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All right. Well. I have my own form spun up here. First post to be coming sooner rather than later; any forms accepted after that point can be weaved into the story well enough, I think.

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@Mole: Form for the most part looks okay, but there are like... Two minor nitpicks I'd like to fix.
  • 'First Frame Pilot' refers to the first person who tested a Frame Gear out; any after are just called Frame Pilots (and maybe they have a fancy name for a subgroup but who knows).
  • Chi-Mechframe name... Could probably be changed a bit? As for the reason, I will refer you to the name of Hoshiko's; they're a bit too similar, and it might make things confusing for the future.


Anyways, other than that... I think the character is fine.

With that settled, it's time for me to kick the IC off. Woo.
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Hellooo~

So I see that the expectation of six characters had already been reached and the IC had started. But just in case, are you still accepting new applications?
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@Medili: Hm...

I think there's probably some leeway. Maybe that six limit should be removed or something...

...Yeah, I think you're fine if you want to apply.
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Awesome! Alright, CS coming up soon :3
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Holy guacamole. This happened every time. "I'm sure I can whip up a CS in 2 hours or so" but then I ended up taking 8 hours instead.

Anyways, sorry for lateness! Here it is ready for review. Please tell me if there's mistakes or problems to be fixed!

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@Medili: Hmmm...

All right, there are a few things that I'd like to have edited in this form...

  • Echidna to the mouth is guaranteed infection. Character would've mutated on the spot if it ended up there; you'll probably need to figure out an alternative here.
  • The longest a character could have logically trained for this in-universe is a year, and the time having the actual gear would be half that (with respect to the cast), minimum. This also sort of hurts the 'gunner' part of the skills listing by proxy, I suppose, depending on what focus the character actually places on which skills.
  • It's Chi-Mechframe, not Chi-Frame.


That... Is about it? Once edits are in, I'll take another look.
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Hi, thanks for feedback!

So to address the problems, I have done the following edit:

1. To remove the conflict with the world canon, I removed the detail about the mouth. It is now only mentioned that she got infected, without the details of how etc. This change had been given a strikethrough for ease of finding.

2. To remove the conflict with the world canon, detail about time and duration had been removed. It is now only mentioned that "eventually an offer came" and that "some time had passed since training started". This change had been given strikethroughs for ease of finding.

3. Reworked the Gunner skill. This change had been bolded for ease of finding.

4. All "Chi-Frame" had been fixed to "Chi-Mechframe".

Aaaand that's it. Please tell me if further fixes are necessary!
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@Medili: Yeah, looks fine now. Accepted.
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Awesomesauce! Thanks :3
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...not often I come onto RPGuild...been awhile too. Only reason I saw this was because it had "Mecha" in the title -__-'

Still, the concept does remind me of Monster Hunter which I'm familiar with. Still, is there any room left? Actually, are you looking for "Female" characters only or can I make a "Male"? Figured if I'm allowed to join, I should try to balance out the cast of characters thus far.
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@DarkRecon: We're still open, but honestly, if you're looking for something directly analogous to Monster Hunter or mecha series (e.g. GaoGaiGar, Gundam, etc.;), then this RP might not necessarily be the right one for you. Of course, I could probably state more clearly if I knew what exactly you might expect/want, so... Hey, I'm all ears for that.

Though, I suppose it does make sense to clarify that characters can be whichever, it's just that the given trend of the cast seemed to be leaning female (and given the mecha musume bit in the title, I suppose that makes sense anyways).
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@DarkRecon: We're still open, but honestly, if you're looking for something directly analogous to Monster Hunter or mecha series (e.g. GaoGaiGar, Gundam, etc.;), then this RP might not necessarily be the right one for you. Of course, I could probably state more clearly if I knew what exactly you might expect/want, so... Hey, I'm all ears for that.

Though, I suppose it does make sense to clarify that characters can be whichever, it's just that the given trend of the cast seemed to be leaning female (and given the mecha musume bit in the title, I suppose that makes sense anyways).


Ok then. Just curious about those parts ^_^

As for a character, this is what I have though keep in mind it's a "first attempt" sort of thing. The other problem is that I haven't decided on a Chi-Mechframe yet. Actually, I thought about him wearing full mech armor like the "Weissritter" from SRW and a long range support kind of unit but when compared to the other accepted character types, I wasn't sure if that'll fly with you.

At any rate, here's what I have thus far for a character:

Name: "Jake Armstrong" (Doesn't know his real name.)

