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Can't see it too. I'll see if my other devices, and check the problems for you, but I suggest posting it on the site or on some reliable image hosting websites
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@Artymis@Conscripts Oops. Thanks for noticing. I think its better now. ^^
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@PrewigaIll be popping in and out, mention me when your done.
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@pkken So regarding stats, the offical BnHA character book uses a 5 category, 5 point system. Categories being Power, Speed, Technique, Intelligence, and Cooperativeness. For reference, Deku's stats are Power: E, Speed: E, Technique: B, Intelligence: B, and Cooperativeness: A. All Might actually breaks the scale by having an S in every category.
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hey guys, please vote on this poll which will decide what we do with the stat system. strawpoll.com/xr1ff8yc
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Personally, I'd just use the one you have @pkken. While there is a version made by the manga, it's kinda hard to objectively level one's "Intelligence" in an RP. I could make a character who's S in Intelligence but that doesn't mean squat if I myself can't solve a simple riddle. Mental stuff is best left to solo authors since he can easily feed the answers to his character because they're "Smart", but you can't really do the same for characters you don't directly control. At least physical stuff could be reasonably measured by examples i.e. strong enough to dent metal, or tough enough to take a bullet.
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I could make a character who's S in Intelligence but that doesn't mean squat if I myself can't solve a simple riddle. Mental stuff is best left to solo authors since he can easily feed the answers to his character because they're "Smart", but you can't really do the same for characters you don't directly control.

There's also the issue of a smart player trying to play a dumb character--maybe it's not as difficult as the reverse, but I've already brainstormed a couple of scenarios with my character, Kenichi, where I suddenly realized "No, it wouldn't really make sense for him to do that because he wouldn't have access to that information like I do." That's a problem that always comes up in regards to Meta knowledge, but it also accounts for a person trying to write a character below their own intelligence level--we might have known something for so long, or it might have come so easily to us, that when other people don't have that level of knowledge we're surprised--"I thought everybody learned that?" The end result, for authors who aren't careful to double-check what they've written, is a character who is supposed to be dumb somehow either outdoing people smarter than they are, or causing a character who's supposed to be average to have to up their intelligence to genius level, and the genius has to now do tenth dimensional equations in order to keep their title.
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There's also the issue of a smart player trying to play a dumb character--maybe it's not as difficult as the reverse, but I've already brainstormed a couple of scenarios with my character, Kenichi, where I suddenly realized "No, it wouldn't really make sense for him to do that because he wouldn't have access to that information like I do." That's a problem that always comes up in regards to Meta knowledge, but it also accounts for a person trying to write a character below their own intelligence level--we might have known something for so long, or it might have come so easily to us, that when other people don't have that level of knowledge we're surprised--"I thought everybody learned that?" The end result, for authors who aren't careful to double-check what they've written, is a character who is supposed to be dumb somehow either outdoing people smarter than they are, or causing a character who's supposed to be average to have to up their intelligence to genius level, and the genius has to now do tenth dimensional equations in order to keep their title.


Yeah, I got the intelligence problem a few times when I was writing a fanfiction about a genius and several of his aides. And I somehow caused a huge gap between him and the others in regards of intelligence in order to make his role significant, so I have to play both dumb and smart character at the same time, and have to consider very carefully what they do and what they speak, which is hardcore. I like writing about smart guys who gives their opponents a hard time by just sitting on his desk, but I think, in the end, intelligence is the most difficult stat to be measured, as the course of human mind is extremely complex. That is also why I refrain from making a genius or a total fool in RPing, limiting him to only smart or sometimes clueless.
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Removing stats from the equation, if roleplaying a smart/dumb character is difficult or unwieldy for you, then don't do it. We plan to base stats around the CS, and if you wrote "my character is SO SMART" and then can't play it... well, whose fault is that?
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I'm just voicing my opinion, that intelligence stat might cause difficulties for players. Please don't think I'm being salty about it.
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Removing stats from the equation, if roleplaying a smart/dumb character is difficult or unwieldy for you, then don't do it. We plan to base stats around the CS, and if you wrote "my character is SO SMART" and then can't play it... well, whose fault is that?


Except maybe sometimes people don't write characters with different traits--smart, dumb, strong, weak, charismatic, ugly--because they're saying "look at me my character is SO X!" and instead write characters that way because they've never tried writing that type before and want to do something different. Or maybe they acknowledge that, in general, stories need to have varied casts. Or maybe they believe good characters need a variety of traits that can be positive, negative, or neutral.

I don't personally care whether we use stats or not--they're meant to be a comparison to weed out Sue behaviors, a progress bar to incentivize character development, a guide to what role different characters might serve in a team, etc. All good and well. But if they're being used, what's wrong with discussing the pros and cons to using them, and the things that players might want to be aware of when writing under such constraints?

"Don't try to do things if you can't do them well from the start! If someone is in the process of learning but makes a mistake, well whose fault is that?"
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@Conscripts Like I said, the Intelligence stat will be assigned according to what's written in the CS. We're not handing out stats at random, just having a loose quantifier to tie the RP closer to the source material. If your CS says "this is a smart character," you'll get a stat saying "this is a smart character."

@Zeroth You're kind of blowing it out of proportion. My point wasn't "never try," but more like if it's such a big problem for you maybe reconsider your character. An old adage is "write what you know," and if you don't know a fuckin thing, then, well.... you get the idea.
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Who cares about the stats? It is a forum rp. We are not rolling dice for combat here guys. If you want to worry about your stats and roleplay there is a thread for that called tabletop roleplay. I am sure you can find what you want there.
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@Dead CruiserNo one indicated it was a "big problem," or that it suddenly made them unable to play their character. All that was said was basically "A ranking won't mean much if the player can't match it," followed by "It's also worth double-checking from the opposite direction, so that the character doesn't outdo their ranking," and then "Yeah I had that problem before, here's how I dealt with it."

There wasn't any need for "If you want your character to be SO SMART but then can't play it, that's your fault!" with the implication that the writer themselves would be a dumbass, or that others were whining because the stats suddenly made them unable to play up their special snowflake.
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Who else hype because IC might start soon?
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The Rp will begin tomorrow!
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