Personally, I like the idea of Henry's power. Discord has a point on it being hard for the government to deal with if permanent. How would they even move him to TEF-149 like that?

All things considered, Henry is the size of a rhino. This issue of moving him somewhere can be tackled in many ways. The simplest would be demonstrated by these two images.




Pretty much the same way zoos get large exotic animals onto their grounds. If The Cheyenne Mountain Zoo can manage an elephant, and the Alligator Farm can manage hundreds of Alligators that are a third Henry's size as adults... is it really unrealistic that a government funded organization such as the TEF would have a hard time managing him with a budget their size?

All things considered they could just go Harambe on his ass with a large gun and it'd be over pretty quick. Henry isn't obscenely strong compared to modern animals. He is basically a person turned gorilla-crocodile. The only difference is that if you cut off his arm he'd regrow it after a month. Put a big enough bullet in his skull, and he'll die just as any other animal.

The problem with a tranq would just be getting it through the thick ass scales. You'd either need to do that somehow, which I feel like would fuck the tranq dart up a good bit, or find a nice fleshy spot, but then you'd need to deal with getting in a good range to do so, risking life and limb dealing with a monster.

@JunkMail

I like Henry. :B But I think if the govt was going to go so far out of their way to get special gear to move him, there would have to be one of two things going on: A, he would need to be beneficial enough to society for them to justify the cost. Overall, the goal of the Facility is to train them to use their powers and, if they're successful, move them into populated areas (or wherever) in order to help society. Or B, there would have to be a number of larger Malfunctions that they already have that sort of gear for, which is definitely a possibility! I just dunno if many of our other members have thought about it very much.

I must say that he doesn't have any of the banned powers. Being super big and super strong is hard to counter, but it's not the same thing as "true invulnerability". It's also true that Daniyal's power to warp reality can be considered pretty badass, but it seems like @Witch Cat is pretty much limiting it to him making things explode by manipulating molecules (correct me if I'm wrong, Witch Cat), so if that's true it doesn't bother me. The one thing I do have to mention, though, is that Daniyal's ability to also warp the characters minds is on the banned power list (mind/emotion control).

Also, if Drei's ability is able to kill everyone in the same room as him, as @Treue just mentioned, then that would also kind of violate some of the banned power (your power being strong enough to OHKO another super or destroy a building in one hit and death touch), but it violates them in a sort of indirect, almost okay sort of way. It's not exactly a touch of death and he's not exactly destroying a building in one hit, but it is killing everyone in the building in one toxic hit.

I'm not saying that I want anyone's abilities to change, I'm just saying we should all either agree that it's okay for our characters to be almost-too OP as long as their weaknesses and limitations make up for it, or we should all agree that the things mentioned above are something the characters won't be able to do for a long, long while.

It's mentioned in the original post that all of our characters should be very new with their powers, because of the system of testing them every year. So I think that everyone should be very, very inexperienced. More specifically, in Henry's case, maybe his full transformation isn't complete? I think once he started having a few scales pop up in visible places, they would have already shipped him off to the Facility. Keep in mind that we're all supposed to be in the same batch of Mal's. They were all taken there together and sorted into groups of forty, so if a character had been there for longer and had developed their powers more, they would at the very least be in a different room than everyone else.

That also means that Daniyal should currently be limited to molecule manipulation, and Drei shouldn't be able to use super-toxic substances yet. I made my character based off of the fact that they weren't supposed to be too powerful or used to their powers, so Marlowe can't even control her abilities right now. All she could do is make someone a little sick, so I think we should all be on the same page as far as how developed our characters are.

(I was also going to mention this to @Jotunn Draugr since it seems like Xiu has already been there in her first IC post. I think we were all sorted at the same time so we all arrived on the same day, otherwise we wouldn't be in the same room as her. But please correct me if I'm wrong @SecretlyDiscord).