Age: 24

Gender: Male

Appearance:

Stands around 6'2".

Personality: Jake personifies the typical "serious" and "soldier" type. Despite having a memory issue about his past, he always respects his superiors. He even talks in a "monotone" voice but on occassion has spoken normally if ordered to. A lone wolf type, he tends to keep to himself unless addressed.

History: Not much is known of the person that is "Jake Armstrong". His own name itself is just for IDing him. A name he just decided on a whim when told to give a name to ID himself. He doesn't remember his real name nor his past.

Though then again, from what is known, there are those that perhaps suggest that perhaps he best not remember.

From what is said, Jake was first found but other refugee's in some abandoned apartment buildings in the Bronx, New York area in the west of what remains of the USA. That was just after the Warped attack. Said refugee's were actually surprised that there were any survivors in the area but at the time, they didn't think much of Jake's circumstances.

But one thing Jake did remember was a certain creature crawling up his chest...towards his face...then darkness.

It got to a point where he rarely said a word to anyone. Not even about said "creature". Even trying to distance himself from the people that had saved him. Hell, he even tried killing himself but to his surprise, the other survivors prevented him from doing so. For better or worse, Jake was looked after by very strong willed survivors.

STill, he went through his days as if he were a zombie. Even in relief camps and military bases set up for any survivors of the Warped, he was always the one in that empty corner. Just sitting there. Though sometimes, he could be seen with a headset listening to music or some handheld gaming device.

Then one day, during a stay in a military base, a field medic wanted to give him a general physical as per requirement for any survivors staying at the shelter. Jake quietly complied, not caring whatever happened as a result.

It was there that the military became aware of Jake's "health problem" as they put it.

"...sign my death warrant then...", Jake had said, catching on to what they mean.

That's when the Commanding Officer of said base then gave Jake an offer. Become a living guinea pig and be given a reason to live. Harsh perhaps but Jake didn't care.

It was sometime afterwards during the testing, Chi-mech piloting and even military training that Jake had heard surviving nations were now scrambling for unique individuals like himself that "survived infection" from the Warped or Echidina some others said. As well as some seperate organization called "Horizon" looking to recruit such individuals. US military, though, made sure that Jake himself was exclusive to the US military. Even with the Warped, politics were politics it would seem. It didn't matter to him though. However, he did suspect that mindset would cause trouble...trouble that he may have to face and "clean up".

But then something different happened...his CO was shipping him out as part of some "good will" program.

"Normally, I'd wouldn't but we got to make sure we don't look like pricks for once...so...pack your bags Cadet Armstrong. Your going to Japan."

Skills: Despite seeming to have a death wish, Jake is surprisingly strong willed. He could take a lot of abuse both physical and mental and keep going if needed and within reason. Because of his military training, Jake also knows CQC or Close Quarters Combat and even outside of a Chi-Frame, knows how to handle firearms and even SOME basic first aid procedures. He's also perceptive, usually spotting things that others may miss. As such, he's a "Recon" expert: usually sent out first to survey a situation for the rest of his team before taking action with said team.
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@DarkRecon: Hm...

Well, there's... A lot to unpack here, but I'll go down one by one.

  • Minor point: Infection by standard means (read: mouth) guarantees mutation. Can't have that.
  • The character as a whole seems very... How do I put this... Flat? Amnesia plus lone wolf plus no connections to people means that the character has no stake in... Well, pretty much anything, as far as I can tell. That's probably the biggest problem that I have here; from getting dragged along by the government into being sent off for a 'goodwill' program (which is also something I'll get to), the dude has next to no reason to interact with other characters and thus in my opinion wouldn't mesh well with the rest of the cast.
  • The reason that people are scouted is because they haven't been picked up yet locally; national security is very important to pretty much every city-state/nation in the current state of the world, and so giving up perfectly usable personnel to an international organization (even if they do provide aid) does not seem like something that would happen in the first place—doubly so given that they are essentially a PMC in the grander scheme of things. I also believe that such an offer would likely be rejected out-of-hand given the timeline and circumstances anyways; Chi-Mechframes are expensive and gearing temporary personnel comes at a loss, and sending staff with said equipment carries a very heavy financial burden on the party offering with a very real risk of no return. Presenting an 'offering of goodwill' to an independent organization with high risk and comparatively low return does not sit well with me, and I doubt that it would with any high-ranking officials in-universe.
  • Minor point two: given that he is an amnesiac that was found in an abandoned apartment, how would he even have any material possessions? There wouldn't be anyone to confirm if they were his or not on-location, and given that search-and-rescue was the means by which he was found, anything not explicitly important to him (e.g. any form of ID, which given the circumstances of his name he would not have had on his person) would likely not have been retrieved.
  • The walking contradiction that is the despondence of the character towards any intent of pressing forward in spite of the circumstances and the presence of a strong will is also... Odd? As it stands, they come off as wholly resigned to their fate and only continue to push through because of a combination of what momentum they have and people around them more or less forcing him ahead. Things just don't line up on that front.


