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GERO! I HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT LIFE ALTERING, WORLD ENDING, POSSIBLY PANCAKE DESTROYING QUESTION TO ASK YOU!!!!!
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@Jinkai Yuko

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Accepted. I am however also for to imply that chuunins have a much slower learning rate than Genin. And main or not, I will be needed to say that if you freeze a team or such with your character, I'll be taken away your main. I don't want to sound hostile or negative, but each character should be of equal importance. In my opinion.

Hope that it makes a bit of sense. ^^;
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Is it only genin spots available, or are there other positions as well. I have a second genin to submit, along with a jounin or anbu, depending on what you'd prefer, if at all.
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Over the character Kisheto :

1.) He is extremely tanky in that he can take a lot of damage before he is knocked out or incapacitated. In other words, pain isn't a concern for him. He can take hard hits and scratch 'em off with sheer willpower.

My review : A genin that is tanky? I think that combined with the other traits its too much for a genin. They just came out of the Academy and with the other traits its too much for a genin. I prefer that its removed and only trained later.

2.) Traits and KG

Lots of chakra? That is a no from me. It's not a real definiton of how much chakra he has. I'm not eager to give somebody a big amount of chakra at the rank of genin. Even with poor chakra control, it is too powerful for that rank. The KG is also more or less a way to obtain chakra levels that look dangerously close to how a Jinchuriki gets a larger chakra reserve (with bonding the beast over time). So I say no against the KG. Though you have explained it well, I am not really seeing the need for a character to have such a load of chakra reserve. I want that to be toned down.

3.) Though clone techniques are allowed to everybody, they are dangerous. You cut down your chakra levels and clones are usually easy to defeat (to keep it not from a person spamming a whole army of strong characters in a fight). Even so far Jinchuriki's are careful of using shadow clones (as are high ranked characters) as the chakra gets cut down. Something you want to avoid in many battles, as the reserve of chakra can mean you can or can't do the technique that requires the amount of chakra. I would highly advise to take another road before you end up killing yourself. (Will happen if he will like say make a whole group of shadow clones and even attempt to that with poor chakra control)

That is my review for now.
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IVIasterJay said
Is it only genin spots available, or are there other positions as well. I have a second genin to submit, along with a jounin or anbu, depending on what you'd prefer, if at all.


If you see an open Jounin spot or such, you can apply for it. Kage assistant and Jounin commander need to be selected or having the approval of the person leading the village. :)
You can also make a chuunin, but I would advise against it for now.

Besides,

If somebody needs a CS to be reviewed, please pm the GM's about it!
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@SageOver the character :1.) He is extremely tanky in that he can take a lot of damage before he is knocked out or incapacitated. In other words, pain isn't a concern for him. He can take hard hits and scratch 'em off with sheer willpower.My review : A genin that is tanky? I think that combined with the other traits its too much for a genin. They just came out of the Academy and with the other traits its too much for a genin. I prefer that its removed and only trained later.2.) Traits and KGLots of chakra? That is a no from me. It's not a real definiton of how much chakra he has. I'm not eager to give somebody a big amount of chakra at the rank of genin. Even with poor chakra control, it is too powerful for that rank. The KG is also more or less a way to obtain chakra levels that look dangerously close to how a Jinchuriki gets a larger chakra reserve (with bonding the beast over time). So I say no against the KG. Though you have explained it well, I am not really seeing the need for a character to have such a load of chakra reserve. I want that to be toned down.3.) Though clone techniques are allowed to everybody, they are dangerous. You cut down your chakra levels and clones are usually easy to defeat (to keep it not from a person spamming a whole army of strong characters in a fight). Even so far Jinchuriki's are careful of using shadow clones (as are high ranked characters) as the chakra gets cut down. Something you want to avoid in many battles, as the reserve of chakra can mean you can or can't do the technique that requires the amount of chakra. I would highly advise to take another road before you end up killing yourself. (Will happen if he will like say make a whole group of shadow clones and even attempt to that with poor chakra control)That is my review for now.


By tanky, I merely meant he wouldn't shy away from pain and is more likely to charge than speculate whether he can handle te damage or not. The attack would damage him as much as it would anyone else, but his reaction to the damage is what makes him "tanky", it's just pain tolerance.

For the chakra increase, that does not stack with the KG. It is caused by the KG which gives him chakra outside of his body. And the "high chakra" thing is relative. It doesn't mean I have more chakra than a Jounin (although your chakra levels can't really be increased by training...), it means for a genin he has more chakra than average. If that's not allowed, you're stating that all genin have exactly the same amount of chakra.

