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I'm still here.

A few things popped up that were distracting me. I'm working on a character concept :P
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This isn't for me, i wish ya the best of luck on it tho 👍
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Too nitpicky for my taste, good luck on it, I'm sure it'll be fun for others. 👍


This isn't for me, i wish ya the best of luck on it tho 👍


I didn't mean to nitpick you into leaving the RP, Like Odd said the backstory doesn't need to be 100% right this second.

However if you truly don't want to put any more effort into reading the lore and developing a character that fits it I suggest sticking to the Free Roleplay section of the site.

This is Casual Roleplay where its expected to produce 1 or 2 paragraphs per post. Id expect at least that much in a backstory before its considered complete.
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I'm still here.

A few things popped up that were distracting me. I'm working on a character concept :P


All good! I suspect most of our players will be trickling in over the weekend when people have free time.

No need to rush anything! :)
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I didn't mean to nitpick you into leaving the RP, Like Odd said the backstory doesn't need to be 100% right this second.

However if you truly don't want to put any more effort into reading the lore and developing a character that fits it I suggest sticking to the Free Roleplay section of the site.

This is Casual Roleplay where its expected to produce 1 or 2 paragraphs per post. Id expect at least that much in a backstory before its considered complete.


Whoa whoa bro, I play in casual , so no reason to go low with the free comment especially after i said good luck and all , the backstory wasn't the problem of why i am dropping.
Leaving on a friendly terms, lets just leave it at that. 🤘
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I hope you luck out there in finding a roleplay that better fits you and thank you for the wishes back!!!
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Everything in the biography looks amazing! Though, I would like to mention that Asmus and Tenna the 'creators' of civilization. Tenna was actually a female. I know this isn't specified at all, but I would like to clear things up because you are deriving from one of the important people in history!

Plus, I think in the future when I think through it enough. We will be having a PM conversation about your character and maybe the way they can help the rebellion against the Altas government if that sounds fun!

With all said, after you make the minor changes, you can put your character right into the character section! congratulations!
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Hahaha, lool. I fucked up. :P

Hmm,

In order to keep the surname. Perhaps her husband took her name?

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Hahaha, lool. I fucked up. :P

Hmm,

In order to keep the surname. Perhaps her husband took her name?


Nah, you're all good! I should have specified genders, but I didn't actually think somebody was going to want to be a descendant, haha.

I feel like that is very reasonable especially in a more modern society at the time and situation.

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I feel like a guy who married one of the 'creators' of the Atlas would rather take her name versus his, because everyone would know them.
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Everything in the biography looks amazing! Though, I would like to mention that Asmus and Tenna the 'creators' of civilization. Tenna was actually a female. I know this isn't specified at all, but I would like to clear things up because you are deriving from one of the important people in history!

Plus, I think in the future when I think through it enough. We will be having a PM conversation about your character and maybe the way they can help the rebellion against the Altas government if that sounds fun!

With all said, after you make the minor changes, you can put your character right into the character section! congratulations!


Just spotted that. I'd very much love to play a part in the rebellion. :3
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I wouldn't say that at all, Emeth. There are no need for such words, I was just politely telling you that in the lore, surface dwellers do not have the information, skills, or means to be advanced with technology like the Atlas civilization. The character idea you came up with is completely fine. The backstory/recent events would not be able to correlate with each other.


I mean. Maybe it was just a weird server error, but I saw an image of, I guess, what looked to me like WoW universe OCs, a red devil-looking girl and a green guy, in a western comic style—no overly cutesy faces or any grossly exaggerated body proportions though, so I thought maybe that might be more of what you meant by "anime," and took a chance that something with a grittier mood might be accepted, even if the art style shared the namesake. It did look out of place, which is why I asked about it. I see what I assume is the correct image now.

You didn't give me an "oops, wrong image" or anything in your response, and I wasn't sure how to take that other than an emphatic "oh my god weeb trash alert, ew no, let me change the rules really quick." The third image is probably the least realistic of the three, but still considerably more detailed than what I put forward, so now I just look like an idiot, and... yeah. It seemed like a lost cause to try to defend any of my ideas. If "cloudinary" (never heard of that hosting site) pulled a fast one on me, I apologize for the sass.

