Would it be OK to play this RP even if I'm not that good at RPing? And if yes, would it be okay to take this part of the world (the brown part) for a mongolia-like nation, as quite a lot of mongols live there?

@jorcool

Umm, i don't mean to be a bother but I claimed one of the territories you've claimed...

Fascism doesn't really exist, it never gained much popularity due to many of it's biggest pushers either dying(Adolf) or probably staying Socialist in a desperate attempt go fix the utter collapse of economics at home(Mussolini)

The Socialist vs Capitalist thing also is nowhere as it was OTL. Communism only exists in China and France atm, in terms of "powers" and they haven't pushed their wills onto neighbors like the USSR did. Nor is there a major capitalist superpower fighting them.

The USA just finished a civil war, and is fixing themselves up. The UK is standing up again and only just now streching their legs probably. Likewise with Italy.

Germany and Austria are pretty heavily state-buisnesses with interventionism, so calling them "capitalist" wouldnt be perfect.

PoW is more of a "Imperialism vs Independence" at the start, as Monarchies and Europe try to get back into the swing of things as socialist movements erupt in force and colonies enjoy their new independence.

@BrithwyrSorry! This should fix it I think


Edit: but don't count on anything, I'm not even sure if I want to play that area yet so if someone else really wants to take it

@Dinh AaronMk@Shyri

So I was doing some reading and it seems like the Netherlands was at something of a crises point in 1917, the balancing act of neutrality having almost started a famine. IRL as the war was close to ending the country managed to cut some quick deals with the entente and got food relief before revolutionary sentiment overflowed.

I'm thinking there might have been a socialist revolution around 1919/1920.

If that was the case I can see two options:

1. The already deployed 200,000 man army crushes the revolution and either (a supports the unpopular and failing states general or b) performs a coup and forms a military government.

2. The army mutinies and alongside the socialists overthrows the government and establishes a socialist state.

In all cases Dutch neutrality would be preserved given the circumstances, but I'd like to know your ooc and ic opinions.

Fascism doesn't really exist, it never gained much popularity due to many of it's biggest pushers either dying(Adolf) or probably staying Socialist in a desperate attempt go fix the utter collapse of economics at home(Mussolini)

I suspect the concept of fascism will exist, it just won't be called fascism. Militaristic dictators have existed for a long time and oftentimes mimic the things we think of when we think "Fascism." To be a proper mussolini fascist, a player just has to have a far-right reactionary regime using far-left mass organization tactics. So if we have a militarist who has come to power using paramilitarism and party organization, we have a Fascist of a sort.

At this point, if you want to go with a reactionary mass-organization government, there are three choices. You can be like the Nazi's and name your movement after the political party leading it. Or you can be like Mussolini's Fascists and name your movement after a symbol you have chosen to represent it. Or you can name it after your leader like Francoist for Franco.

I guess that works 🤔

@The Spectre

I'll have to go with just about everyone else on this matter: you'll need to drop the territories in Mexico or Colombia. Or if you really want to, find some manner of justification to take either beyond, "lol i just need more industrial resources". You'll need to work out some geopolitics to that effect as well to go about it. But for what I think of when I hear central America - agriculture - I don't necessarily see a power that can stand toe-to-toe with countries that hold industrial resources as Colombia and Mexico.

If you're of course afraid of an invasion or intervention by either power in the future, as would be rightly expected by the government, then it might perhaps be a good opportunity to be active in the international theater, but you'll also need to drop those claims still. In this case, I might suggest your focus moving ahead is to inter-twine your country's story with that of another and have diplomatic arcs under the pretense of finding allies in the Americas or abroad to protect your country from Mexico or Colombia. But to start off claiming parts of their land while they're not spoken for isn't a good foot to start on.

Hell from a writing perspective I'd argue it sets you up so independent of anyone for immediate needs you don't need to be active outside so you won't be so readily involved.

@Apple

Pretty sure @Societas has claim to Ireland too. So if you both want to be Ireland you'll need to work something out. I'm not entirely opposed to multi-player countries if that means more interesting stuff can be written. But the nation as a whole has been claimed.

@Brithwyr@jorcool

As I'm sure I said one of the early intentions I have in this RP is to be soon involved in the Russian quagmire. You can be there, but from a military perspective I don't both will be lasting long since Siberia is so ungodly empty. From an ideological perspective, if one or both are pre-alligned communist then China'll probably end up avoiding you or both your statelets can be incorporated in the story involved. In either case if you plan on sticking around we'll probably have to put together a PM convo to work something out.

@Dinh AaronMk@Shyri

So I was doing some reading and it seems like the Netherlands was at something of a crises point in 1917, the balancing act of neutrality having almost started a famine. IRL as the war was close to ending the country managed to cut some quick deals with the entente and got food relief before revolutionary sentiment overflowed.

I'm thinking there might have been a socialist revolution around 1919/1920.

If that was the case I can see two options:

1. The already deployed 200,000 man army crushes the revolution and either (a supports the unpopular and failing states general or b) performs a coup and forms a military government.

2. The army mutinies and alongside the socialists overthrows the government and establishes a socialist state.

In all cases Dutch neutrality would be preserved given the circumstances, but I'd like to know your ooc and ic opinions.

