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I was being a hipster when I refused to watch the movie for years because fuckteenmovies, today was me giving it a chance and it dropped the ball. I did not enjoy this movie.


Fair 'nuff.

Main thing I couldn't get over with Battle Royal was never-ending ammunition Uzi.
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it's justsometimesi feel so ugly


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I was being a hipster when I refused to watch the movie for years because fuckteenmovies, today was me giving it a chance and it dropped the ball. I did not enjoy this movie.


You watched the video didn't you

Don't lie
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You watched the video didn't youDon't lie


Hey, I'm the one that used magic to figure out what video you meant to post.
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Fair 'nuff.Main thing I couldn't get over with Battle Royal was never-ending ammunition Uzi.


Except for that one moment where the dude running out of ammo saves the MC's life
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Probably, with that obvious reference to it.

I'm watching some of this guy's other vids now.
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Except for that one moment where the dude running out of ammo saves the MC's life


They have an entire trope dedicated to that, if I recall correctly, where a gun never runs out of ammunition before it becomes plot convenient.

EDIT: A ha!

" Bottomless Magazines: In the manga Kiriyama only changes magazine once and fires hundred of rounds.

Averted by anyone who isn't Kiriyama.
In the novel it's justified since he changes weapons and steals his victim's weapon."

Bottomless Magazines

This one also bothered me:

"Gangsta Style: In the manga, this is how Kazuo Kiriyama fires every single weapon. Apparently, genius though he may be, he fails to realize that this is a highly ineffective method of firing a handgun, to say nothing of firing an automatic weapon. However, this is sometimes an Averted Trope due to a few instances where he appears to fire normally."
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Probably, with that obvious reference to it. I'm watching some of this guy's other vids now.


None of the others are animated, I don't think

They don't have the same magic, unfortunately
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They have an entire trope dedicated to that, if I recall correctly, where a gun never runs out of ammunition before it becomes plot convenient.EDIT: A ha!" Bottomless Magazines: In the manga Kiriyama only changes magazine once and fires hundred of rounds. Averted by anyone who isn't Kiriyama. In the novel it's justified since he changes weapons and steals his victim's weapon."This one also bothered me:"Gangsta Style: In the manga, this is how Kazuo Kiriyama fires every single weapon. Apparently, genius though he may be, he fails to realize that this is a highly ineffective method of firing a handgun, to say nothing of firing an automatic weapon. However, this is sometimes an Averted Trope due to a few instances where he appears to fire normally."


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None of the others are animated, I don't thinkThey don't have the same magic, unfortunately


Lol just realized it's Lyle from Sanity Not Included
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I thought it was entertaining and I liked how they shot it. It was always going to be pg-13 though. Anything more isn't as marketable.
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I'm glad not to see complaints that Hunger Games was just ripping off Battle Royale. :P Considering both are different versions of the Roman Colosseum. With some reality T.V. thrown in Hunger Games on top.

I like both movies; they've got different strengths. Hunger Games isn't a realistic setting - I don't see how it'd happen anywhere in modern Earth - but it goes for a lot more believable reasons and detailed background/politics than Battle Royale. The Hunger Games do exactly what the Roman Colosseum did. It acts as morbid entertainment and crowd control simultaneously, to keep all the unhappy unwashed masses tame and maintain the status quo. What I do know from the films and books are pretty clever, particularly for a teen series, which usually assume the audience is brain dead.

Also, the way it plays with reality T.V., also done before, is neat.
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I'm glad not to see complaints that Hunger Games was just ripping off Battle Royale. :P Considering both are different versions of the Roman Colosseum. With some reality T.V. thrown in Hunger Games on top.I like both movies; they've got different strengths. Hunger Games isn't a realistic setting - I don't see how it'd happen anywhere in modern Earth - but it goes for a lot more believable reasons and detailed background/politics than Battle Royale. The Hunger Games do exactly what the Roman Colosseum did. It acts as morbid entertainment and crowd control simultaneously, to keep all the unhappy unwashed masses tame and maintain the status quo. What I do know from the films and books are pretty clever, particularly for a teen series, which usually assume the audience is brain dead.Also, the way it plays with reality T.V., also done before, is neat.