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Yes I do believe this qualifies as anime. I think Odd would prefer more drawn out facial features so we actually know what the face looks like. That being said, I could totally see the bodyguard for officials being a thing however maybe instead of body integral weapons youre just programed to be good at using weapons? also... instead of being rescued by resistance or whatever that case may be. Maybe you just gained consciousness and decided to leave? (Because you knew as well as them, they couldnt stop you) yknow?


If body integral weapons are a problem for story reasons, like it needs to be possible for her weapons to get taken away, that's possible and we can work that out. If it helps, I did imagine her as more of a mechanical, "primitive model" whose armaments could be disabled or broken by sticks and stones if they were shoved in the right joints with enough force. On the plus side, her arm mechanisms would be primitive enough that surface dwellers could repair them—her brain, not so much. I'd want her to feel out of her element on the surface, handling surface weapons—like her arms could be disabled, someone hands her a bow and arrow and she's like "uh... what am I supposed to do with this?" I think that being a cyborg with heavy metal arms already gives her a huge advantage, so making her good with weapons in general (thank you for reminding me of the Jackie Chan ladder fight) is too much of a good thing. Filling those arms with weapons that can get jammed, twisted off, waterlogged, or just plain overheat when used too much gives me a bit more confidence in saying "yeah, this is balanced."

Following on that point about feeling out of place, I did want her to look at least a little inhuman at first glance; not uncanny valley terrifying, but just enough questionable features (white hair, red eyes, too-perfect face for example) that surface dwellers would know that she's not human and distrust her at first, even if she were dressed like one of them. Thought a "grittier" anime style might provide just enough of that effect, but now that we're here, try this on for size instead:



A fully artificial being suddenly becoming sentient would probably have a lot of explaining to do! By cyborg, I meant that she is part cybernetic, part organism. Imagine something at least somewhat human-looking on the outside, like the cast of Metal Gear Rising, but more mechanically primitive on the inside, like General Grievous from Star Wars Episode III. She used to be a normal person, once—possibly a terminally ill patient who hastily agreed to become what she did to go on living in some capacity, while her poor family receives a pittance in exchange for her service, her brain and some choice organs. As for why they wouldn't just make an android with a system that runs 100% on artificial intelligence, maybe this is a cheaper option, or maybe some powerful people are just sick and enjoy the thought that they have complete control over something that used to be a person with free will.

When I say she was rescued by activists, I didn't mean surface dwellers, but some "free the cyborgs" type people from below. If such a group doesn't exist, or aren't capable of disabling and kidnapping a cyborg, I'm fine with the receiver in her brain or whatever was controlling her having a factory defect, and my girl just casually playing it cool until she saw a chance to escape. I chose the deprogramming angle so that she could lose her memories from that time along with it and not remember any forbidden story knowledge you wouldn't want her to have. So, she could at least have been in the service of someone influential and interesting, and not just some minor B-list celebrity or throwaway NPC—could probably use some ideas there, if you're fine with that.

Please let me know if she's a welcome concept now that I've cleared up some things.
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I mean. Maybe it was just a weird server error, but I saw an image of, I guess, what looked to me like WoW universe OCs, a red devil-looking girl and a green guy, in a western comic style—no overly cutesy faces or any grossly exaggerated body proportions though, so I thought maybe that might be more of what you meant by "anime," and took a chance that something with a grittier mood might be accepted, even if the art style shared the namesake. It did look out of place, which is why I asked about it. I see what I assume is the correct image now.

You didn't give me an "oops, wrong image" or anything in your response, and I wasn't sure how to take that other than an emphatic "oh my god weeb trash alert, ew no, let me change the rules really quick." The third image is probably the least realistic of the three, but still considerably more detailed than what I put forward, so now I just look like an idiot, and... yeah. It seemed like a lost cause to try to defend any of my ideas. If "cloudinary" (never heard of that hosting site) pulled a fast one on me, I apologize for the sass.