It fits, it ships.

Hell if you want to carry the drama further comparisons might be made with the French revolution where once the Revolutionary government was in power they came to the conclusion or found they couldn't really fix the crisis that brought them there anyways; a famine. So they went on a reign of terror to help hide it. Just a thought.

Now, all this isn't to say some nations are doomed to be steamrolled by others. In PoW history, two Finns took down Russia, and that happened in IC way back in the day. And it was awesome. What's not as awesome is when crazy stuff like that happens in an app for no real reason besides "i want clay". You can go to war with those countries and maybe win, but do it in IC with a good reason and with cool posts.

@The Spectre

If you're of course afraid of an invasion or intervention by either power in the future, as would be rightly expected by the government, then it might perhaps be a good opportunity to be active in the international theater, but you'll also need to drop those claims still. In this case, I might suggest your focus moving ahead is to inter-twine your country's story with that of another and have diplomatic arcs under the pretense of finding allies in the Americas or abroad to protect your country from Mexico or Colombia. But to start off claiming parts of their land while they're not spoken for isn't a good foot to start on.

Hell from a writing perspective I'd argue it sets you up so independent of anyone for immediate needs you don't need to be active outside so you won't be so readily involved.

Why should I? How do I know that this NRP isn't going to die like the other that were interesting? Why waste all of my hard work onto something that could die at any moment? How long is it going to last before people start to disappear without any word? I am not saying that I won't mind at all if my nation was terrible. Hell, I am up to controlling only Central America, improving it, and expanding it ICly. But, I don't want all of my hard work to be wasted. I have been in many roleplays that I put time into my sheets and liked them but the roleplay suddenly dies because the GM disappeared or players began to lose interest all of a sudden.

I know that it's a game of luck but it's gets tiresome if the majority of roleplays (that you joined) die within a couple of weeks. And I am not trying to sound like a douche (sorry if you think that I am). I am just tried of being let down by GMs, who suddenly disappear without word and the roleplay just dies.

@BrithwyrSorry! This should fix it I think


Edit: but don't count on anything, I'm not even sure if I want to play that area yet so if someone else really wants to take it

Thanks. Sorry to be a bother ;~;

@Brithwyr@jorcool

As I'm sure I said one of the early intentions I have in this RP is to be soon involved in the Russian quagmire. You can be there, but from a military perspective I don't both will be lasting long since Siberia is so ungodly empty. From an ideological perspective, if one or both are pre-alligned communist then China'll probably end up avoiding you or both your statelets can be incorporated in the story involved. In either case if you plan on sticking around we'll probably have to put together a PM convo to work something out.

Sounds like a plan. I was actually hoping to woo the US XD

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Why should I? How do I know that this NRP isn't going to die like the other that were interesting? Why waste all of my hard work onto something that could die at any moment? How long is it going to last before people start to disappear without any word? I am not saying that I won't mind at all if my nation was terrible. Hell, I am up to controlling only Central America, improving it, and expanding it ICly. But, I don't want all of my hard work to be wasted. I have been in many roleplays that I put time into my sheets and liked them but the roleplay suddenly dies because the GM disappeared or players began to lose interest all of a sudden.

I know that it's a game of luck but it's gets tiresome if the majority of roleplays (that you joined) die within a couple of weeks. And I am not trying to sound like a douche (sorry if you think that I am). I am just tried of being let down by GMs, who suddenly disappear without word and the roleplay just dies.

I can bug 90% of the people in this RP to at least giving me an answer. The only unaccountable people are ClocktowerEchoes and KGP and they're probably going to set up in Japan. Otherwise the only other closest person to you that'd be relevant in Byrd and we have a time-table for his brief disappearance coming up but he'll be back. The next otherwise unreliable goober is Peppermints, and that's why he's trying for something that won't get him tied up with other people.

But that aside, just because NPCs are unclaimed doesn't mean they're untouchable. If it comes down to brass tacks you can work around with NPC diplomacy only going as far to detail a nation as it takes to write a diplomatic arc. In the end you're probably pre-writing someone's Brazil or Peru a little but you're not dead-dead. It's how I sat around as China for the greater part of four years in the old PoW.

@BrithwyrDon't worry, you're not being a bother. I just did not see correctly and fixed it

PoW has lived for years. This RP won't die until Aaron literally dies IRL.

@jorcool

If your setting up in Mongolia, are you planning on wooing China or another superpower? If the latter, maybe we can be friends

Siberian superpower lel

Well that's my plan. Befriend the US and have them invest in us so we can improve our infrastructure. Its a slow burn but the Commonwealth could become a local power with some investment. The US would appreciate having allies that control the strait to Alaska as well

I'd love to help you guys, but you're so darn far east that I can't even pretend to try.

So, I am officially have no idea on what to do next since all of my original ideas were crushed.

Too bad you're a bunch of filthy rebels that need to be put down by the rightful rulers of Russia.

Which, if I haven't mentioned, means me. Probably gonna sign up as some continuation of the Russian Empire. As legitimate as possible in the quagmire that is PoW Russia. Need to be able to use my laptop first though.