Sorry for the rant. :d These are just my thoughts on what would be the most fair for the characters that have already been created, and for Henry, too.

(I was also going to mention this to @Jotunn Draugr since it seems like Xiu has already been there in her first IC post. I think we were all sorted at the same time so we all arrived on the same day, otherwise we wouldn't be in the same room as her. But please correct me if I'm wrong @SecretlyDiscord).

Well I made it part of Xiu's biography, that because she's from District 13 (a far way away), she was shipped to the facility ahead of time, in a box.

@Jotunn Draugr My bad! I skimmed over her character but I didn't read it in detail, so I thought maybe she'd been there for a year or whatever already. Ignore me. :d

Ooh wooooooooow I missed a lot of stuff that happened. I'll try to catch up and reply to the stuff that concerns me.

Ok, so. I'll just make a bunch of bullet points to try to deal with everyone's concerns.

• Eldricth! I am (now) aware that that word is mostly used in a magical context, and isn't really used to describe any "sciency" things, but I didn't know that at the time I made my CS. I simply wanted to convey the idea that Daniyal's power source comes from an unknown and weird place, and I never intended it to be akin to something like mana. Besides, calling some eldritch is much cooler than calling it a Chutulu or weird fifty times over.
• Warping reality is a subset of Daniyal's powers, not the main focus. What Daniyal is proficient in is warping molecules. For example, speeding them up to make something hotter, increasing their density, etc. Warping reality involves stuff like slowing an area's perception of time, teleportation, etc. While I understand that people may think this is unfair, and that Daniyal is too OP. I did try to set in limitations that will limit, such as the wonderful possibility that Daniyal might accidently kill himself at any second if he misuses his powers too much, or the fact that warping organic matter is incredibly taxing on him as to ensure he never just liquifies you or something. I'm going to make sure warping reality is set to an absolute minimum, and that warping molecules will be the main focus.
• Daniyal's mind warping is not mind control, Daniyal is not able and will never be able to simply take over your mind and tell you what to do. No, what Daniyal can do however is warp your perception of reality. Some examples include inducing auditory and/or visual hallucinations, slowing down or speeding up your perception of times, inducing vivid visions, giving you false sensations, etc. Mind control will never be a part of his powers.
• All those examples I listed in the Powers tab, Daniyal is capable of doing. But, he isn't capable of doing them now. Daniyal's powers will obviously grow as he practices, but right now he is very weak. Stuff like warping your mind, teleportation, time displacement, etc. will kill him if he attempts them now. Maybe having a "skill tree" for all the characters will ensure that everyone will get a clear understanding of what a character can do at the moment, but that's a discussion for another time. So in short, right now you don't have to worry about Daniyal ripping a hole in the universe to summon a Lovecraftian beast.

I hope that cleared up any questions! Feel free to ask any questions and/or concerns you have! I'll just go tweak my CS a bit and start work on an IC post.

@Witch cat I was just using Daniyal and Drei as my main examples. I'm sure there are other characters that I'd have concerns about regarding their abilities, too, but I haven't thoroughly read all of the CS's and @JunkMail had already mentioned your character.

Mostly, I was just saying we should all agree that our characters are new as fuck to their powers, and that Henry should be too as far as his size and reptilian features. But, if we're gonna nitpick powers that are too OP or advanced right now, we should make sure we do it to everyone and not just new profiles to make sure things are fair. c:

EDIT: On a side note, @Dusksong, I meant to ask if it was okay to assume Aleyna wasn't in uniform after my last post but I forgot to ask. Thanks for going along with it. :B

@Witch cat I was just using Daniyal and Drei as my main examples. I'm sure there are other characters that I'd have concerns about regarding their abilities, too, but I haven't thoroughly read all of the CS's and @JunkMail had already mentioned your character.