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If body integral weapons are a problem for story reasons, like it needs to be possible for her weapons to get taken away, that's possible and we can work that out. If it helps, I did imagine her as more of a mechanical, "primitive model" whose armaments could be disabled or broken by sticks and stones if they were shoved in the right joints with enough force. On the plus side, her arm mechanisms would be primitive enough that surface dwellers could repair them—her brain, not so much. I'd want her to feel out of her element on the surface, handling surface weapons—like her arms could be disabled, someone hands her a bow and arrow and she's like "uh... what am I supposed to do with this?" I think that being a cyborg with heavy metal arms already gives her a huge advantage, so making her good with weapons in general (thank you for reminding me of the Jackie Chan ladder fight) is too much of a good thing. Filling those arms with weapons that can get jammed, twisted off, waterlogged, or just plain overheat when used too much gives me a bit more confidence in saying "yeah, this is balanced."

Following on that point about feeling out of place, I did want her to look at least a little inhuman at first glance; not uncanny valley terrifying, but just enough questionable features (white hair, red eyes, too-perfect face for example) that surface dwellers would know that she's not human and distrust her at first, even if she were dressed like one of them. Thought a "grittier" anime style might provide just enough of that effect, but now that we're here, try this on for size instead:



A fully artificial being suddenly becoming sentient would probably have a lot of explaining to do! By cyborg, I meant that she is part cybernetic, part organism. Imagine something at least somewhat human-looking on the outside, like the cast of Metal Gear Rising, but more mechanically primitive on the inside, like General Grievous from Star Wars Episode III. She used to be a normal person, once—possibly a terminally ill patient who hastily agreed to become what she did to go on living in some capacity, while her poor family receives a pittance in exchange for her service, her brain and some choice organs. As for why they wouldn't just make an android with a system that runs 100% on artificial intelligence, maybe this is a cheaper option, or maybe some powerful people are just sick and enjoy the thought that they have complete control over something that used to be a person with free will.

When I say she was rescued by activists, I didn't mean surface dwellers, but some "free the cyborgs" type people from below. If such a group doesn't exist, or aren't capable of disabling and kidnapping a cyborg, I'm fine with the receiver in her brain or whatever was controlling her having a factory defect, and my girl just casually playing it cool until she saw a chance to escape. I chose the deprogramming angle so that she could lose her memories from that time along with it and not remember any forbidden story knowledge you wouldn't want her to have. So, she could at least have been in the service of someone influential and interesting, and not just some minor B-list celebrity or throwaway NPC—could probably use some ideas there, if you're fine with that.

Please let me know if she's a welcome concept now that I've cleared up some things.


It was not a glitch at all, I understood from your questioning that others would mistake such a style as anime in the future, so I went ahead to change the third reference picture to something a little more pleasing.

Also, Emeth, I hope you understand we (the staff) are not here to attack you at all. We are not going to call you names or do a ‘weeb alert’, we could care less if you are a weeb or not. We just do not allow the anime picture references in this thread because it does not fit the program, that’s all.
With your statement about ‘defend any of my ideas’, you are always welcome to do that. Like I said above, we are not here to attack you. We are here to help and guide you through the roleplay, yes we might be strict with what we want, but we are not going to bash you about it.
Yes, we will comment, we will exame, approve, and disapprove, but we are not going to high tail you out of here because we don’t fully agree with a concept you share.




About your character, she is completely fine having advanced weapons on the surface. She would just have to derive from the Atlas society (even if it was a long time ago).
The reference picture you have chosen is completely fine as well! I do like the idea of an artificial being becoming/attempting to be sentient, and I think your idea is completely fine in that way.

For your idea about the ‘free the cyborg’ activists, there could definitely be a group in the Atlas community. They are advanced enough to make, understand, reprogram, etc… such robotics.

