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So I’m at a loss. I’ve been here for a good 9-10 months and my luck with Roleplaying has been ZILCH. I really don’t know what’s going on. I’ve been patient, diversified concepts and ideas, and even reached out to people. I have at most had 2 RP’s the whole time I’ve been here. One of them died within 2 weeks and the other one is aging to death via slow and half-hearted posting.

I have over 35 concepts (I archive all of my Interest Checks after releasing them.) and they’ve all proved to be flops. As far as the “community” is concerned anyway. I’m not sure what it is. It has to be something other than I’m just not hitting the right notes.

I’m honestly debating on if I should resign from here or not. All this site has really been for me is a complete wrecking ball in my confidence as a writer and a vent of waste for my internet data (I OP off of an iPad.). I just don’t know. Do I have this reputation I’m unaware of? Am I being actively boycotted? Is it because I don’t kiss-ass in the discord? Again; I’ve been patient and diversified my IC’s and I can’t get any partners. Perhaps I’m just underrated (as usual).?
I’ve even tried loosening up on my personal policies and writing styles. Pretty’ fishy.

As pompous and frustrated as I sound I mean again; WHATS UP?

I’m asking for feedback or PM’s. Not 3rd grade “fag” jokes and one-liners please.

Consider this post as venting heavy frustration and a statement of confusion.
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Eh’ I’m not going to get an answer.
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Well, I had one thing that was a 1x1 idea pitch in the blind that ended up becoming a large group RP that I now have to GM. So somewhere between where you are and where I'm at should be a solution.

In my case it was knowing a few roleplayers well enough to have an idea for common themes that they want...

The other was persistance. Because the first 6 people I pitched it to didn't go very far even though interest was shown, or there was an expectation to just jump directly into the roleplay (which hardly happens in my case).

Thirdly is figuring out when and what to start dialing back on in terms of themes to pursue. As some people intersted in the same genre may not be comfortable with some aspects of it, or not quite willing to give it a 270 degree twist yet (others will just yawn unless you offer a full 960 and throw in a few kinks).
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Well, I had one thing that was a 1x1 idea pitch in the blind that ended up becoming a large group RP that I now have to GM. So somewhere between where you are and where I'm at should be a solution.

In my case it was knowing a few roleplayers well enough to have an idea for common themes that they want...

The other was persistance. Because the first 6 people I pitched it to didn't go very far even though interest was shown, or there was an expectation to just jump directly into the roleplay (which hardly happens in my case).

Thirdly is figuring out when and what to start dialing back on in terms of themes to pursue. As some people intersted in the same genre may not be comfortable with some aspects of it, or not quite willing to give it a 270 degree twist yet (others will just yawn unless you offer a full 960 and throw in a few kinks).


I’ve tried persistence.

And as for knowing people... Well, people won’t really RP with me. I’m an outcast. Hence IDK what people like.

EDIT: Geez’ I don’t normally get this melodramatic. I’m quite frustrated though.
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If you can build up a retort with people, you can hold a conversation.

If you can hold a conversation -even if it's an arguement- you can learn something about them if you pay attention.

For example, sometimes where a RP stalls indicates that a part of the RP concept needs to get trimmed to keep others from tripping on it.
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If you can build up a retort with people, you can hold a conversation.

If you can hold a conversation -even if it's an arguement- you can learn something about them if you pay attention.

For example, sometimes where a RP stalls indicates that a part of the RP concept needs to get trimmed to keep others from tripping on it.


Here’s the deal; I’m not here to “chat”. I’m here to write, not socialize. You CAN write with people without pointlessly chatting. Can you not?

I don’t care about your child or your cancerous mother, I just want to write and keep the relationship simple. Can we not just discuss ideas and concepts??
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It is generally harder to collaberate if you actively discourage discourse, brainstorming, or feedback in a relaxed atmosphere. I'm sorry if all you took from that was dealing with personal baggage of others as I respond to your question in the wrong subforum.

Or even simply joking around. Which is what spam does best.
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Here’s the deal; I’m not here to “chat”. I’m here to write, not socialize. You CAN write with people without pointlessly chatting. Can you not?

I don’t care about your child or your cancerous mother, I just want to write and keep the relationship simple. Can we not just discuss ideas and concepts??


I think this is the problem; most people aren't here to have a sterile, professional experience. They see RPing as a social experience and not one purely revolving around writing. If you want the type of people that do, in fact, write for writing's sake, then you are going to need to advertise that fact in anything you do, else you'll attract people who think you're offering a social experience like most other RPs.
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I think this is the problem; most people aren't here to have a sterile, professional experience. They see RPing as a social experience and not one purely revolving around writing. If you want the type of people that do, in fact, write for writing's sake, then you are going to need to advertise that fact in anything you do, else you'll attract people who think you're offering a social experience like most other RPs.