Mostly, I was just saying we should all agree that our characters are new as fuck to their powers, and that Henry should be too as far as his size and reptilian features. But, if we're gonna nitpick powers that are too OP or advanced right now, we should make sure we do it to everyone and not just new profiles to make sure things are fair. c:

Eh I'm sure my char's, and possibly someone else's, abilities still do have some wrinkles that need smoothing out, I'm sure we all can (respectably) point them out if needed. I'm also always open to suggestions and criticisms about my choices!

Anyway, yah, everyone is new to their powers and know diddlysquat about how to use them, for now (which is also a reason I believe the "Untrained" weakness seem pretty redundant), I'm sure everyone can agree to that.

@Witch Cat Exactly! Daniyal is one of the characters that I like quite a bit, too, so I didn't want you to think I was bashing him or anything. :>

Hey my dudes, I was in the original thread before it died. Are you still taking characters, and if so may I join?

Hey my dudes, I was in the original thread before it died. Are you still taking characters, and if so may I join?

Oh my god, I remember you! Yes, definitely, please join Atlas.

@AdobeFlash I believe we are. And now would be a great time to post a CS since we're still on day one IC. c:

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Oh my god, I remember you! Yes, definitely, please join Atlas.

It seems I have been...exposed. I have to assume my disguise!

In all seriousness, thanks for the invite Compressed Carbon. I'm thinking I will join

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Just got an post up, figured someone ought'a address Drei's beat-up face. :p

I missed a good bit while I was in the shower. I shall look at that post. Also, as far as the super toxic stuff, yeah he can't really do too much yet. He can currently only create chemical substances with up to three different elements comprising it. Many toxins have over three, and are thusly not able to be produced. And he would die from making the lethal dose for one person anyway, nevermind forty.

Obviously, everyone is still new to their powers. I'm only making an issue out of stuff in the first place because we don't know how far this story will go. It's possible that they might never reach their OP states or that they will before the canonical "ending" of the story.
I just want everyone to be on the same page for everything, and it's still not totally clear to me just how much of the original guidelines we're going to be following and which ones we're throwing out or bending.

The problem with a tranq would just be getting it through the thick ass scales. You'd either need to do that somehow, which I feel like would fuck the tranq dart up a good bit, or find a nice fleshy spot, but then you'd need to deal with getting in a good range to do so, risking life and limb dealing with a monster.

It could be ingested...

@Daisedconfused
The reason I was considering Henry as close to the originally banned powers is because his strength could bring down a building really easily. He could basically shoulder-check a support piece and bring down the eiffel tower if he wanted to, with 3000 pounds of running force and a further 4000 of muscle force. And he could probably survive doing it, too. Honestly, that in and of itself is fine, but I do think it should be built up to, and the fact that his drawbacks are most likely going to make him MORE dangerous rather than less, as well as the lack of "weaknesses" (I consider the things listed as drawbacks, not weaknesses. To me, a weakness is a way to overcome the power, not a side effect.) makes me think he could use a bit more rebalancing. Sorry if that came across as rude, I didn't intend it to.

@DarkwolfX37 You're not coming across as rude, why would you be? :B

I think we essentially agree. We both think Henry should grow into it and we both want to know which guidelines are and aren't being followed, which I'm sure @SecretlyDiscord will clear up when they get a chance.

Also, I agree that his Weaknesses are pretty mild.

Okay, hi, I missed alot. >////<

As far as guidelines go, I would like to stay as close to the original as possible. Whether or not the characters get to their OP stages (which I'm sure some will) depends upon where we want the ending to go. If we want to have the kids become the government's big helpers, then they might not reach their OP stages just because of the fact that the government would still want to control them. If we want to do some sort of "thwart the system" kind of ending (which are always fun) then the characters may just have to become OP (Dumbledore's Army style).

@AdobeFlash Yessir! Welcome, child. mmmyes.

@SecretlyDiscord

One quick question, and it is probably a silly one. Do we just post our character submissions here, or should we post it in the drop-down format like how all the other information of the original post is listed?