And by insurgents I'm sure you mean to say freedom fighters, what is so wrong about wanting a free and prosperous Tau Ceti?!

@POOHEAD189 Feel free to post something old, if it's still relevant, and since history repeats itself frequently in politics, that shouldn't be too hard. Can't be any less viable of an option...

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Here's I'll do it myself. These videos/rants are old but perfectly encapsulate my feelings on the things still going on now.





And the here's a very recent counter to the sputtering idea that people like this, magically stopped existing. It really wouldn't be so easy to constantly find evidence not supporting the "fringe" isn't "the fringe", over and over again on the daily.



And to engage in a dialogue, the most important thing as this video proves. What are your feelings on either scenario listed?

@Penny Only the breaching of the Centi Confederation peace accords! *slams fist on table*

@POOHEAD189 Its awful convenient how you drag out the CC when it fits your position!

... Tell me more about this Tau Centi fiasco

Yeah Andrew was not being butthurt. Plus I'm still of the idea that uh, you cannot kick people out of the thread lol.

Thats a nice idea. But actually I can. Just because you guys like it here, doesnt mean it cant be treated like any other thread. If a mod told me and mdk to 'knock it off' and then he continues to tag me after I directly asked him not to, (twice). he's on the fast track to the Ace Of Hearts special. This has gone beyond political disagreements, hes just trying to troll me and no amount of ron burgandy memes makes that less of an issue.

But I know youre dying to call me a hypocrite, find somewhere in this thread where ive continued to tag someone after they asked me not to, I'll wait.

And you might have missed the part where andrew was cursing at Xandrya because she made a fairly mild statement about gun control, but I didnt. Dont let your personal bias cloud your judgement fam.

There was salt on both sides

-Trump

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Thats a nice idea. But actually I can. Just because you guys like it here, doesnt mean it cant be treated like any other thread. If a mod told me and mdk to 'knock it off' and then he continues to tag me after I directly asked him not to, (twice). he's on the fast track to the Ace Of Hearts special. This has gone beyond political disagreements, hes just trying to troll me and no amount of ron burgandy memes makes that less of an issue.

But I know youre dying to call me a hypocrite, find somewhere in this thread where ive continued to tag someone after they asked me not to, I'll wait.

And you might have missed the part where andrew was cursing at Xandrya because she made a fairly mild statement about gun control, but I didnt. Dont let your personal bias cloud your judgement fam.

There was salt on both sides

-Trump

I see how my passion for the topic and my choice of profanity may have been construed as "butthurt" but that's just how I express myself when I relate my own feelings towards the mass media response to congress of "Do something!" without actually offering any realistic or productive solutions. It had nothing to do with Xandrya personally, and we engaged in a discourse that I felt was very mature and productive shortly after that. I have no problems with anyone having an opinion different from mine or disagreeing with me. I don't get offended when someone tells me that something I believe in is invalid because they believe something else. My life goes on just the same as theirs. If they are open to having a dialogue about it, I will gladly share my views while equally allowing them to share theirs and the reasoning behind it. And then we can learn something about each other and move on all the same.

But then there are some people who can't deal with the fact that someone out there thinks that their ideas are stupid, so they throw out aggressive language over the keyboard to other people and puff out their cyber chests and try to make everyone think they're scary. Guess what? Literally billions of people probably disagree with you, and some of them might feel just as salty about it as you do. What are you going to do, start a fight on the internet with anyone who thinks you're wrong?

At the end of the day, opinions are opinions, and it doesn't change how the world spins. Get the fuck over yourself.

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I see how my passion for the topic and my choice of profanity may have been construed as "butthurt"

But then there are some people who can't deal with the fact that someone out there thinks that their ideas are stupid, so they throw out aggressive language over the keyboard to other people

Oh lord, this holier than thou speech is insufferable.

So when YOU use profanity its 'out of passion' and when someone else does the same thing as you (disagrees on the internet) its salty and aggressive?

Newsflash, you're in the same goddamn pigpen as all of us, debate, argue and swear until the cows come home, but don't be in this thread with a grand total of 8 posts and try to dictate how discourse should be managed on the internet. I'll do things my way ,you do things your way, and save your preaching for the conservative christian voter base who voted for a serial adulterer, they probably need it.