Hmmm... Yeah, that's about it for my thoughts on the matter at the moment. As for equipment design... I'd probably prefer something more akin to, say, tokusatsu outfits than smaller mecha to fit with the current cast aesthetic, but that part is less mandatory than what's been stated thus far.
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Aaaaand edited.

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@ERode: Well, 'tis only right that I give the same analysis towards this form, then.

  • The most immediate problem is... Well, once again, the fact that the character is being told to apply rather than be scouted. The origins and personality of the character would not be unknown to the higher-ups, and in the process of creating a group of individuals suited towards team missions and cohesion as an organization, this character's personality would likely not mesh well with the current cast. Even should the character apply, background checks when you have money to throw around are nothing to scoff at, especially when something like a mass initiative to force Pilots into existence (which, in all likelihood, would produce far more losses given pure statistics anyways), are easy to see from an external PoV and thus not something that the top brass here would necessarily want to directly associate with given their face as an organization.
  • I will repeat what I said about the other form as well: countries will seldom invest inane amounts of resources into someone or something without a return to show for it. China would likely have the resources to invest and the means to do so, but letting said resources slip by just as easily would be another issue entirely. Of course, this is ignoring the possibility that China ended up fractured into like a dozen different states again, which is another can of worms, but still.
  • Bit more minor, but the timeline of the presence of the Chi-Mechframe that the character has doesn't quiiiite line up, if only because of the presence of a different Chi-Mechframe being responsible. Every other Warped used as a basis for another Chi-Mechframe for the other characters was taken down by nebulous means (but still standard firepower all the same). It's a minor thing, so if that given Chi-Mechframe doesn't exist, the problem doesn't exist.


Ah... Yeah, that's about it as far as I can tell.
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Cool. Just so I've got a general idea of what this organization is...

It has money to match governments and has provided the Chi-Mechframes that the PCs are going to be using, and presumably has enough political influence to operate internationally without causing too many governments to freak out. The Chi-Mechframes that are currently available around the world (?) get their Cores from small-sized Warped and are produced specifically in Japan, where the organization's headquarters are. So going into this RP then, our characters would be totally fresh potential Frame Pilots, rather than having had any sort of training prior to this?

How big does a Warped need to be to be unkillable through conventional means?

And yeah, generally speaking, my thought is that the current incursion of Warped means that there's not enough safe land around to feed large populations (unless there's mysterious tech out there to grow food in labs). The high casualties and low chance of success is part of the point of that initiative, while the voluntary nature of this makes it slightly more palatable that the forced conscription that occurred during the early stages of the war. Think of it as something advertised like "offer up your lives for the chance to open up the future for humanity" or some propagandist bullshit like that. I didn't particularly point towards how large the project was or how many volunteers it has though, so it could be as small as necessary to remain a dirty secret.

Could you explain how the scouting process works by the by? Right now I'm reading it as: this international organization has tabs on medical records on a global level while countries are reduced to city-states and when an asymptomatic Echidna victim emerges, they toss money at the country in order to obtain all their background information, then try to snatch up the Frame Pilot before the country in question does (or just tosses more money at the country to buy the potential Frame Pilot off of them)?

Oh yeah, some more elaboration on what you mean by an 'investment' would be cool. Does it take a shit ton of resources just to keep Echidna victims in quarantine? Or is that just in reference to the idea of a country letting a Frame Pilot go after having made a Chi-Mechframe for them?

And I'm of the belief that this character's personality would work fine with a cast like this, when you already have sadistic loners and suicidal heroes. I'm fine with sanitizing it though~
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You've got questions, I've got answers. Let's break this down.
It has money to match governments and has provided the Chi-Mechframes that the PCs are going to be using, and presumably has enough political influence to operate internationally without causing too many governments to freak out.

Yes and yes.

The Chi-Mechframes that are currently available around the world (?) get their Cores from small-sized Warped and are produced specifically in Japan, where the organization's headquarters are. So going into this RP then, our characters would be totally fresh potential Frame Pilots, rather than having had any sort of training prior to this?

