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To The Depths

When the sins of man flooded earth it gave birth to a new dawn. A thousand years of prosperity came about to the land of man as it prospered under the new world. but from their prosperity came selfishness and greed, and when an angel came to take up human views he was sent to earth and in his fiery blaze created a hole within the center of Earth. Spanning miles it was named the abyss for its black fog that covered its insides and those who neared its darkness would suddenly disappear. 

From the descent of a fallen angel God became silent and from his silence heavenly horns played within the sky, the day after, angels came from the abyss but bore charred wings. Foolishly humanity took this as a sign of good faith and that these angels would help them in their prosperity but the moment they turned their backs the angels struck and a mass genocide occurred. The earthly realm began to topple as the angels attacked, killing every last human in their sight as if to eradicate God’s creation from Earth. 

Luckily human tenacity shined within the very soul of mankind’s body and on the edge of their existence, God spoke and gave them a gift. A weapon of sorts that would aid mankind in their war against the charred-Angels. God’s gift would manifest into the human body and soon after would be formally called the Spirit. But in turn for accepting God’s gift they would relinquish the right to ascend to heaven, and in their final moment before returning to slumber God nicknamed the charred-Angels, Demons. 

In a cry of hope, humanity led the first crusade against Demons, with their Spirit they conjured miracles, shining down rays of light, healing their comrades, and striking their foe with great power. A war finally sparked and every day for the next upcoming decades would be filled with constant bloodshed. The fight for survival became heavy and in humanity's fifth crusade they reached the abyss and created a lone castle on its edge, fighting head-on against demonic forces as humans would be sent down into the abyss to find the origin of the evil that sparked the war.

Gift of God

	After its arrival, the spirit was intensely studied. Before then it was well known that when God had created humans from divine dust they were given dual pieces, the body, and the soul. The body and the soul worked in tandem to give life and personality to the human form. But when the gift is accepted into man’s body the Spirit is introduced. A spirit is an innate energy from the heavenly realm that gives humans a mystical power to fight against Demons, this energy flows in the center of the body and then with the human will is moved from either the soul or to the physical-body. This creates two major categories that separate different users of the gift. Spiritual and Physical. 

Spiritual

 	Spiritual users are those who focus their energy on their soul. By focusing on the soul they enable the ability to gain control over the divine energies or more specifically, magic. Magic is an umbrella term in regards to its ambiguous and mysterious form having the ability to summon storms, control lightning, and heal allies it is the most powerful gift compared to its brother, Physical. But in its strength it also faces weakness, due to its focus on the soul it loses energy from the body, and thus those dawning the spiritual gift become weaker in the physical aspect.  

Casting & Vessels
 Spiritual casting is centered around God’s language, while it’s true name is unknown it simply goes by heavenly tongue. Verbally speaking with heavenly tongue is the most common form of casting, simply put a user speaks in heavenly tongue and then manifest their spiritual energy to conjure whatever they willed into the physical realm. This type of casting can also be aided with vessels to increase the potency of the spell they cast or in special cases use non-verbal casting. 

Nonverbal casting is the act of using a purified-feather to write divine symbols into an object or persons. A purified feather is the feather of a demon that has been thoroughly purified in holy water, after its purification the feather’s tip becomes extremely hot to the touch and burns almost anything in its path. In proper use the energy from the feather is used to enchant weapons and armor or draw divine symbols into such, the act of writing a divine symbol includes concentration and heavy focus into pouring spiritual energy into the symbol and once the symbol has been sufficiently powered it becomes a permanent marking on the persons or object it's drawn on, it is then simply up to the user to focus on the symbol to cast it. 

Vessels come in a variety of shapes most often do mages use staffs, books, and wands. But in some other cases use swords, lanterns, and even mirrors. Vessels can be anything its user wills it to be as long as it has a focus, a body, and spiritual energy. For a lantern, the body could be its metallic shell and its focus, the fire. For a book’s body, it could be its leather back cover and its focus, the words. For a staffs the body could be its wooden structure and its focus, a crystal. As long as the user pours their energy into an object anything can become a vessel. 