For the clones, there was no change from the original character sheet from the first Generation. Actually, Kisheto was accepted in the first Generation because I explained that he doesn't have a good control over his chakra, so he uses clones to compensate by limiting his ninjutsu usage to clone Taijutsu and combos. Don't think of his chakra as "he can use more Jutsu in battle", but more like "he can use a stronger technique as a base technique", such as shadow clones. Because shadow clones is extremely draining, if he used it to the extent in which any genin used their "signature" or "fundamental" Jutsu, it would be even since their techniques would probably be proportional to their chakra levels.
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1.) By tanky, I merely meant he wouldn't shy away from pain and is more likely to charge than speculate whether he can handle te damage or not. The attack would damage him as much as it would anyone else, but his reaction to the damage is what makes him "tanky", it's just pain tolerance.

Mind changing it then to a high pain tolerance? That would clear it more out.

2.) For the chakra increase, that does not stack with the KG. It is caused by the KG which gives him chakra outside of his body. And the "high chakra" thing is relative. It doesn't mean I have more chakra than a Jounin (although your chakra levels can't really be increased by training...), it means for a genin he has more chakra than average. If that's not allowed, you're stating that all genin have exactly the same amount of chakra.

I am still against the added chakra. Even the way as : a LOT of chakra + chakra from the outside due the KG? That is still too high in my opinion. As for chakra levels, there are ways to increase it. If one has a hidden chakra potential, it means they can open it. We have seen this before, but it requires often the approval of several GM's. I am not stating that its not allowed to have more chakra than the average, but simply pointing that I am against the KG as well the way how the chakra reserves are put. A high chakra reserve is totally different than 'a LOT'. For most times we use a system where we pick words like 'Good', 'High', 'Very High' and so forth. It makes it less sounding OP, if that makes some sense.

Also, a custom KG that adds more than two features often is getting on my nerves. I would rather want it to be toned down.

3. For the clones, there was no change from the original character sheet from the first Generation. Actually, Kisheto was accepted in the first Generation because I explained that he doesn't have a good control over his chakra, so he uses clones to compensate by limiting his ninjutsu usage to clone Taijutsu and combos. Don't think of his chakra as "he can use more Jutsu in battle", but more like "he can use a stronger technique as a base technique", such as shadow clones. Because shadow clones is extremely draining, if he used it to the extent in which any genin used their "signature" or "fundamental" Jutsu, it would be even since their techniques would probably be proportional to their chakra levels.

This is still the same Generation, but when the crash came of RPG in Decemeber, we became a bit stricter. Characters from before who were reposted went to a review again and got some changes. I can understand that you weren't aware of that, but we want to make it more or less balanced than it already was. So please take that in consideration as we all from before went through a harsher review.
As for the shadow clones, I find it a bit weird that he has no good chakra control but still can create a lot of clones. Its more likely you need some good chakra control to create and maintain them than the other way around. I get it that the influence is from Naruto, the character, but I do want to make clear that Naruto, the character, was also a Jinchuriki that got Sage mode and eventually got power ups that weren't really logical in my opinion. But that is my opinion on the character.

I still say no again creating a lot of shadow clones. Creating a max of 5~ 10 is something I would accept, but more is impossible. Both for a genin as for somebody that doesn't have the chakra control and the chakra levels to back it up.
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By tanky, I merely meant he wouldn't shy away from pain and is more likely to charge than speculate whether he can handle te damage or not. The attack would damage him as much as it would anyone else, but his reaction to the damage is what makes him "tanky", it's just pain tolerance.For the chakra increase, that does not stack with the KG. It is caused by the KG which gives him chakra outside of his body. And the "high chakra" thing is relative. It doesn't mean I have more chakra than a Jounin (although your chakra levels can't really be increased by training...), it means for a genin he has more chakra than average. If that's not allowed, you're stating that all genin have exactly the same amount of chakra. For the clones, there was no change from the original character sheet from the first Generation. Actually, Kisheto was accepted in the first Generation because I explained that he doesn't have a good control over his chakra, so he uses clones to compensate by limiting his ninjutsu usage to clone Taijutsu and combos. Don't think of his chakra as "he can use more Jutsu in battle", but more like "he can use a stronger technique as a base technique", such as shadow clones. Because shadow clones is extremely draining, if he used it to the extent in which any genin used their "signature" or "fundamental" Jutsu, it would be even since their techniques would probably be proportional to their chakra levels.


As for your response for the Tank thing: Change it's description, so it will reflect what you just explained properly, otherwise people will become confused.

Chakra - I have a few notes for that. First of all, Chakra Control belongs in skills, not Special traits, seeing it can be trained. As for his Chakra levels, you need to change it to a proper description of his chakra levels. Big Chakra levels, Above average Genin's Chakra levels, something of that sort.

A note I have on both the Chakra levels and the Kekkei Genkai - I am sorry to say that because he is a Genin, I will refuse to accept that he will have both big chakra levels, even if they are not as high as it might appear to be, and let him have a Kekkei Genkai which allows him to gain chakra from outside forces. So, in order for me to consider allowing it, I must request you will either change the Kekkei Genkai so that the control over it (The amount of chakra the user recieves from outside forces) will be decreased and then enable him to recieve more as time passes and he trains it, or that you will lower the regular amounts of chakra he has.

