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@vietmyke Just gonna break this down into numbers for ease.

1. That's just a failure on my part. I meant for them to have always been engineers not pilots, so I'll make sure that is more clear.

2. I was hoping Izic might be a sort of sympathized deserter. He seems the type to actually rebel and hate the UEE. The Coalition are his kind of people working class down to earth. Alice meanwhile is high military ranking and it is bizarre to be leaving the UEE. Honestly though I can work this story however we need.

3. Izic tried to be a whistleblower first. He went to his commander and told him that the scientists didn't want to continue developing these sorts of weapons. The commander saw it as treason/rebellion, so he got military back up (the security staff was also split by the weapons.) With the fact that his own military came in and wiped out any resistance/possible rebellion. As for telling normal people he didn't think he'd be able to get anything done that way. He didn't have any power or push in that world, especially not against the UEE military.

4. I suppose that is true. I definitely don't want him to be some sort of hot shot ace, but if he needs more skill I can balance that in. I want his strength to be that while he isn't some prodigy his personal experience with MAS lets him do things other pilots can't.

I'm thinking now that I could kind of rework that into him being very quick to understand and analyze MAS, so that he can fight better. He picks up how the pilot is working. He notices specific strengths and weaknesses of individual MAS. He isn't the best pilot, but he can take advantage of other MAS better than others. If he's on the front line he can engage enemy MAS find their weak points develop a diagnostic and give that to the better pilots.

It's very much why his MAS is ALL defense. he's not supposed to be the direct threat.

5. The thought was that he'd use it with the robotic arm, but I can ton that all back. Figured I'd go bigger for the sci-fi nature of the setting. So long as it keeps the blunderbuss feature I'm happy.

6. I wasn't certain if I wanted to go with that or not. Medium had enough weight for all the defense items available, so I went with that. If I can put on more defense with a heavy I'd happily jump up to it. The point of Atlas is to be massive front line MAS. It is a pain to deal with even while it won't deal that much damage. I had the image of Atlases running into missiles and heavy fire to cover allied units. First and foremost it is there to take abuse so everyone else can work better. Something I think fit the engineer idea.
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@jasonwolf I'm no where near organized enough to deliver things in numbers so I'm just gonna make comments as the pop out to me.

I'm thinking now that I could kind of rework that into him being very quick to understand and analyze MAS, so that he can fight better. He picks up how the pilot is working. He notices specific strengths and weaknesses of individual MAS. He isn't the best pilot, but he can take advantage of other MAS better than others. If he's on the front line he can engage enemy MAS find their weak points develop a diagnostic and give that to the better pilots.


This, I like this. This is extremely solid. As far as his MAS goes, all defense is nice, but if he has no teeth, no one's going to bother engaging him- Why would I bother shooting at the metal brick that can't shoot back at me? I can't hurt it, but it sure as hell can't hurt me, move on. It can be a nuisance, sure, what with it running in front of oncoming fire, but its just a nuisance. Enemies can be numerous enough to just weave past or completely ignore him. With some extra weight and power abilities, you could take a page from the UEE sparrow and use a Shield and weapon combo- like the Sparrow's shield mounted missiles. You could give him a second shield, and he can mount them on his forearms like a oversized blunt, blade and use them to smash enemies within melee range.

Honestly, a support/engineer character like Izic would go great with a machine based around electronic warfare and disruption rather than tanking, keeping in the background to relay information to his comrades, and taking opportunities to strike as they come. Its also pretty hard to tank with MAS warfare, all things considered. Even as heavily armored as the Atlas currently is, a few well placed plasma shots would punch through his shields, melt his armor, and slag his cockpit- Granted, its better than being destroyed by one or two plasma shots.

As far as his background goes, I understand that's what you're going for, but as it is, we're looking at 40% former UEE pilots in a Coalition black ops team. We could sort of spin it as he's the only real former UEE pilot, as Alice has spent a stint in the FEZ as a rogue, but you can sort of understand where I'm coming from yes?

@EnterTheHero - If your character is the 'Rookie' of the team, he's likely not seen enough time to field test prototypes- and the Fafnir's have been in mass production for several months now so most of the original field testing groups have already completed their analysis and the Fafnir's are seeing limited production for specialty units (IE the Tigres Team). This is ironically a conversation I'm currently having via pm with another player, but being a prototype pilot is not nearly as exciting as it sounds. As a prototype pilot you get to sit in the cockpit in a lab and do whatever the techs tell you to do- IE, walk, run, jump, move your arms, etc. After which, the machine would then be taken to a field test combat unit to test its potential. Its not nearly as exciting as it all sounds. If you want to be the rookie, I'd like you to stick with the standard HMT Fafnir, though you can make the slight edits here and there, like the weapon loadouts- (you can make up a few 'standard' weapons, if you'd like, though EKP weapons are probably not standard), and then we can work the rookie up to a new machine later on in the game.
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This is ironically a conversation I'm currently having via pm with another player,


Hey again guys :p

And on that note I'm glad we found a way to make it work at least XD
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@vietmyke That's what I assumed. All right, then- slightly-edited HMT it is.
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@vietmyke Just while prototypes are being talked about i was thinking if we last long enough Izic might have a secret project in the works (not necessarily secret, but you get the point).

I mean he is an engineer the idea that he has a prototype MAS hes worked on with the coalition makes sense right?

I didnt want to start with that kind of thing though.

As for the atlas i guess ill bulk him up and turn him into forward comand in a sense. Walking command post from which Izic can provide support and guidance or aid. I would like one special thing for it though. Drones. Little drones so Izic can see the front line as he wishes.

It lets him have that observe learn destroy skill, but remaim in the back as the support and ill figure out offense soon.
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Drones. Little drones so Izic can see the front line as he wishes.


Could always just have him be able to tap into friendly MAS and see from their point of view as well.
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@Aristo No real criticisms for Alice, seeing as she's been used in another RP before, She'd of course have to deal with suspicion from other members of the team because of her background but that's to be expected. Just need to make the minor background/lore tweaks we discussed earlier and she should be good to go. Same goes with her Gladiator.


You got it!
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@vietmyke
Added a few lines here and there to reflect the circumstances we mentioned previously.



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Are we still on?
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Are we still on?


I'm planning on just sitting around until we get word, not like I have much else to do.
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I would like to, but it appears that we're still missing numbers
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Still working on things- trying to get RL stuff done before doing much RP stuff.
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@vietmyke
Hey I'm just testing the room. Is this RP still on, and if so, are there any open slots?
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@vietmyke
Hey I'm just testing the room. Is this RP still on, and if so, are there any open slots?


The only reason it hasn't started yet is because it's waiting on a few more players. Just hang around and keep an eye out for @Vietmyke to respond haha
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@LeeRoy indeed, we are still searching for characters.
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