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War. War never changes.

Men - certainly - may, through the roads and trials they tribulate. And if the society of old is naught more than the collection of the will of Man, then by some rightful thought we may possess the inkling to suggest that the horrors of the wasteland have, perhaps, made us emerge stronger. Better? Wiser? More intelligent? More acute? Perhaps not, but, barring these inclusions, certainly...stronger.

But alas, to seek strength for strength itself - to grow for the sake of growth - is the ideology of a cancer, and the sun-blasted rays of the wastes may thoroughly irradiate all tumors away from the land...or, perhaps, have only emboldened their growths.

Which of these is more true? Well...peradventure, it is our duty as chroniclers to decide for ourselves.



So, after two other attempts at a Fallout Nation RP - the monumental first thread, and the fatefully incomplete revival last year - a few of us around Discord have gotten around to the idea of trying to reboot one of our favorite settings in fiction into a fully-realized nation roleplay. We know for a fact that there's more to it than just us few asking around in our little circle, and to that I say, welcome!

That being dismissed, there were some things to be said about where we should take the RP in question to both avoid the errors of past iterations of this roleplay, as well as to set down a few rules that we would like to more firmly establish beforehand.


Setting:

Okay, yes, let's just get this out of the way. I love New Vegas. I love Fallout 2. I even love Van Buren's unfinished design docs. I'm a West Coast fanboy through and through and i'm not going to even attempt to keep it hidden. Even so, it's a point worth bringing up:

We've talked about this over Discord and we more-or-less all are in agreement that we really should just pick one coast and stick to it, instead of doing what we've done previously and just trying to cover the entire continental North America with most people in the wastes being (generously) capable of foot and horse travel. So, with all this being said, as per "Session Zero", everyone really should cast in their vote as to whether they prefer the East Coast or the West Coast (or even something else?).


Time Period:

Again, similar sort of thing to the Setting question. Putting it after the events of Fallout 4 (2290 onwards) gives you some more freedom, but means that both there has to be an agreed canon established for the games, and the steady advance of civilization makes it more difficult to justify a lot of the "post-apocalypse" tropes; After all, people will have more time to rediscover technology, establish towns, congregate, repopulate, and organize. Setting it earlier would put the games possibly into AU territory - which i'm perfectly fine with - but again, it's something that'd need to be decided upon fairly early on.

"Expy Nations":

But you know what
Any new WNC must have a moratorium on LARPer nations outside of the khans and legion
Fuck your stupid samurai or epic prussia in the wastelans
Shoehorning in some culture into America's post war is a cancer of creative bankruptcy
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Outside of a few exceptions with pre-established factions (I.E. The Shi, Legion, etc.), I think this is a fairly honest request to be made. I get that Fallout has its share of wacky stuff to it, but please try not to go overboard on it.


Well, with all that established, I hope that everyone takes a good gander at this, and hopefully we can get this ball rolling!
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LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Edit: West Coast
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Interested. Could I have dibs on the Commonwealth?

Thus, I vote for the east worst coast.
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Interested. Could I have dibs on the Commonwealth?


I'll take it this is you casting in your vote for East Coast?

Edit: Looks like I was right
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I'll throw my hat in for the east coast.
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Interested. Could I have dibs on the Commonwealth?

Thus, I vote for the east worst coast.


I called dibs on Discord first, dang you! XD

Course we could figure it all out later too. All is chill. Yam told me "fight fight fight" over Discord, lol.

@Yam I Am Speaking of: Am I doing this "fight fight fight" thing right, boss? :P

I also vote for whole nation scale! Mwuahahahaha.

Also voting West Coast.
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Definitely ready to roll with this. I'll vote East Coast.
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I'm interested and I vote East Coast
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Never played a nation RP, what makes it different from say, Casual or Advance RPs ?
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Will we be allowed to play individual characters or organizations a la PoW, or is this strictly nations?

Also, what's included in west/east coast, or would you prefer to keep that up in the air for now?
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Never played a nation RP, what makes it different from say, Casual or Advance RPs ?


I would say a focus on a nation being a character vs. an individual. Although it's told in the form of individual characters, of which there are multiple people doing things that form a country's actions. Take a look at some of my posts where I have Mexico written out in PoW and France written out in NEO. It'll make more sense that way.

I play different characters from all over, not necessarily describing the country in a neutral third party perspective.
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I'm actually looking this over now, but you know I'm interested in an actual Fallout campaign.

EDIT: Chances are, I'd probably represent something weird or outlandish that totally fits in with Fallout. If I can't think of something suitable for the occasion, though, I would request to run my version of the Enclave (You know they're not dead.), the same verson that I used in a campaign that lasted a good three years on another board, which plays up the Wild Wasteland trait. (Original flavor of this stems from Fort Knox, but I can adapt.)
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Just for everyone's public awareness since there is a smattering of folks not on the Discord (and to reduce future confusion), I am tentatively going to play New York City as a city-state.
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I'm likewise primarily looking at a Chinese AI planted in the US to hijack American robots during the Anchorage Campaign/war with the US. Location is tentative, but probably a major US military facility with the requisite computing power.
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Well I will say my intention was a semi nomadic army of supermutants aiming to either cure their mutation and be human again, or alternatively make life as a supermutant bearable by fixing the stupidity and sterility typical of their kind.
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For my plans with the Commonwealth, I plan on doing the Minutemen ending where the Sole Survivor kills off the Institute and Brotherhood of Steel. Preston Garvey and Sole Survivor hate each other. And the Sole Survivor is still around.
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When it comes to canon game endings, isn't the idea more that we're gonna do decide on that as a community, or am I mistaken?
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@Yam I Am

On a serious note, I won't actually try to gun for getting the Commonwealth. Was just really being silly on my end. Mao Mao got it fair and square.

However, I do want to seriously submit my interest and strongly desired claim for the Capital Wasteland.
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For my plans with the Commonwealth, I plan on doing the Minutemen ending where the Sole Survivor kills off the Institute and Brotherhood of Steel. Preston Garvey and Sole Survivor hate each other. And the Sole Survivor is still around.


Oh, don't worry. Totally canon. I get the vibes that Preston hates the player character and is trying to get him to fuck off and go away every time in FO4.
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When it comes to canon game endings, isn't the idea more that we're gonna do decide on that as a community, or am I mistaken?


Yeah, I think that would be best done if we all decided it together. Now granted, I frankly don't expect some endings to really matter too much - especially if we end up going East Coast - but the principle of the matter should still be in the hands of everyone involved.
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