem with him being human, just a suggestion that might make him seem more like what I believe you're trying to convey.
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I'm generally a humanity fuck yeah kind of player, so the orc thing doesn't really appeal to me. I can emphasize the facets I pointed out in my edit of the above post, and see about doing some other stuff. I don't see the similarities that much beyond very broad generalizations (Kind of like how the Wheel of Time and Lord of the Rings could be called the same story if you just hit the major bullets). I think in writing, the differences will be even more pronounced.
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Alright, excellent. I await the final completion of the sheet!
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Man... I got quite a bit catching up to do and digest a bunch of OOC information. Still cool that things are happening here.
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Man... I got quite a bit catching up to do and digest a bunch of OOC information. Still cool that things are happening here.


Okay. Let me know if you have any questions.
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Okay. Let me know if you have any questions.


Will do, now that I'm really digging into this world I honestly have to say that I'm both very slightly intimidated, but also pretty excited to take part. I say intimidated since I'm partly worried about flubbing some lore up, or just make a mistake with whatever character I decide to make. Suppose the Valkyries caught my attention the most out of the other races, so toying around with ideas I could possibly do with a Valkyrie at the moment.
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Will do, now that I'm really digging into this world I honestly have to say that I'm both very slightly intimidated, but also pretty excited to take part. I say intimidated since I'm partly worried about flubbing some lore up, or just make a mistake with whatever character I decide to make. Suppose the Valkyries caught my attention the most out of the other races, so toying around with ideas I could possibly do with a Valkyrie at the moment.


Awesome! Yeah, I know the lore is pretty long and complex. Having a valkyrie character would be really awesome.
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