Of course I'm not referring to your use of profanity, but rather the personal attacks you direct at people that don't agree with you.

Think what you want, I've no desire to change your mind, just wanted to try to make my position understood.

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Thats a nice idea. But actually I can. Just because you guys like it here, doesnt mean it cant be treated like any other thread. If a mod told me and mdk to 'knock it off' and then he continues to tag me after I directly asked him not to, (twice). he's on the fast track to the Ace Of Hearts special. This has gone beyond political disagreements, hes just trying to troll me and no amount of ron burgandy memes makes that less of an issue.

But I know youre dying to call me a hypocrite, find somewhere in this thread where ive continued to tag someone after they asked me not to, I'll wait.

And you might have missed the part where andrew was cursing at Xandrya because she made a fairly mild statement about gun control, but I didnt. Dont let your personal bias cloud your judgement fam.

There was salt on both sides

-Trump

Where the heck do I even start.

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Thats a nice idea. But actually I can.

I'll start here:

No, you can't.

OT initiators can set a behavior guideline at the start of their thread. (Which you never did.) They can request staff step in if someone violates those guidelines. (Which you can't do, because no OP guidelines.)

You CAN request staff step in if someone breaks rules.

he's on the fast track to the Ace Of Hearts special.

Not really, also, isn't there a rule against talking about bans? Really looks like you're trying to use someone else's ban to intimidate a new member. Just a first look impression, but hey.

Nutter's favourite message!!!!

Make sure you all read the rules for a refresher.

Really looks like you're trying to use someone else's ban to intimidate a new member.

Naw, they were (somewhat rightfully) responding to some almost-certainly-too-on-the-nose cheekiness from a very old member (this guy) who oughta know better, but that's just my read.

@Ruby@NuttsnBolts
erm, just to clarify, does this

GMs and Co-GM RP thread bans are up to them. Staff does not police RP thread bans

then not apply to poo flinging off topic, spam, and other boards?

@Ruby@NuttsnBolts
erm, just to clarify, does this
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then not apply to poo flinging off topic, spam, and other boards?

It does not.

@Andreyich This is a discussion thread, not a roleplay with a GM (game master) or co-GMs.

@Ruby As @mdk said, I wasnt responding to the new member (andrew) I was responding to mdk in response to a mod telling us to both knock it off. The back and forth wasn't getting us anywhere.

I was only responding andrew calling me salty over 'a political disagreement' when the issue was actually to do more with tagging, but he's new so he probably missed that and made an assumption.

Either way, I'm guessing I better put in some OP guidelines, I'll edit the first post and link everyone back to it.

Of course I'm not referring to your use of profanity, but rather the personal attacks you direct at people that don't agree with you.

Except this simply isnt true. This is the most active thread in off topic, fastest growing and 2nd largest. Do you really think after all this time, posts and exchanges that I 'cant handle' opposing opinions? Do you think I ever would have made a political hangout thread thinking id be surrounded by a bunch of people who agree with me?

Dont confuses ideological disagreement, devils advocay, random shitposting, or even friendly jokes with 'personal attacks' I've been handling discourse not just between me but other members since ive been posting in off-topic. I recently just had a conversation with an australian ethnostatist a few pages back, I'm not sure where you stand on ethnonationalism but I'm not a fan of it, the conversation was respectful, if I couldnt handle discourse that exchanhe never would have happened.

Your position has been made clear, free market place of ideas and all that dave rubin stuff, but realise that preaching the value of debate to someone who made a debate thread is a tad condescending. Whatever you think of my opinions this thread works, certain members dont post anywhere else on this forum but here.

But if I am at fault, its not putting in thread guidelines earlier so Id have a reference point to moderate behaviour with, I'll be correcting that now.

unrelated hot take: Fergie's national anthem wasn't that bad.

unrelated hot take: Fergie's national anthem wasn't that bad.

Fake news.

Either way, I'm guessing I better put in some OP guidelines, I'll edit the first post and link everyone back to it.

Very cool. Do keep in mind that whether or not someone gets action taken against them by site staff for violating OP guidelines is a judgment call for staff, not the thread originator.

Good luck!