Physical

Physical users focus their spirit into the body, allowing them to exceed their physical limitations by becoming stronger, faster, and durable. Users with this gift focus on a single aspect of their body, choosing between strength, constitution, and dexterity. And depending on what they choose their body also adapts to their decision but in choosing one you weaken in another aspect (of your choosing). 

Unlike spiritual gifts, physical users do not cast spells but instead perform feats in which the user focuses their spirit energy to act on their aspects. From destroying boulders, running at incredible speeds, or enduring a barrage of arrows feats are essentially the extreme enhancement of one's aspects in turn for energy. 

Lastly, physical users present an extra ability that allows them to transfer their spirit energy into objects such as walls, armor, and weapons to enhance its durability, but unlike vessels, the transfer of spirit energy does not activate spells or feats. 

 Path To The Castle 

Through an arduous five decades, humanity has made thousands of steps into the future of mankind. With the power of God’s Gift at hand, they were able to swiftly push back the demonic forces to their origin, Egypt. With major nations reclaimed the millions of soldiers bearing God’s Gift make way for a singular castle at the top of a cliff overhanging the abyss. From their soldiers, each and every nation descends into its darkness to flush out the demons. 

	No matter what story you bear or how you rose against tall odds you've accepted the gift and are now pointed to Zion, the frontlines even if your mind says otherwise. You and many others are all on the path to the abyss and on this path you aren’t too sure if you will ever return to the mainland but that is the sacrifice of the warriors of God.

MECHANICS

Stats and it’s Modifiers
Your base stats are Power, Skill, and Resistance. Each of these three encompasses a larger set of actions that you will do during roleplay and each of three can represent different meanings when applied to armor, weapons, and spells/feats which are defined specifically below. Your stats are your main way of calculating your character's strength and aspects and regulates the flow of progression. As you continue down the story you will encounter major events and it ends with a number of points that you use on your ability scores. These major events are called milestones. 

Spirit on the other hand is special and dictates how many actions you can perform, like points you get a spirit from milestones and every spirit that you receive your action capacity increases by three and ends at 3. 

10-13 // + 1
13-16 // +2
16-19 // +3
19-22 // +4
22-25 // +5
 (Basically every three points you put into one of the ability scores that are above 10 you add +1 to your stats. )

Combat and Movement 

	Out and in combat, your movement does not matter at all but instead is just determined by RP responsibility. If you know your character is slow and wears iron armor then you would RP as such and vice versa. But entering combat movement does not affect you unless you have factors that do affect your movement or until you are directly attacked. 

	Your stats take effect instantly as you jump into battle, automatically being set into a turn-based scenario and following turns that are set by the GM. In combat, Power, Skill, and Resistance all determine how you take and dodge attacks. You do three main actions in combat, first, you must choose a spell or feat and then roll for its power (d20) which relates to its damage output and then skill (d6) which determines if the spell/feat hits!

 You do not roll for resistance because you are not taking damage, the defender is. As the defender you must roll for skill (d6) and if it is lower than the attacker's skill roll you will be hit and vice versa and secondly you will roll for resistance (d10)if you take damage and then from whatever number you receive you subtract from the attacker's damage! 

	Blocking is very important and is only enabled if you have an item or spell that allows such to happen. When blocking you roll for resistance add stat and the shields/spells modifier. If you fail a block then you 

( Turn Order: Avemelle, Enemy, Healer

Turn 1

Avemelle uses Firebolt! A firebolt hurls towards, Enemy! 
Rolls : P(power):  12+5 = 17 || S: 3+3= 6 (wearing cloth robes) |

Enemy
Rolls : S: 4-4= 0 (wearing iron armor) R: 2-3 = -1 (negatives add onto the assailant’s attacks! )

Avemelle does not miss and deals 17 damage and applies a  -1 resistance every two turns 

	Enemy Roll | R: 7 - 1 = 6 (Enemy Health: 77 )

Enemy performs Barrage! 
Rolls | P:  14 + 4 = 18 || S: 6-3 = 3 

Avemelle
Rolls | S: 0+3= 3 || R: 7-5 = 3

(In cases where both the assailant and defender get the same roll, both have to roll for resistance but with no modifier. )
Avemelle : 5, Enemy: 7 
Enemy does not miss and deals 15 damage! ( Avemelle : 35/50 )

