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I don't have anything to add or have concerns with. Like I said, this feels like a 999 to me and I very much love to role play in one.
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@Shoryu Magami

Well, I must have opinionated more about most of the themes you asked than most, as far as this thread go, still here goes my last round of replies.

- I think that, if possible, a way to keep playing past any deaths (I can't even imagine how it would work), would be for the best.

- I would prefer for the murderer to choose their own victims, based on the IC events, if possible. An OOC vote system influencing the IC outcome feels contrived for me.

- I'm indifferent for tags, so I'll leave it the public decision.

- And I think I've made enough comments on the CSs, there's few I can think of adding at this time.

I guess this is all I had to say for the time being. If anything else comes up I'll be sure to add it.
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@Bishop
Right, so the 'Slice of Life' tag probably is insinuating roughly what I was thinking then -- subsequently being inappropriate for this role-play. Even though there's going to be 'normal' human interaction in the role-play, especially since it's focused on realism and a heavily real world setting outside of some supernatural elements, it's not the focus since there's more of an actual plot going on.

I'll be going with my initial decision then, and not using the tag.

@Eidolen
Since the 'Fantasy' tag is - as I said in previous posts - too specific in the sense that it seems to pertain more to fantasy setting role-plays, instead of contemporary fantasy settings which often are set in realistic worlds that simply have supernatural elements, I'll likely not use that tag -- it's pretty badly defined. Honestly, a lot of the tags on this site are misleading and it feels like we're missing several that should've been included, as we discussed earlier. The input from various people concerning the 'Fantasy' tag has sort of balanced out to the point where I'll go with my initial opinion.

Once you're back around on Skype, we'll go into more of that discussion we were having.

@MayLien
Cheers for letting people know you're still in, if only so other people know (considering we're talking about it off the site).

@KoL
I've got plans for how I can keep people in the role-play after death, though I won't spoil it and - as stated previously - it'll have certain limitations or specifics. I'll elaborate on it all in more depth once the time comes and I've been able to finish sorting all my details for the role-play. I probably won't reveal its nature until there's actually a death either. That's all assuming I go with it, but it does seem as though the consensus is people would prefer to be able to have the option of continuing.

Regarding the voting/elimination/murder system, it seems that there's some misconception about how it'll work, so I'm going to explain it more now, for the sake of everyone. A lot of the people involved in this thread already know some of the details for how this works, but for those who don't - and therefore might have trouble giving opinions - I'll make it clearer now.

Elimination Rules (Elaboration)

The primary purpose for the elimination system is - as Eidolen suggested earlier - in order to create incentive for the group to uncover all of the true mysteries before everyone gets killed.

I'll separate the details about the system (a.k.a. the topics of discussion) into points again:

  • The OOC was never intended to have any role whatsoever in determining who would die from the voting system, so don't worry about that particular concern. It'd all be entirely done through the IC. Basically, at certain intervals in the role-play, the characters will all gather together and discuss who they believe the murderer to be. It's done in a similar manner to a jury deciding if they think a defendant is guilty or innocent -- they're deciding who they think is guilty, and this person will be eliminated. This is all done IC, and the OOC has nothing to do with it; in fact, as I stated in an earlier part of this thread (and in the rules), I'm outright forbidding people discussing who they think the murderer is in the OOC, to ensure all knowledge and evidence is uncovered IC.

  • Under the assumption that the voting system is used, at certain points in the plot the group will - as just explained - gather and vote on who they think the murderer could be. Eidolen mentioned one possible idea where if someone accuses (actually accusing or placing a vote is different from just discussing people you think the murderer could be -- eventually people have to 'point the finger' and settle on someone) another person and accuses the wrong person then the accuser will die. This creates a problem though, which we're still discussing -- the person who primary gets accused of being the murderer needs to die, in order to prevent someone who is still alive from obviously not being the murderer. With this in mind, the current idea for voting is that everyone votes and the person who gets the majority vote will die (for a plot reason I'm not spoiling, not because the murderer kills them). This is the current voting system, but because both it and people even dying aren't required for this role-play to function (outside of people being eliminated creating more incentive and, in my opinion, making the psychological aspects and drama of this role-play a lot better), I'm open to discussion about how/if we use it -- that's the whole purpose of this thread now. I'm actually okay with not using this system (whole reason we're discussing it) if people don't want to, but I was under the impression a few people who expressed interest did so partly because of this system.