Kekkei Genkai - Except for the point I have made above, I find the Kekkei Genkai is a bit confusing for me. The user recieves chakra from outside forces, known as spirits? While I am fully aware there are jutsus that can allow the transfer of souls (Spirit Transformation Technique) and then recieve chakra through those spirits, there are a few things which seem very odd to me about Kisheto's Kekkei Genkai (And please feel free to explain youself on each note I give here):

1) How are they able to reciecve chakra from the outer plane and from spirits, let alone make contact with them? That alone seems odd to me.
2) How is it capable of increasing someone's Chakra Control when that is a skill? (Unless the spirit gives him extra knowledge every time he uses it.)

(Please feel free PM'ing me and fully explain to me the KG, so I will be able to completely understand it. Back at the time I was not a full GM and only a IC GM, so excuse me if I did not look over things the way I do now.)

I also would like that your explanation with Shadow Clone Jutsu doesn't make too much sense. How did he "Accidenly" learn a jutsu, and Shadow Clone Jutsu allows people to be capable of learning new jutsus with more ease, not make it harder for them. It also does not make a lot of sense he will be capable of creating many more clones than the average shinobi, due to one single fact you wrote in his CS, which is his poor Chakra Control.

One last thing I would wish to note is his Custom Jutsu, the Void Field. I will have to refuse accepting that due to the fact it is not C ranked as you claimed, but B ranked in my eyes, if not slightly higher. An invisible to the naked eye shield which can completely block Kunai through the use of outer body chakra alone is something that is a lot more powerful than you might think, and I could easily see it become a shield to make jutsus weaker due to the fact its Pure Chakra. I understand he needs to focus at certain points to be capable of completely blocking the kunai, but that would also indicate that his chakra control is a lot better than you say.

At the end, you may want to change his Chakra control, and please do explain his KG to me properly, through PM.
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Well I'll just post it here so I can get multiple opinions.

First, I edited my CS so you guys wouldn't get confused. What did I edit?


  • Reworded tankiness

  • Reworded Chakra Control deficiency

  • Took out the third effect of his bloodline ability because it was "getting on [Lesli's] nerves"

  • Took out like two abilities and traits



Anyway, let me clear this shit up. First, when I said poor chakra control I failed to be clear. I meant the whole system that Kakashi explained when training Naruto, where there was two steps to adding elements to jutsu (It was something along the lines of chakra nature formation and chakra something else formation). He explained to Naruto that you must complete both steps to in order to make a wind rasengan. What I meant to say was not that KIsheto couldn't control chakra, but he had a really poor grasp of the chakra nature molding step, as it was seen in the first Generation RP, where he tried to make a new jutsu with Hiron (I think, Gero's HOn character or w/e) but couldn't because he was bad at adding elements to shape. Shadow Clones don't require elements, and therefore only take the other side of the chakra nature whatever, and thus he can pull that off.

Furthermore, I redefined how he has higher than normal chakra. It is primarily due to his bloodline - their ability IS having a lot of chakra. It's not like I'm superloaded on chakra + I have the sharingan + I have a sword that I can sue with magical abilities. It's his KG. Thats it (for now).

OH and I don't know if you missed this... but I stated that he doesn't have his bloodline ability unlocked yet... He may unlock it by second post, maybe by chunin, maybe NEVER. When I first made Kisheto, I was expecting to wait for a good moment and then ask Gero (who was my sensei) if I could unlock it and gain the benefits at that point. I'm not starting off with it... >.>

But to explain it, the spirit isn't literally a soul from another realm. That's just the name they have for it. Yashime genes allow for them to harness this third tier energy within their chakra and they call it spirit. It's just a really mysterious energy! Like Element Zero from mass effect! The fact that it "has a life of its own" is just due to natural side effects of using it - the user can go crazy and destroy him/herself. But essentially, Spirit's properties allow for really cool ninjutsu and for amplifying ninjutsu (via increasing the chakra to the point in which its floating around the user's body). You see? That IS his bloodline ability. His bloodline ability isn't "Oh yeah.. I get a lot of chakra, oh and I can do super cool ninjutsu, and I get cool eyes and I get armor". It's "I get chakra, and because of my genes, this excess chakra allows for cool jutsu."

And you wish for me to explain why they can access this mysterious element? Well... why do Uchiha have the ability to activate the Sharingan and not the UZumaki? Why can the Nara control their shadow but not the Akimichi? Like, for real?

I hope you understand that this isn't a demon situation. No outside sentient being is entering his body to give him power. Maybe I should change the name of the energy source from "spirit" to something else that's easier to understand :/
Oh and hold up a second.