Healer casts Healing Light A ray of lights shines down onto Avemelle. 
Rolls |S: 3+2 =5 (wearing leather wear ) || +10R 

(Since the Healer isn’t being explicitly attacked or attacking they do not have to roll resistance or power. But since the healers spell is a healing spell, the person affected has to roll for resistance and then add the effect. Armor modifiers do not apply )

Avemelle rolls | R: 6 

Healer successfully casts Healing Light and Avemlle regains 16H! (Avemelle : 50/50 )

TURN 2 

Avemelle uses Earthen Spikes! A barrage of spikes rises from the ground hurdling towards, Enemy! 
Rolls | P: 17 + 4 = 20! || S: 4 +3 = 6 || 

Enemy
Rolls| S: 2-3 = 0 || R: 6+4 = 10 ||

Avemelle deals 10 damage to Enemy! (Enemy : 67/10 ) 

While under an affliction you can put it out and then attack! 

Enemy Roll || R: 6 // Avemelle || R: 4 ) Enemy successfully puts out affliction! 

(Because the assailant is casting a buff that does not deal damage they only roll for skill! )
Enemy casts Rope Web! Enemy throws a ball of rope towards Healer! 
Roll: S: 6-3 = 3 // Healer Roll || S: 0+2 = 2 

Healer is caught in a net! 

Enemy attacks slashes at Healer with Iron Sword!
Rolls || P: 14+3 = 17 || S: 4-3+2= 3

Healer Rolls || S: 3+2-5 = 0 // R: 7-2 = 5
(-5 is due to the debuff, Enemy casted! )

Enemy strikes the Healer! (Healer :38/50 )

Healer uses Healing Light with wooden staff on themselves!! 
Rolls | S: 4+2 = 6 || 10R+ → R: 7+3 (wooden staff) = 10+10 =20 
(Because a vessel is being used its power modifier translates into the healing spells resistance! )
Healer regains 20 health! (Healer: 50 )

END OF TURN 2!

Magic, Feats, Weapons, and Actions

	Magic and Feats are your abilities and you will use these in the course of combat. Your magic and feats cause damage and add to your power ability score. Spells and feats can also inflict status effects that can cause damage over time. The modifier you’ve set for your spell or feat will also be the damage that the defender will take and will have to roll for resistance (d10 ) for however long the affliction goes. When afflicted you have a chance to remove the affliction if the enemies spell specifically says so. 

	Healing and buffing are special types of spells/feats that roll completely differently compared to spells and feats. Healing requires a resistance roll (d10) and the healing spells modifier (resistance) and after adding both the roll and the spell modifier you add it onto the character's health. Buffing and debuffing can affect all or a singular ability score, buffing/debuffing simply adds or subtracts from the users base stats. 

	Your spells and feats are managed by actions that are determined by the amount of spirit you have. At the beginning, you have one spirit which gives you three actions to use. Your actions are used up once you use a magic/feat which determines how many actions it takes. After using up an action you must wait a turn to regain it. 

	While actions can be regained if you are marked with, fatigued by the GM you will be extremely slowed and any attack after will fail. You can get out fatigue by escaping combat by using a skill roll or resting for a determined amount of time. 

Barrage! : User gets up close and throws a barrage of punches towards the target. 
REQ:: P: 15 || S: 14 || R: 0 [] E: +4 Power

Earthen Spikes! : User summons a barrage of spikes from the ground towards the target.
REQ:: P: 14 || S: 12 || R: 0 [] E: +3 Power

Firebolt! : Forms a ball of fire into your hand and launches towards the enemy. (
REQ:: P: 10 || S: 10 || R: 0 [] A: 1 [] E: +2 Power, -1R (over two rounds ) (If defender attempts to put out fire both the assailant and defender will role resistance. )

Healing Light! : You call out to God and from above rays of light shine onto your ally.
REQ:: P: 10 || S: 10 || R: 0 [] A: 1 [] E: +10 Resistance 

Rope Web! : A ball of rope hurls towards the target unfolding revealing a web-like net that wraps around the enemy. 
REQ:: P:10 || S:14|| R: 0 [] A: 1 [] E: -5 Skill, (lasts for two rounds), both have to roll for resistance if the defender attempts to break binds. ) 

When creating a spell you can be extremely creative! Go wild with the effects of a spell and don’t be scared to force other players to roll for ability, as long as it relates to the spell and isn’t overpowered you will be fine!