On all your ideas, I would like to suggest a route maybe? If you do not like it, it is completely fine, but you say you want her to have weapons. She could have been an older model for the Atlas Military or mining crew. This would cause her to have weapons and this could cause the activists to want to kidnap her and reprogram her, so she is not a killing machine/guard.
Though, this could play into the story of your character having defaults in her memories about the mines, the government, etc… depending on how you want to go with it. You could either help the side of the Atlas government, the people, or escape to the surface (if you do not want to be on the surface already).
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I do think I want her to start in Atlas and end up on the surface later, yes. Probably not very happy with the government, so she'd be with the activists/rebels. If her tech is (relatively) old at the time of the RP it makes sense that even if she once served as a bodyguard for some rich guy when her tech was state-of-the-art she'd probably have been sold once something better came out, and no matter where you go it seems the military is generally not a very picky customer. Maybe her rescuers didn't even have to deprogram her, they simply caught her and a few others in transit when ownership was being transferred and just booted her up again before she could be fully reprogrammed. One day she's signing paperwork in the hospital, and the next thing she knows her heads-up display is telling her that an error has occurred: orders cannot be retrieved, report to your CO immediately.

Depending on how fast technology advances in this setting, a lot of time may have passed, do you have an opinion on that?
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I do think I want her to start in Atlas and end up on the surface later, yes. Probably not very happy with the government, so she'd be with the activists/rebels. If her tech is (relatively) old at the time of the RP it makes sense that even if she once served as a bodyguard for some rich guy when her tech was state-of-the-art she'd probably have been sold once something better came out, and no matter where you go it seems the military is generally not a very picky customer. Maybe her rescuers didn't even have to deprogram her, they simply caught her and a few others in transit when ownership was being transferred and just booted her up again before she could be fully reprogrammed. One day she's signing paperwork in the hospital, and the next thing she knows her heads-up display is telling her that an error has occurred: orders cannot be retrieved, report to your CO immediately.

Depending on how fast technology advances in this setting, a lot of time may have passed, do you have an opinion on that?


Taken from the lore section of the thread:

"Atlas/Atli the majority of these places are nicely kept and have advanced technology. They brought all their old technology down from the old world which is now referred to as the surface. The technology they did bring down is the foundation for what they have now which would be around the lines of bio-metric, laser weapon technology, artificial intelligence, robotics (similar to what they use in Avatar), wearable computers (example: Pip boy from fallout), etc..."

This is a general description of what they are capable of on a basic foundation of technology. If you want to get into a deeper thought of Sci-fi technology except underwater. I would recommend reading Sci-fi books, movies, or even reading the "Technology in Science fiction" wikipedia page for a better reference till I am able to flesh out a line!
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I do know she'd likely have some more Star Wars tier tech like laser weapons, my question was more along the lines of how quickly do they innovate in the weapons tech department? Like for example the graphics card in your computer can be significantly outdated in less than a decade. I guess what I'm trying to find out is how old should she be? I know you don't need an exact age, but I'm guessing you'd appreciate something narrower than, say, anywhere between 30 and 80 years old, lol.

So let's say there are cooler cyborg arms out there with artificial muscles, more in line with the MGR type design, how long until her buyer went "wow, the new models are way better?" Is her family still alive after all this time? That's where my head's at, in the finer details before I grab the CS and write the story version of all my ramblings.
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I do know she'd likely have some more Star Wars tier tech like laser weapons, my question was more along the lines of how quickly do they innovate in the weapons tech department? Like for example the graphics card in your computer can be significantly outdated in less than a decade. I guess what I'm trying to find out is how old should she be? I know you don't need an exact age, but I'm guessing you'd appreciate something narrower than, say, anywhere between 30 and 80 years old, lol.

So let's say there are cooler cyborg arms out there with artificial muscles, more in line with the MGR type design, how long until her buyer went "wow, the new models are way better?" Is her family still alive after all this time? That's where my head's at, in the finer details before I grab the CS and write the story version of all my ramblings.


I would say towards your reference of star wars tech like laser weapons. She is probably last generation. Which means her age would be 30 to 10 years old.

I think Atlas is just getting out of the stages of Star wars, Avatar, etc... Type of technology and they are advancing past it.
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Just to keep you all updated

My character sheet will be up by tomorrow afternoon :)
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Sounds good to me!
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