And I'm glad that you recognize the fact that I didn't voice any complaints about HG being a ripoff of BR, I simply saw both have basically the same premise with different settings and compared the two. One I liked and one I disliked.

I wouldn't agree with what you're saying about HG's premise for the games being any more believable than BR, I'd say both are equally unbelievable because both are the same fucking premise, using arena deathmatches with children as a means of preventing rebellion. Stopping populations from rioting by constantly keeping them focused on brutal combat. It's an illogical concept that couldn't possibly work in realistic application. The difference between BR and HG is that BR embraces the ridiculousness of the concept where HG puts all this work into creating a reality where it would succeed while still failing to address the ultimate flaws of the concept.
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The bottomless ammo Kiriyama had was discussed in Mangafox forums. There people said that probably he got some "help". And he also could take the ammo from the handguns he had taken from the other players, since they are the same caliber size as his uzi.

And yea, the gangsta style is understandable for other students, since they are 15. But Kiriyama was yakuza, if I remember right, so he should have some experience with guns, but he still holds the gun in a weird way.

And, the movie is crappy. I heard the book is best. I have read the manga and watched the movie. The manga is amazing, if we don't count Mitsuko, who totally went crazy.

Aaaaaaaand everyone chooses either BR or HG, why not like both?
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The bottomless ammo Kiriyama had was discussed in Mangafox forums. There people said that probably he got some "help". And he also could take the ammo from the handguns he had taken from the other players, since they are the same caliber size as his uzi.And yea, the gangsta style is understandable for other students, since they are 15. But Kiriyama was yakuza, if I remember right, so he should have some experience with guns, but he still holds the gun in a weird way.And, the movie is crappy. I heard the book is best. I have read the manga and watched the movie. The manga is amazing, if we don't count Mitsuko, who totally went crazy.Aaaaaaaand everyone chooses either BR or HG, why not like both?


Don't try and realistically explain things in works where the creators were clearly not trying to be realistic, it is silly. And I don't like both HG and BR because HG is crap, not because I somehow feel I can only like one of the two.
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Then why are you complaining if you don't even want to hear any realistic theories?
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-BR
-Over the top premise
-Barely justified why a class was fighting to the death
-It's Quentin Tarantino's favorite movie that he wish he made

You seem to be getting rather defensive of something we all said we enjoyed. Doesn't mean it has to be hailed as flawless. It's a healthy discussion about two movies with similar themes.

But trying to justify a ridiculous, over the top director choice (and I guess the comic, given your signature), is silly. I get annoyed at most movies for the same shit because I was in the army and own firearms, so I'm around them a lot. It's just hard to take a character seriously as a super killer when he flaps his arm around like an inbred turkey with an Uzi and murders a shitload of characters when he shouldn't have hit a damn thing.

Although, it is amusing to pretend he has aimbot.
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-BR-Over the top premise-Barely justified why a class was fighting to the death-It's Quentin Tarantino's favorite movie that he wish he madeYou seem to be getting rather defensive of something we all said we enjoyed. Doesn't mean it has to be hailed as flawless. It's a healthy discussion about two movies with similar themes.But trying to justify a ridiculous, over the top director choice (and I guess the comic, given your signature), is silly. I get annoyed at most movies for the same shit because I was in the army and own firearms, so I'm around them a lot. It's just hard to take a character seriously as a super killer when he flaps his arm around like an inbred turkey with an Uzi and murders a shitload of characters when he shouldn't have hit a damn thing.Although, it is amusing to pretend he has aimbot.


Oh my god yes.
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Nah, the best moment in BR was when Kazuo survived an explosion that was meant to turn half a building into rubble by sitting in a FUKKEN TANK truck. That is exactly what i would do myself in such a situation.
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