	Aside from abilities you also have basic attacks that aren’t determined by action use and can always be used in combat. Instead, your basic attacks will be modified by your weapons stats which use Power and Skill. Power determines how much damage the weapon deals and Skill for a weapon determines how heavy it is. 
	Using items is also prevalent amongst spiritual users when using a vessel. Vessels physically do not add onto power if it is being used for a basic attack, but! If it is used for a spell it is modified by its power. The power modifier affects all types of spells. 

Iron Sword
Stats:: P: +3|| S: +2
( An Iron sword is moderate and fairly light. )

Iron Greatsword
Stats:: P: +5 || S: -2
(A greatsword has incredible power but is heavy. )

Wooden Bow
Stats:: P+ 3 || S: +2
(Uses arrows and is very lightweight. )

Vessels work differently as they have two different types of Power Rolls. If the user uses the staff without casting it has 0 additional power, but if cast with a spell it adds onto the spells power modifier
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Wooden Staff
Stats:: P: 2 || S: +1
(A wooden staff is a magical vessel but in physical terms a stick. While lightweight it does not do anything to provide for aim. )

Magical Book 
Stats:: P: 2 || S: +1
(Another magical vessel does no major damage as it is a book. Lightweight. 

Small Rock 
Stats:: P: 0 || S: +1 
( A rock. Small. )

Armor

Directly affects your resistance, skill, and occasionally power if you wear enchanted armor. Like a modifier, you add/subtract from your resistance and skill depending on what you’re wearing. Wearing armor really only matters if you’re in combat and out of combat you will simply roleplay the armors weight, mobility, and so forth. 

Ex,  
An armor set is compiled of 5 pieces; Head, Chest, Arms/Shoulder, Gloves, and Legs. 

Cloth Robes
S: +3 || R: -5

Leather Wear
S: +2 || R: -2

(Occasionally you will find or receive the part or set of an armor, you can either do them separately or mix them together as one. )

Iron Chestplate :
S: -1 || R: +1

Iron Boots :
S: -1 || R: + 1

Iron Chestplate and Boots
S: -2 || R: +2

Iron Armor 
S: -5 || R: +5

To The Depth's is a dungeon crawler type roleplay with its themes leaning towards more of that classic-RPG feel and a somewhat Dark Souls-like aesthetic. For this roleplay, I intend to have at least some sort of system that includes dice for the character sheets and combat. While not entirely LIKE DND it will have some very simplified elements that resemble it.

While very bare-bones I do intend on adding bits of information as I come up with them later on today and the days to come with information such as races, magic, and things like that. The dumps of information should completely be finished by either Sunday or Monday. 

I'm not the best writer, grammatically speaking, or the best person with numbers so if you'd like to help out with some of the writing or the setup with the DND aspects please hit me up with a PM! 

I do hope that many of you will join me on this new adventure! 

Thank you!

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I'm interested to see where you take this. I can never get my fill of dnd-esque roleplays. Can you tell us any more about plot?

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@JabberwockyJust updated! More is coming! ^^

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I'm a sucker for premises like this. Consider me interested!

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@Hawthorne Thank you! I'm writing more details as we speak regarding The Gifts and the various types of races that will be present in the RP!

I think from the way I'm writing up all the lore, character sheets will most likely be last along with the fundamental systems that'll be working around the RP. 

I am going to take a lot of my time working on the systems so that no one is confused if you or anyone else has any ideas regarding Character Sheets and Combat please let me know! ^^ 

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Update for the first post! ^^

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Looks good! Does this mean Magic did not exist until Gifts were bestowed upon humanity? Or did Magic exist before Gifts did? How does "Divine" magic work?

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@Hawthorne The gifts are essentially magic and they came about once god gave them to humanity. And on the context of the different types of magic, there are some that do come from different types of 'planes' but I'll go a little more in-depth on that soon. And specifically on Divine Magic it may be that the gift allows their user to pull some energies from the Heavenly realm (where God resides ) and like classical RPG's light, healing, or Divine Magic tends to be more potent against undead or vampires. 

