Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

[Burning Kitty]

My net pay is larger under Trump than under Obama. That and fiscal conservatism is the only one of two things I look for in a politician.

[Dolerman]

My net pay is larger under Trump than under Obama. That and fiscal conservatism is the only one of two things I look for in a politician.

@Burning Kitty

That and edgelord positions about the disabled.

[Burning Kitty]

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That and edgelord positions about the disabled.

@Dynamo Frokane

They are not disabled, I'm disappointed in you. Know your PC terms dearie.

[Andrew Blade]

Not every teacher should be armed and any who are should be processed, vetted, trained, and kept on a living record. It should be a conceal carry option for those that qualify in it, with the addition that if a school does not wish firearms to be on the campus in the hands of teachers, either because they cannot afford a privately owned weapon or because ideologically they are against firearms, there should be a waiver written for it. This would place all liability on the school itself and it need to find alternative means that afford the same level of protection, be that a police officer, rather officers, by an agreement with local or state law enforcement, or by using other techniques such as metal detectors, interlocks, and screening areas to achieve roughly similar effect.

I certainly do not believe every teacher should be armed, but those who are should be held to the highest standards of reliability and follow processes the federal government already uses for the arming of its members and when they are not authorized to bear firearms. Example being that if said certified teacher is on medication that is mind or mood altering, they are not permitted to carry their weapon; same with those undergoing counselling or those with financial issues. In short, lift a process from one side that does work and has worked and shift it over to the other.

@The Harbinger of Ferocity

I 100% agree with everything stated in this post.

[Andrew Blade]

It may be the wine I had this evening but...I mean, I can't argue with you on most aspects of this discussion. I do, however, fully stand behind the biometric device. I believe it's a great idea to prevent illegal use of handguns which lead to incidents such as the one here. Your wife/friend/neighbor may not be able to play with it at the range, but maybe something can be done about finding a way to activate/deactivate the device. Only you as the owner would have the option to do so though.

And the argument where someone threatens you at knifepoint or whatever is a bit silly, but I was trying to look at every viable option to try to cover all grounds in favor of the biometric device.

I do have to admit that you're probably the first person with a different belief than mine who's successfully managed to get me to agree with some of their viewpoints.

@Xandrya

I strive very hard to turn arguments about controversial topics into conversations and discussions with differing viewpoints. I never believe I'm right and you're wrong, just that we disagree, and I like to state the reasons why I feel the way I do, while listening to someone else's.

[Xandrya]

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I strive very hard to turn arguments about controversial topics into conversations and discussions with differing viewpoints. I never believe I'm right and you're wrong, just that we disagree, and I like to state the reasons why I feel the way I do, while listening to someone else's.

@Andrew Blade

And that's how it should be. I'm honestly the same way as you and I like to know why people hold certain beliefs, especially since there are people who firmly believe in something just because that's how they were raised or because someone told them to believe in that one thing.

[Dolerman]

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They are not disabled, I'm disappointed in you. Know your PC terms dearie.

@Burning Kitty

Im referring to your previous quotes you made about the diasabled, if a politician came out in support of that sort of treatment for them, I'm sure youd vote for them based on that too, mate.

[Burning Kitty]

If by supporting treatment you mean they pay for it themselves, with insurance, or through gofundme, then yes I support them getting treatment. I will never support government subsidies of any variety.

Besides you still called them disabled, and you did it again. Shame on you. PC police will be knocking on your door to take you to a reeducation center.

[mdk]

I strive very hard to turn arguments about controversial topics into conversations and discussions with differing viewpoints. I never believe I'm right and you're wrong, just that we disagree, and I like to state the reasons why I feel the way I do, while listening to someone else's.

@Andrew Blade

Im referring to your previous quotes you made about the diasabled, if a politician came out in support of that sort of treatment for them, I'm sure youd vote for them based on that too, mate.

@Dynamo Frokane

Here we see two different approaches to debate.....

[Dolerman]

@mdk Basically you stop tagging me like I asked you to (twice), or dont participate in my thread.

Think long and hard about it, mate.

[Andrew Blade]

o.O

Make a political thread and then get salty when people disagree with you.

... Riiiiiiight...

[Andreyich]

I was basing it off the many public school teachers I've meet over the years. Fortunately there are other resources http://lmgtfy.com/?q=teachers+buying+class+room+supplies+out+of+pocket

@Penny

'posting a google search is okay only for me :^]'

[Andreyich]

@mdk Basically you stop tagging me like I asked you to (twice), or dont participate in my thread.

Think long and hard about it, mate.

@Dynamo Frokane

that's kind of ironic chum

[Dolerman]

@Andreyich

Irony is EBIL... something something.

o.O

Make a political thread and then get salty when people disagree with you.

... Riiiiiiight...

@Andrew Blade

Riiiiggght...this coming from the kid getting butthurt over your precious guns being criticised in your first couple of posts.

Youre new here so I'll fill you in on something about this thread. Throwing mud from the pigpen doesnt make you any cleaner.

[Andrew Blade]

Your definition of butthurt is clearly different from mine. That or your perception is flawed. I'm beginning to see now what mdk is referring to if you thought that the exchange I've participated in this thread involved my feelings being affected. I am sad for you and anyone that you attempt to engage in an intelligent discourse with if this is an example of how you conduct yourself in those instances.

[POOHEAD189]

Yeah Andrew was not being butthurt. Plus I'm still of the idea that uh, you cannot kick people out of the thread lol.

[mdk]

Your definition of butthurt is clearly different from mine. That or your perception is flawed. I'm beginning to see now what mdk is referring to if you thought that the exchange I've participated in this thread involved my feelings being affected. I am sad for you and anyone that you attempt to engage in an intelligent discourse with if this is an example of how you conduct yourself in those instances.

@Andrew Blade

Let's, uh.... let's not personalize this whole thing any more than we've already done, yeah? Anyone got some politics going on? Politics, anyone?

edit: I know, I know, I just did that. Thought I was being funny, this suddenly feels like I started a more serious turn and I don't wanna do that. Let's do the politics thing instead, that's better.

[POOHEAD189]

Let's, uh.... let's not personalize this whole thing any more than we've already done, yeah? Anyone got some politics going on? Politics, anyone?

@mdk

Does it have to be current politics?

[Penny]

Why? Do you have points to debate regarding the July Crisis of 1914? Or the fiscal underpinnings of Maria Theresa's Austria? ;)

Maybe we should go the other direction and consider the ramifications of the Tau Ceti situation?

[POOHEAD189]

Maybe we should go the other direction and consider the ramifications of the Tau Ceti situation?

@Penny

You jest now but if the system doesn't get their insurgents under control they'll devolve into a 3rd war of succession.