  • Since I get the feeling I'm not being clear about this, I want to make a point that if the voting system is used, the IC narrative that leads up to you all casting your vote won't be random or just based on pointing the finger at people for no reason. You'll be deducing evidence, both that you can find from the murder scene and also from analysing each other's behaviour, alibis, personalities, and any other information you uncover about each other. This will include the NPCs taking advantage of secret information they know about you in order to create red herrings and mislead you, by revealing incentives or motivations, et cetera.

  • If the murderer is able to actively kill players during the game, then - yes - the decisions of who/how/when/why will be largely up to them and I'll be collaborating it with them in order to make sure I understand the details before I post their murder into the role-play. In the instance that this happens, certain factors will be taken into account -- for example, they'll need to be able to write a method of killing people that actually makes sense given what the target is capable of IC, which could complicate things depending on who the murderer is. Also, unless we have a lot of players the role-play could end too quickly if both voting and murderer are eliminating players. This is the primary reason why I needed to know how many players roughly would be joining us -- settling on the best system could only be done if I knew our numbers to an extent, and that's pretty much why I posted an interest check despite knowing I likely had enough interest already.

Edit: It's been brought to my attention that the word 'voting' might have been misleading people, though I'm confident those familiar with Danganronpa (and the murderer game thread, technically) knew what I meant. If you'd like to then think of it more as the characters having to debate/deduce who they believe the murderer is and then 'vote' (a.k.a. outright point the finger). This is - like I said - not done in the OOC in any regard at all.
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I think I'll have to decline from taking part on his RP. My friends and I over here are planning some things (mostly to do with the revival of an old RP I'll have to put a lot of work in) and I might not, or better, will not have the time to dedicate tho this RP.

This RP is a very good idea, though. You know I appreciate it, but I simply don't want to pass on the other people I'm acquainted with for more time. See you in a future opportunity.
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@KoL
It's a shame to hear that (I had a feeling though), but alright.

I'm glad you at least told me one way or another -- I think @Crumbs (mostly due to her own GM work) already did as well, and @shylarah.

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Important update.

As of the most recent edit to the opening post, both the 'Public CS' and the 'Private CS' (both templates and also tutorials) are completed and ready for you to put them to use. Take a look whenever you've got some time. I'd prefer if people not post up completed character sheets in this thread, since I'm hoping to have this moved over to the official thread very soon, but go ahead and work on them so they can be posted as soon as the transfer happens.

At this time, I'd appreciate it if people tell me if they're definitely not getting involved. The people who do this won't be getting a notification when I switch this to the official thread, nor will those who've made no attempt to communicate at all. If you're still not sure then it's okay, but I really do want to be told if people know for certain that they aren't in.

There's also some important discussion points in my last post that I'd like people to give input about involving the elimination system for this role-play. At this point, I've settled on using a method to allow characters to remain in play even if they die (I probably won't be revealing how this works until it happens -- part of it does potentially include an interesting little 'Easter Egg' though), so the only thing needing discussion is the elimination system. The official thread will be created once that's settled on.
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@Shoryu Magami I'm still lurking around, but my participation will depend on how busy I am this holiday and the term time coming soon, but I'll be sure to let you know when I know whether I'll be able to take part or not ^^
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@Aewin
Cheers for letting me know what's going on. Knowing you're still considering it helps me know that I'm not bothering you with the [ @Mention ] pokes. Also, I generally appreciate people keeping me up to date like this, and not jumping into this thing if they're going to bail out not too long after -- I've seen too many role-plays dying due to that, especially on this site it seems.

Given how you just said you've been lurking, I'm not entirely sure how much of the thread you're up to date on, but do you have any opinions or preferences regarding the discussion points for the elimination rules (I've brought them up recently)? Just trying to gauge whether or not people's lack of responses to this are due to them not having time to read/reply, or simply being fine with whatever system gets used and not having a preference. You were one of the people who came into this partly due to Danganronpa, so I figured it was relevant to you.

I took the time (a few days ago) to see your most recent role-play history on the site, and I noticed you've got some rather decent length IC posts. Just be aware that - even though we're under the Advanced' tag - I'm not obligating people to post that much in this role-play. Quality over quantity will be the priority here, though obviously some level of quantity is needed to achieve quality, but I'm using the 'Advanced' tag more because I want good characterization and a mature plot, not because I'm forcing people to write a novel. Just letting you know in case your concerns about having time to participate have anything to do with post length.