I'm currently writing up specifications on physical distortions and more nuanced description of the gift's 

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Forgive my absence I'm gonna post the updates for the systems and such today I promise yall that!!

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Ooh, I quite like the sound of this. Been looking for a more traditional RP.

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Forgive my absence I've been working on re-writes for the roleplay's lore. I'm specifically having trouble with the implementation of gifts and how it's going to work in combat. 

So I would like to ask you all of whom is interested, for your opinion.

What do you think is the best route to take for this roleplay's combat? What would be more interesting and fun that you would like to see translated into this roleplay? 

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Interested! I'm afraid I dunno that much about stat/dice systems, so I'm not sure how to answer your questions, but I'm interested to see where this goes.

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Yay! I'm so glad that you're interested @Luminosity hopefully whatever decision we or I make it'll benefit us all.

Also! I'm glad to announce that I've finally gone through the block that I've been blinded by, which was the spiritual category of gift users. I hope ya'll like its setup and if not please give me suggestions! 

After this, updates should be flying by I am already working on the character sheets and stat setup! 

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Forgive my absence I've been working on re-writes for the roleplay's lore. I'm specifically having trouble with the implementation of gifts and how it's going to work in combat. 

So I would like to ask you all of whom is interested, for your opinion.

What do you think is the best route to take for this roleplay's combat? What would be more interesting and fun that you would like to see translated into this roleplay? 

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While I do quite like stat systems and combat, I'd recommend keeping it simple, whenever possible. The more complex the rules end up becoming, the less intuitive it usually becomes. That being said, having some idea of how combat and stats work can go a long way to making sure RP runs smoothly. If I may recommend a simple system that has worked wonders on similar "Tabletop-lite RPs", it would be something I used to play on another forum.

Within this RP you are given 5 stats Strength [STR], Defense [DEF], Dexterity [DEX], Intelligence [INT] and Magic [MAG].

You start with 10 points to split between these stats to spend however you wish

(Ex. STR:5, DEF:2, DEX:1, INT: 1, MAG: 1).

Points are awarded after defeating monsters, completing missions, and other such things. Extra points are awarded for good Roleplaying.

A 1 in any given stat is human average, 2 in any given stat denotes above average skill and 3 or more in any stat designates a particularly refined skill.

Of course, what the numbers are and what they mean can be tweaked slightly to suit your needs, but this way, you can tell whether or not your character is physically stronger than another character or monster. There also used to be Skills, Spells, and Powers that could edit your stats. For example, the Swordsmanship Skill improved your STR and DEX by 1, but only when you were wielding a sword. Players could make any skills they liked, so long as the skill in question was approved.

Skills

First Aid: You are taught in the way of medicines, with this skill you are adept enough to forage medicinal herbs to cure a number of minor ailments and generally just patch up your patients. At higher INT levels you begin to get a better understanding of how to minimize recovery times. At INT 10+ you can complete complex surgeries.

Swordsmanship: Taught from a young age, you have mastered the way of the blade. When handling a sword you are familiar with your STR and DEX are treated as 1 point higher each.

Defender: Trained with a shield, your Defenses are greatly increased depending on the type of shield wielded in battle. (+1 DEF for a shield, +2 for a tower Shield, +? for an enchanted shield)

Rage: [STR 3+] When wounded or taunted you may enter a blinding rage. Your INT is treated as - and your STR is treated as 4 points higher.

Stealth: [DEX 3+] You become the shadows. You are very adept at sneaking around and disguising yourself.

Unnatural Breath Weapon: [MAG 2+] Somehow you have learned or inherited the ability to use a breath weapon of Flames, Ice, Air, Light or Dark.

Spells

Unlike Skills, you have a limited number of spells per rest (meals or rests). This of course, may be subject to change.

Magic Missile: [Req. MAG 1+] The most basic of attacks, your magical skill is transmuted into a physical blast, usually of an element you have a particular affinity towards. (Power is determined by your MAG skill, accuracy determined by your INT.) You can pick one type of elemental blast and another for every multiple of 5 MAG you reach [2 at 5MAG, 3types at 10MAG..]