I must request you will either change the Kekkei Genkai so that the control over it (The amount of chakra the user recieves from outside forces) will be decreased and then enable him to recieve more as time passes and he trains it, or that you will lower the regular amounts of chakra he has.


You think the ability's listed in this CS are gonna be executed in full burst in his first fight? You think he's gonna walk up to his first fight and use Void Field at full power, activate Yashingan, summon 200 clones that all use Fireball jutsu? My first CS was twice as "OP" as this, but the maximum my character did (while it lasted) was make 20 clones, charging his sensei, poofing all his clones, and passing out. I know how to control my character, but if you want me to make a cs based on EXACTLY what he has full control on the second I start rp'ing, then all I have is a history and his name. I want to RP him learning these skills and training - as I did in my first Kisheto. I wrote that he had fireball jutsu, but he couldn't even use it until he trained with Hiron in IC.

And honestly, Shadow Clone Jutsu is just my favorite thing due to its versatility. Why can he use that but not other jutsu? Because he's spent all his time using it that he hasn't spent any time doing anything else - the reason is a time factor, not an ability factor (when it comes to why Shadow Clone jutsu is his main). Even IFI have poor control of chakra, if I practice one jutsu for 10 years versus someone who practices 100 jutsu for 10 years.... like c'mon now.

And Void Field? If blocking a Kunai is OP, then... jeeze xD
In all honesty, if a kunai was thrown at Kisheto, I would probably just take it. Just a little knife, yo. And like I said, I didn't mean his ability to just control chakra - I meant his ability to mold a specific element. And not only that, but its only "invisible" to people who can't see or sense chakra. It's strength doesn't come from invisibility - it's from the no-hands ability. And yes, that's exactly what it's to be... a jutsu to be a defense mechanism. But its not like if a jutsu hits his shield, he just brushes it off. That chakra that blocks it dissappears is GONE. In other words, constant vulnerability to direct chakra damage.
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Sage,

I am not a GM, but would like to ask to approach it a bit differently. I think that its better take it to the PM's when a GM ask for it.
Not to mention that you're sounding like a passive aggressive person with such a reply. Please consider this from one to another member : Please take in consideration that the GM's want to balance the characters and game. For that reason they have to say no at times.

Hope you've something with that advise.

Edit :

I went over the CS and reviews.

I think the problem, seeing it from an objective view is that you didn't formulated things properly. You just told them about several factors that weren't written down as you just did. Without the needless passive-aggressive attitude.
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Oh, haha sorry yo I just got a skype telling me I sounded snarky, I didn't mean to be like that. Reading over it, it does sound a bit sarcastic sounding, didn't mean for that :( It's all love for me, don't gotta worry about that kinda stuff
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Meanwhile I'm just sitting here behind my desk...eating crisps.
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Do you need help with posting or such? :)
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Blandman said
Meanwhile I'm just sitting here behind my desk...eating crisps.


what are crisps????
why dont i have any?
am i passive or agressive?
so many questions! ^^
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Nah, just patiently waiting to be told where me Team is meeting up.

Crisps are what them crazy colonials call chips. I mean...they're called crisps because they're crispy!
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Blandman said
Nah, just patiently waiting to be told where me Team is meeting up.


We both are. Probably IVMasterJay too. Someone light a fire under j8cob.
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Blandman said
Nah, just patiently waiting to be told where me Team is meeting up.Crisps are what them crazy colonials call chips. I mean...they're called crisps because they're crispy!


oh i see. i like crispy things. .....thats not a "thats what she said" moment is it?
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Shadowcatcher said
what are crisps????
why dont i have any?
am i passive or agressive?
so many questions! ^^


OMFG!
YES, YOU ARE!
Stop being sarcastic!
Why are you sitting alone without me?
Why.... No, I will resist.

But ":

@ Blandman and others

If you are waiting for a sensei, you can always do an intro post where your character is waiting or preparing him/herself. I remember it had been suggested some bit ago, but its a way to also make clear you're wondering where to go etc. ;3
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Little Alice said
OMFG!YES, YOU ARE!Stop being sarcastic! Why are you sitting alone without me?Why.... No, I will resist.But ": @ Blandman and othersIf you are waiting for a sensei, you can always do an intro post where your character is waiting or preparing him/herself. I remember it had been suggested some bit ago, but its a way to also make clear you're wondering where to go etc. ;3


go home alice. your drunk. XD
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Besides if anybody is bored,

The Databook

The last section of the Databook Entry (CS) isn't required. It are inside jokes that might be later reviewed again. Its something that will appear in the Breakdown, wanted to say that. Might also help to bring more information about your character. ^^

Isn't a requirement, but I would love to see people post their entry and keep it up to date now and then.

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Hey watch it..... I can drive perfectly... Me thinks. :C
.... I am going home :C
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