I will admit this is my general issue. With society.

I WILL say though, that my IC intros are quite friendly and open.
The problem I’m having is even getting people to acknowledge me or PM me.
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Well, I'm noticing a trend here, but there's people several timezones over that aren't online right now that may be interested in responding, but then they see you stating an intent to abandon your own interest-check within 30 minutes of posting it.
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Well, I'm noticing a trend here, but there's people several timezones over that aren't online right now that may be interested in responding, but then they see you stating an intent to abandon your own interest-check within 30 minutes of posting it.


Normally chum I would believe you. But again; 10 MONTHS. Ten months of patience and waiting, of formulating ideas and putting them to metaphorical paper, and for what?
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On top of what Foster said, I would add that most RPs don't move anywhere near as fast as you seem to think they do. My experience is that even if you can find a few that get a decent pace for a while, they always dwindle down to at least a few days between posts, if not weeks, and even months.

It is also hardly an experience unique to yourself to get few to no responses, especially in such a short time frame. If you look around the int check sections of the site, you'll find some that haven't received a single response, and these are for group RPs that are expected to have more than one other person involved.

I can understand your frustration at having little to show for months of RPing, but if my experience has taught me anything (I have done plenty of RPing elsewhere, fyi), it's that its hardly uncommon. Yes, maybe you can find people that seem to have what they want, but there's also many that don't, and that's just the facts of life.
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On top of what Foster said, I would add that most RPs don't move anywhere near as fast as you seem to think they do. My experience is that even if you can find a few that get a decent pace for a while, they always dwindle down to at least a few days between posts, if not weeks, and even months.

It is also hardly an experience unique to yourself to get few to no responses, especially in such a short time frame. If you look around the int check sections of the site, you'll find some that haven't received a single response, and these are for group RPs that are expected to have more than one other person involved.

I can understand your frustration at having little to show for months of RPing, but if my experience has taught me anything (I have done plenty of RPing elsewhere, fyi), it's that its hardly uncommon. Yes, maybe you can find people that seem to have what they want, but there's also many that don't, and that's just the facts of life.


“Yes, maybe you can find people that seem to have what they want, but there's also many that don't, and that's just the facts of life.“

I’m not stupid.
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I never meant to suggest you were. If I am suggesting anything, it is simply that you must accept that your story is not unique and there is no miracle cure to your woes. I hope that doesn't come across as condescending, but its about all anyone can say, I imagine.
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Here’s the deal; I’m not here to “chat”. I’m here to write, not socialize. You CAN write with people without pointlessly chatting. Can you not?

I don’t care about your child or your cancerous mother, I just want to write and keep the relationship simple. Can we not just discuss ideas and concepts??


I understand the frustration with slowness and lack of response. That can be difficult and it's not just you. I certainly know that lack can be disheartening for a writer. Especially, if they aren't doing it for themselves above the rest.

But yes, you can do that. It's called opening a word document and writing something. (Not sarcasm, I'm seriously suggesting this as someone who does this when roleplaying fails to fill my desire to create.)

But no, I don't think you can RP correctly without some conversation, even if strictly/mostly about the RP itself. You get more people interested in writing, by breaking the ice and holding a conversation. If you're *that* opposed to ice-breaking, it's hard to imagine being enjoyable to experience a wholly collaborative medium with that in mind. This is a forum and it is entirely a social form of communication. (And I'm not saying that to be condescending, but I genuinely think you have the wrong mindset approaching RP's if that's taken at face value.)
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If your going to demand people approach RPs a certain way then you are absolutely going to foreclose options.

As for not socializing, go write a novel if you are so allergic to personal interaction.

Group RPs are much more unreliable than 1x1s but even there you need to buy into other peoples visions or incorporate those visions into your own, that is the nature of collaboration. Even so about 70 percent of my RPs die in the planning stage because it becomes obvious that we are interested in different things.

Don't be too prescriptive in you interest checks. Its a turn off to feel like your partner already has everything nailed down and you are just along for the ride.

Finally with regards to RPs dying due to half hearted posting, active communication can help but some days or weeks people arent feeling it and its work just to get a reply of any kind up. That has to be accepted if you want to write with people long term.

I don't use the discord and I still have 3 or 4 rps which have been satisfying over the long term and my interests are fairly niche. Kiss the frogs.
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