Deflect: [Req. MAG 1+] So long as this spell is cast at a higher MAG level than an opponent's Spell, you can negate all effects of that spell. This spell costs 2 spells uses.

Ghost sound: [Req. MAG 1+] User can create sounds as if throwing their voices, limited to mimicking simple sounds or your own voice, but with a higher MAG stat can be used in more complex ways.

Mage Hand: [Req. MAG 1+] Like a limited range Telekinesis, lets the caster lift around 2.5kgs using their mind. Handy for retrieving small objects without ever needing to get up.

Detect Magic: [Req. MAG 2+] Using your own magic you can determine whether there is powerful magic nearby. Higher MAG allows for better accuracy of type and location.

Summoning Circles: [Req. MAG: 2+, A pentacle drawn in chalk, blood, or salt] You have mastered the art of summoning and trapping through pentacles. You can Summon a small fiend to do your bidding or trap a being in a circle for 10 minutes times your MAG stat. The Pentacle takes 1 minute to draw per 10 minutes it will last, it can be cast at a lower MAG level]

Heal (Choose Divine or Nature): [Req. MAG: 2+] Utilizing magic of a Holy or Druidic nature, you can restore a target to a more energetic state. Divine Healing calls upon the wishes of a higher order, be it a particular deity or just the collective power of a cult. Divine Healing can cure the negative effects of some dark magics, depending on the skill level of the user.
Druidic Healing calls forth the power of nature to cure disease and refresh targets, it can even be utilized through medicine.
Both types can heal all minor ailments but only Divine can cure major curses and only Nature can heal deadly poisons without an antidote. [This barrier is broken at MAG 10+]

And so on and so forth. Of course, this is just a suggestion, so if you decide to use your own system, that's no problem for me. Otherwise, do feel free to ask if you need more information regarding this system. Regardless, I'm excited to see what you cook up!

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You have my interest. I’d also agree with the above, for these kinds of things keeping it as simple tends to work. I’d even go so far as to say just making a very basic skeleton of a system with only the things you know will be used a lot included and then just improvising the specifics as you go for whatever else comes up is a perfectly valid way to do things. If you want something more concrete than that though I've got some ideas.

Everything is broken into Stats, Checks, and Abilities. I'm too tired to write this idea out properly so think D&D to get an idea of how stats and checks would work. 
Stats: I’d merge Intelligence and Wisdom into one Mind stat, add a Spirit stat for magic, and remove charisma entirely because that can just be roleplayed out. 
Strength: Physical output.
Toughness: Ability to take a hit and stamina.
Dexterity: Fine motor skills and agility, maybe those should be split into two different stats.
Mind: Essentially the character's intelligence and wisdom, as well as anything else solely within there, mind that isn't their memories or personality.
Spirit: Magical strength and capacity.

Abilities: Players would specify a number abilities which are passive or active abilities they have that distinguish them from average people. This includes the good and the bad as well as both mundane abilities and those resulting from. These could be things as non-specific as the circumstances of the character's background, but the less specific the less the bonus.
Light Bearer: Thanks to a gift they can produce small balls of light from their hands and move them about at will.
Stealthy: They are good at hiding and moving about unnoticed.
Bad Hearing: An accident years ago left them deaf in one ear.
Former Sailor: Has spent years out at sea where they picked up a number of useful tricks for adventuring.

Checks: Checks are a number that is rolled against with a relevant stat modifier applied. DC for any given check is determined by how hard it would be for a normal person (maybe something like, Trivial: 5>, Easy: 6-10, Normal: 11-15, Hard: 16-20, Very Hard: 21-30, Impossible: 30+), and modified by whatever circumstances are relevant to the check as well as the player in questions abilities. 
Climbing a Cliff Face:  DC 22 Strength Check; Adjusted DC: 17
Modifier – Plenty of Hands Holds: -5
Modifier – In a Storm: +5 DC
Player Ability – Former Sailor: Has climbed in far worse storms at sea. Negates penalty from storm.