Either way, I'll be waiting for the final verdict.
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Given how you just said you've been lurking, I'm not entirely sure how much of the thread you're up to date on, but do you have any opinions or preferences regarding the discussion points for the elimination rules (I've brought them up recently)? Just trying to gauge whether or not people's lack of responses to this are due to them not having time to read/reply, or simply being fine with whatever system gets used and not having a preference. You were one of the people who came into this partly due to Danganronpa, so I figured it was relevant to you.

I've tried to keep myself as updated as possible and scrolled through any new posts if available. I'm pretty okay with all the suggestions thus far, and I don't think I have anything I can add that would be useful in this case seeing as I haven't really participated in a roleplay like this before. I'm not too fussed with tags, so I don't really have much of an opinion on that.

I took the time (a few days ago) to see your most recent role-play history on the site, and I noticed you've got some rather decent length IC posts. Just be aware that - even though we're under the Advanced' tag - I'm not obligating people to post that much in this role-play. Quality over quantity will be the priority here, though obviously some level of quantity is needed to achieve quality, but I'm using the 'Advanced' tag more because I want good characterization and a mature plot, not because I'm forcing people to write a novel. Just letting you know in case your concerns about having time to participate have anything to do with post length.

Either way, I'll be waiting for the final verdict.

I hope my quality of writing didn't bother you in any way, English isn't my first language so I'm not the best when it comes to writing quality posts. Regarding post lengths, I have no issue with writing anywhere between a paragraph to 4+, depending on what I have to work with and how much is necessary. I will admit that I'm guilty for rambling if I feel that I need to have a longer post, but the post length isn't much of an issue as long as I have something to react or respond to.
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@Shoryu Magami Sorry for the double post, I forgot to tag you in my last one!
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I won't be able to involved with this rp. Just letting you know so you don't have to tag me in the next update.

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I'm still interested and I've mentioned that in private, I will go over all of the updates and information later tonight and give my feedback on that.
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I'll be out most of the day, but will check back later.

@Aewin
When I say quality of posts over quantity, I'm not saying there's anything actually wrong with long posts -- honestly, you can't achieve a certain level of quality without a certain quantity. I was mostly just letting you know that you don't need to worry about post length, if that's one of the things you're unsure of with having enough time to participate. While I didn't read your IC posts extensively, I honestly didn't have any immediate problem I noticed at first glance and you actually didn't give any particular indication that English isn't your first language, so there's no problem.

I will admit that I'm guilty for rambling if I feel that I need to have a longer post, but the post length isn't much of an issue as long as I have something to react or respond to.
Aewin

This is one of the reasons why I mention that people need to be detailed in their role-play posts -- their role-play partners will have a limited amount to react or respond to if they don't give them something decent to work with. When I talk about post quality, it has less to do with grammar/punctuation (though I do still expect people to be coherent) or post length, and more to do with the actual content itself. Not posting the character in an OOC manner is obviously an example, but it also involves things like being detailed enough for the other writers to know what's going on and how their character would react. If you're concerned about rambling then don't be, since chances are those additional character thoughts or actions will give other people more to work with. Overall, I think you'll be fine.

Also, don't worry about the double post, since I do it myself. I keep track of the entire thread so I would've noticed your response anyway, but I don't have a problem with you double posting like that.

@UnknownScarlet4
Since you did mention you'd 'think about' it, I honestly didn't assume one way or another if you planned on joining us. It's more annoying when people actually say they'll be involved and put time into it, then just quit. I appreciate you letting me know regardless, since that's almost everyone accounted for now.

@CrazyShadowy
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Super late to the party, but would it be worth my time to read through all the posts because I am interested, or is it passed that point?@Shoryu Magami
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If you're interested, then you're more than welcome.

The opening post and the post I've made recently including 'Elimination Rules (Elaboration)' would be the only areas of particular note to comment on.
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Well, I am in, ready for orders m'am or sir
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@Ellion
That would be 'sir', and good to know. I'm hoping to move things forward to the official thread in the next day or so -- just waiting for some final input from a couple people regarding the elimination system. The CS formats are completed though, so people are free to get a start on those so they can be sent once the official thread's up.
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Ghh, creating the character is 99℅ of the work for me. Know that If I quit, I was overcomed by the CS.
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As per usual I don't really have any complaints with the update. I'll be working on a completeish CS and get that to you when I can.
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Working on a CS!
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@Shoryu Magami

Hello there! @Aewin decided to drag point me towards this thread and it looks pretty interesting. Do you have room for one more? :)

I haven't read the entire thread yet. Is there anything outside of the first post I should know?
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