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That Guardian of yours looks incredibly powerful, perhaps a little TOO powerful. One Necrofear is annoying enough, but three? That is a true nightmare right there. Plus there's very little cost for that thing to get an aoe Book of Moon and 4 monsters.

Even ignoring that, you didn't put "ignoring its Summoning Conditions" for summoning Necrofear, nor put what type of summoning method used (it's a special summon, obviously, but it's just identified as "summon" in the card effect). Proper wording, man, proper wording!
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That Guardian of yours looks incredibly powerful, perhaps a little TOO powerful. One Necrofear is annoying enough, but three? That is a true nightmare right there. Plus there's very little cost for that thing to get an aoe Book of Moon and 4 monsters.

Even ignoring that, you didn't put "ignoring its Summoning Conditions" for summoning Necrofear, nor put what type of summoning method used (it's a special summon, obviously, but it's just identified as "summon" in the card effect). Proper wording, man, proper wording!


I don't know, Necrofear has been kind of power creeped recently with all the monsters that just bounce and pop things left and right not too hard to get rid of, and I was trying to kind remedy the power creep. But I think perhaps a stricter summoning cost might be in order (like dropping life points) or something, I'm not entirely sure, I guess we'll see.

As for the card text, you're one hundred percent right, I forgot to do that, which is strange because normally I'm such a stickler for those sorts of thing.
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I don't know, Necrofear has been kind of power creeped recently with all the monsters that just bounce and pop things left and right not too hard to get rid of, and I was trying to kind remedy the power creep. But I think perhaps a stricter summoning cost might be in order (like dropping life points) or something, I'm not entirely sure, I guess we'll see.


Fucking hell, the summoning requirement isn't the only thing that's broke about it! I'll sum it all up for you, including summon requirement:

-No cost to summon
-Bare minimum of LP gate (seriously, only 3k or lower?)
-Makes all your opponent's monsters useless because non-targeting AoE flipping
-Summons THREE beaters while being a beater itself, for a total of 8800 ATK (enough to OTK in even today's game.)
-One of the best protection effects you could have for 3/4 beaters
-'this guardian summon can not be negated'
-Absolutely no downside whatsoever to the effect

At least I can argue Scar's Guardian is a bitch to summon because you need two really specific monsters in the grave, but you can literally Foolish Burial this thing out.

As Garland said: A guardian should be a comeback, not a win condition. THIS is a win condition.
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And may I add the whole born-to-play thing? I didn't want to start it again, but it's very odd to be born to play 1 specific monster.
(Which is why I went with a more generic effect myself)
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Got you a reply :D

Also this is just what I think is gonna happen, but...

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@GarlandDaHero@Raddum Going to mention now that I'll be leaving on a school trip in two days, and I won't return until Friday. Feel free to ignore Shinji's existence until I come back.
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@Inuyasha How I'd change your guardian's effect to be more fair. look at mine for example. Its probably the hardest out of all the guardian effects to summon and its not even all that strong besides being a 3.2k toon beater with some protection included for Toon World and lets me search out a toon card.

-LP gate needed to summon has to be 1.5k or 2k.
-Remove flip facedown effect
-Summon ONE necrofear, THREE is way too much.
-Reduce the attack of the guardian monster or remove the protection effect from the necrofear OR make your guardian much harder to summon.
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Fucking hell, the summoning requirement isn't the only thing that's broke about it! I'll sum it all up for you, including summon requirement:

-No cost to summon
-Bare minimum of LP gate (seriously, only 3k or lower?)
-Makes all your opponent's monsters useless because non-targeting AoE flipping
-Summons THREE beaters while being a beater itself, for a total of 8800 ATK (enough to OTK in even today's game.)
-One of the best protection effects you could have for 3/4 beaters
-'this guardian summon can not be negated'
-Absolutely no downside whatsoever to the effect

As Garland said: A guardian should be a comeback, not a win condition. THIS is a win condition.


You need to take all of this into account for your guardian. I can't tell if you looked through the other characters at all, but you've gone beyond what any other player here has by an extremely large margin. (The only person who had one that could possibly compare didn't end up joining, if that makes anything clear).

First of all, three Necrofear shouldn't have even been something you should of considered: Summoning three GOOD monsters (Which can't be targeted at all) To the field while forcibly flipping everything your opponent has face down is -not- cool. The cost is extremely low, as 3k is only the halfway mark for your lifepoints. If this effect was to stay as is, I'd say you need a 500 or lower cost because you'd win the game pulling it off. (You aren't keeping it this way though, so don't bother taking this into account)

You need to read over the Guardians of the other characters and start from scratch. This whole thing is a mess, and until you have something that is less broken, I can't accept you.

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I agree with most of the other folks here that the x3 Necrofear Summon effect is a bit too strong.

...although, it can't even SUMMON Necrofear because it doesn't ignore their summoning conditions.

I also agree that the LP cost should be reduced to 1500-2000 or less, as well as removing the flip all monsters face-down effect, the anti-summon negation effect, and toning down the Necrofear protection effect, if not removing it entirely.

So until the Guardian is edited accordingly, this character is not accepted.

@GarlandDaHero@Raddum Going to mention now that I'll be leaving on a school trip in two days, and I won't return until Friday. Feel free to ignore Shinji's existence until I come back.


Duly noted. Thanks for letting us know, man.

And now for something completely different:

I noticed some of you folks wanted more NPCs. I'll be happy to deliver:









Raddum has some NPCs of his own, so here's some that I spruced up.
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Your gender balance gives me cancer
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oh shit i didn't even think about that

You had no problems with it in the PM though, what gives?
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I don't have any actual problems with it, I'm just kicking you in the shin.

It's what I do.

Don't worry; I have a few more NPCs I wouldn't mind introducing possibly. Female ones.

I can fix this.
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I know, I'm just going with the flow. ohey that rhymed

>more NPCs
>more girl NPCs

Don't let me down fam.
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I noticed some of you folks wanted more NPCs. I'll be happy to deliver:



H E ' S H E R E
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@Alder

I edited in a response for you, sorry for the delay. (Had to go to work last night).

It's a bit short, but I didn't want to drag on about her contemplation of what to do to Yo until the end of time, so I just made her get straight to the point instead.
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<Snipped quote by GarlandDaHero>

H E ' S H E R E


I had a feeling you would recognize him, since you're the first person I showed this guy too. Glad you're excited. :3
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Second posting round started?
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Admittedly this was a major oversight on my part. I did look at the other characters' Guardians I just think I underestimated how good it's effect was, and I truly apologize for that lack of foresight on my part. I'll think of reworking the effect or perhaps just a new one entirely. Again, mia culpa and all that.
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S'all good.

I just want a decently fair balance between everybody; The less problems we encounter once duels start, the better. Feel free to work on something else, and post it up for us to look at.

I appreciate you not arguing about it: Shows a lot of maturity compared to the groups I usually have to deal with.
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Yup, we're on the boat now. No dueling 'til we're at the island and after Ryuko gives the whole "WELCOME TO MY BATTLE CITY!" speech, as I think @Ryougu put it.
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