Checks should only be made if it’s reasonable for it to have a chance at working (e.g. a peasant trying to stab a trained fighter is fine despite the low odds, but that same peasant trying to perform brain surgery without training is automatically going to fail). Likewise, the opposite is true when a check could not reasonably be failed. Additionally, things where there shouldn't be any variability in result based on specified actions should not be rolled for. 
Auto Fail – Untrained Brain Surgery: Under no feasible circumstances could this ever be at all successful even if theoretically possible, certainly not as a 5% chance.
Auto Success – Assassination: Slitting the throat of someone that is unaware and unable to defend themselves. No reasonable chance at failure assuming no other factors. Checks may still need to be made for secondary functions, such as doing it quietly.
No Check – Discussion: Many discussions shouldn't require checks. Results should instead be based on the personalities of the participants and their reactions to what specifically has been said.

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You have my interest. I’d also agree with the above, for these kinds of things keeping it as simple tends to work. I’d even go so far as to say just making a very basic skeleton of a system with only the things you know will be used a lot included and then just improvising the specifics as you go for whatever else comes up is a perfectly valid way to do things. If you want something more concrete than that though I've got some ideas.

Everything is broken into Stats, Checks, and Abilities. I'm too tired to write this idea out properly so think D&D to get an idea of how stats and checks would work. 
Stats: I’d merge Intelligence and Wisdom into one Mind stat, add a Spirit stat for magic, and remove charisma entirely because that can just be roleplayed out. 
Strength: Physical output.
Toughness: Ability to take a hit and stamina.
Dexterity: Fine motor skills and agility, maybe those should be split into two different stats.
Mind: Essentially the character's intelligence and wisdom, as well as anything else solely within there, mind that isn't their memories or personality.
Spirit: Magical strength and capacity.

Abilities: Players would specify a number abilities which are passive or active abilities they have that distinguish them from average people. This includes the good and the bad as well as both mundane abilities and those resulting from. These could be things as non-specific as the circumstances of the character's background, but the less specific the less the bonus.
Light Bearer: Thanks to a gift they can produce small balls of light from their hands and move them about at will.
Stealthy: They are good at hiding and moving about unnoticed.
Bad Hearing: An accident years ago left them deaf in one ear.
Former Sailor: Has spent years out at sea where they picked up a number of useful tricks for adventuring.

Checks: Checks are a number that is rolled against with a relevant stat modifier applied. DC for any given check is determined by how hard it would be for a normal person (maybe something like, Trivial: 5>, Easy: 6-10, Normal: 11-15, Hard: 16-20, Very Hard: 21-30, Impossible: 30+), and modified by whatever circumstances are relevant to the check as well as the player in questions abilities. 
Climbing a Cliff Face:  DC 22 Strength Check; Adjusted DC: 17
Modifier – Plenty of Hands Holds: -5
Modifier – In a Storm: +5 DC
Player Ability – Former Sailor: Has climbed in far worse storms at sea. Negates penalty from storm.

Checks should only be made if it’s reasonable for it to have a chance at working (e.g. a peasant trying to stab a trained fighter is fine despite the low odds, but that same peasant trying to perform brain surgery without training is automatically going to fail). Likewise, the opposite is true when a check could not reasonably be failed. Additionally, things where there shouldn't be any variability in result based on specified actions should not be rolled for. 
Auto Fail – Untrained Brain Surgery: Under no feasible circumstances could this ever be at all successful even if theoretically possible, certainly not as a 5% chance.
Auto Success – Assassination: Slitting the throat of someone that is unaware and unable to defend themselves. No reasonable chance at failure assuming no other factors. Checks may still need to be made for secondary functions, such as doing it quietly.
No Check – Discussion: Many discussions shouldn't require checks. Results should instead be based on the personalities of the participants and their reactions to what specifically has been said.
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I quite like this, myself. In the RPs that I used to play in, we eschewed difficulty checks completely and let players just RP things as they decided, using their stats and skills as a reference. In this case though, I wouldn't be opposed to rolls when done like this.

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Thank you for both of you suggestions I will be taking them both into account as I create the system and the character sheets! I appreciate the help and I hope everyone can do the same! ^^

Aside from that, not much else is in my way, after this post, I'll be updating the final part of the gifts section which is the addition of the physical description and then it'll just be a light explanation of the setting and who your character is and thereafter will be the space detailing the system and sheets! 