Generation 0 (the prototype) was made in Japan. I was leaning towards 'multinational coalition' in terms of prototype creation, so the production logically would've disseminated worldwide. The efficacy to which anyone could create one is up for debate and largely relies on what the nation has access to by this point in time.
The organization in question is located within a skybase of sorts; I used XCOM 2's flying airship as a point of reference here, except multiple times larger. As for the matter of training... 6 months from the start of the RP would have been the maximum time to have gotten used to the Chi-Mechframe's functionality. Anything before that is up to player preference.

How big does a Warped need to be to be unkillable through conventional means?

As a general rule of thumb, the ones around 30 meters in length are usually killable with very heavy investment of resources and firepower. Below that is probably doable by modern military arms, but it would take a fair amount of concentrated firepower to be able to take them down. The really big/durable ones (read: anything bigger than ~40) are usually too resilient to take down without investing something within the realm of "too many missiles to be worth it".

WITH THAT SAID: Warped are weird, and this is not a 'one size fits all' sort of situation. Variance will be variance and all that.

And yeah, generally speaking, my thought is that the current incursion of Warped means that there's not enough safe land around to feed large populations (unless there's mysterious tech out there to grow food in labs). The high casualties and low chance of success is part of the point of that initiative, while the voluntary nature of this makes it slightly more palatable that the forced conscription that occurred during the early stages of the war. Think of it as something advertised like "offer up your lives for the chance to open up the future for humanity" or some propagandist bullshit like that. I didn't particularly point towards how large the project was or how many volunteers it has though, so it could be as small as necessary to remain a dirty secret.

See, I'm not denying the theoretical possibility of the act and never did, just that the knowledge of which and the requisite factors to be able to execute upon it and obtain visible returns (even if out of sheer numbers) is not something that can be hit with a small sample size other than out of coincidence. Of course, a lot of things in life are coincidences, but if they obtained a success from said small sample, I don't doubt that they would expand recruitment for more tests, which would quickly even out the numbers and likely put at least some of those facts out on the table for people to come by, even if they are somewhat hidden initially.

Could you explain how the scouting process works by the by? Right now I'm reading it as: this international organization has tabs on medical records on a global level while countries are reduced to city-states and when an asymptomatic Echidna victim emerges, they toss money at the country in order to obtain all their background information, then try to snatch up the Frame Pilot before the country in question does (or just tosses more money at the country to buy the potential Frame Pilot off of them)?

Yeah, you essentially have the right of it.

Oh yeah, some more elaboration on what you mean by an 'investment' would be cool. Does it take a shit ton of resources just to keep Echidna victims in quarantine? Or is that just in reference to the idea of a country letting a Frame Pilot go after having made a Chi-Mechframe for them?

Just the latter. Making the equipment is expensive, and letting both the Pilot AND the equipment go would likely be a loss that could not be easily recouped.

And I'm of the belief that this character's personality would work fine with a cast like this, when you already have sadistic loners and suicidal heroes. I'm fine with sanitizing it though~

See, I understand the logic behind the character and why they are the way they are. Their worldviews make sense given everything that they've experienced, and I'm not denying that fact. With that said, this line stands out to me:
Xuan-Yu is a bastard, a callous, cruel bastard who masks his inhumanity with an unburdened smile.

There's a difference between that and, say, the aforementioned 'sadistic loner'; while that character does have problematic tendencies, they're not... I don't know, averse to meaningful social interaction? Like... Heck, since I'm reminded of Metal Gear Rising when I look at the character and their backstory, let's use Raiden as an example. Dude's got hangups, sure, and he's definitely more than a bit psychotic at times. But the way he sees the world and responds to things are representative of his mind, and thus allows for the other characters to respond to those in kind. The character you've posited (and I could be wrong) feels like they're not willing to at least put themselves out there and speak candidly. That lack of trust (even on a base level) could very easily be problematic, and given that the characters would have by this point spent months together, being unable to trust someone (with your life or someone else's) is not a good sign.

I'm not asking for someone who can throw themselves onto the pyre for someone else, obviously (and it's not like we don't have someone like that already), but dialing back from 'callous and cruel bastard who puts up a front' would most at least put the possibility of reliability on the table with respect to the character. Even if they're not necessarily affable (or anything close to it) 24/7, being able to interact with them during downtime without being shut down by insincere niceties would be a marked improvement on all side, IC and OoC. That's my opinion, at least.

I hope that answered everything?
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