Everything should be ready by Wednesday! ^^ And if not around midnight ;p 

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Some major changes I ended up making were the removal of distortions which would've been the explanation for races though I can still add it in if ya'll would like a variety of humanoids to play as! 

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Hi. Also interested.

You have my interest. I’d also agree with the above, for these kinds of things keeping it as simple tends to work. I’d even go so far as to say just making a very basic skeleton of a system with only the things you know will be used a lot included and then just improvising the specifics as you go for whatever else comes up is a perfectly valid way to do things. If you want something more concrete than that though I've got some ideas.

Everything is broken into Stats, Checks, and Abilities. I'm too tired to write this idea out properly so think D&D to get an idea of how stats and checks would work. 
Stats: I’d merge Intelligence and Wisdom into one Mind stat, add a Spirit stat for magic, and remove charisma entirely because that can just be roleplayed out. 
Strength: Physical output.
Toughness: Ability to take a hit and stamina.
Dexterity: Fine motor skills and agility, maybe those should be split into two different stats.
Mind: Essentially the character's intelligence and wisdom, as well as anything else solely within there, mind that isn't their memories or personality.
Spirit: Magical strength and capacity.

Abilities: Players would specify a number abilities which are passive or active abilities they have that distinguish them from average people. This includes the good and the bad as well as both mundane abilities and those resulting from. These could be things as non-specific as the circumstances of the character's background, but the less specific the less the bonus.
Light Bearer: Thanks to a gift they can produce small balls of light from their hands and move them about at will.
Stealthy: They are good at hiding and moving about unnoticed.
Bad Hearing: An accident years ago left them deaf in one ear.
Former Sailor: Has spent years out at sea where they picked up a number of useful tricks for adventuring.

Checks: Checks are a number that is rolled against with a relevant stat modifier applied. DC for any given check is determined by how hard it would be for a normal person (maybe something like, Trivial: 5>, Easy: 6-10, Normal: 11-15, Hard: 16-20, Very Hard: 21-30, Impossible: 30+), and modified by whatever circumstances are relevant to the check as well as the player in questions abilities. 
Climbing a Cliff Face:  DC 22 Strength Check; Adjusted DC: 17
Modifier – Plenty of Hands Holds: -5
Modifier – In a Storm: +5 DC
Player Ability – Former Sailor: Has climbed in far worse storms at sea. Negates penalty from storm.

Checks should only be made if it’s reasonable for it to have a chance at working (e.g. a peasant trying to stab a trained fighter is fine despite the low odds, but that same peasant trying to perform brain surgery without training is automatically going to fail). Likewise, the opposite is true when a check could not reasonably be failed. Additionally, things where there shouldn't be any variability in result based on specified actions should not be rolled for. 
Auto Fail – Untrained Brain Surgery: Under no feasible circumstances could this ever be at all successful even if theoretically possible, certainly not as a 5% chance.
Auto Success – Assassination: Slitting the throat of someone that is unaware and unable to defend themselves. No reasonable chance at failure assuming no other factors. Checks may still need to be made for secondary functions, such as doing it quietly.
No Check – Discussion: Many discussions shouldn't require checks. Results should instead be based on the personalities of the participants and their reactions to what specifically has been said.
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I also think this is pretty good. I'd suggest precision and agility as a split of dexterity so every archer isn't also a ninja and also so spell-casters can be distinguished between "i indiscriminately set the entire room on fire" and "i make that specific demons head explode"

The only awkwardness I see is are physical spirit gifts defined mostly by the individual stats they'd logically enhance or by spirit. For example, is a straight forward super strength gift represented in the stats by strength or by spirit? 

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Ah! I also saw this for my base idea of the stats It would be separated by

Constitution
Dexterity
Strength
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Intelligence
Wisdom [ Questionable ]

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And then Spirit, practically the mana of both gifts. The main problem is figuring out a secondary ability score that ISN'T spirit as it also factors in all the ability scores. Frankly, I have no idea what use I have for the wisdom ability score as that sort of relates to divinity type magic or holy magic, and essentially all types of feats and spellcasting are innately holy. 

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