Orfai versus Nat, haha. They are literally the opposite. Orfai embodies Secrets, Change and often Chaos, while Nat embodies Knowledge, Stagnation and Order. They will not get along one, tiny little bit will they? One eternal conflict coming up...

Other than the God of Order and maybe the God of Law, I think Orfai would get along with pretty much anyone. He mainly wants to change things, and since almost anything the gods do will cause change he isn't really bothered by who or what he helps as long as something changes. You enslaved someone? You just changed the lives of them, their family, their friends, the Guards, the search parties who will look for them. Hurray! You want to spread undeath across the world? Woah, that's a big change, hurray! You want to take what everyone else has? This could be massive, hurray! He's pretty much content no matter what happens as long as something happens xD

darkwolf687 said
Orfai versus Nat, haha. They are literally the opposite. Orfai embodies Secrets, Change and often Chaos, while Nat embodies Knowledge, Stagnation and Order. They will not get along one, tiny little bit will they? One eternal conflict coming up...Other than the God of Order and maybe the God of Law, I think Orfai would get along with pretty much anyone. He mainly wants to change things, and since almost anything the gods do will cause change he isn't really bothered by who or what he helps as long as something changes. You enslaved someone? You just changed the lives of them, their family, their friends, the Guards, the search parties who will look for them. Hurray! You want to spread undeath across the world? Woah, that's a big change, hurray! You want to take what everyone else has? This could be massive, hurray! He's pretty much content no matter what happens as long as something happens xD

Unless someone changes something so much that there is then nothing left to change. OOOOOO.

darkwolf687 said
Other than the God of Order and maybe the God of Law, I think Orfai would get along with pretty much anyone. He mainly wants to change things, and since almost anything the gods do will cause change he isn't really bothered by who or what he helps as long as something changes. You enslaved someone? You just changed the lives of them, their family, their friends, the Guards, the search parties who will look for them. Hurray! You want to spread undeath across the world? Woah, that's a big change, hurray! You want to take what everyone else has? This could be massive, hurray! He's pretty much content no matter what happens as long as something happens xD

You know, Orfai might like Csonugdytuft because her entire goal is to spread her Love and her Gifts to as many people as she can, and her Gifts twist and warp people's flesh and makes them desire the Gift and worship her. That's a pretty big change if you ask me. Csonugdytuft wouldn't be too fond of Orfai though, since she desires to help people and Orfai doesn't care if the change hurts or helps people.

TheSovereignGrave said
Meanwhile Csonugdytuft is a caring, kind, and benevolent Goddess who Gifts you with glorious mutations as a sign of her love (your desire of said Gifts is not important). And all who dwell within her realm have been Gifted by her, and thus follow their Goddess without question for she works towards the betterment of all. So pretty much everyone on her realm (that is sentient) could be considered a member of the Cult of the Divine Circle despite not living among humans. And you know, if you end up stuck in her realm being Gifted probably isn't that bad. Otherwise you would probably go at least a little crazy.

I feel like our gods might get along okay.

The gifts your goddess bestows certainly qualify as "oddities", and her benevolence would mesh well with Ielitha Dema's more laid-back approach to dealing with mortals (and the other princes of ruin, for that matter).

Orfai is kind of a funny character, mainly because although he would be perfectly content to allow other Princes to fuck stuff up because they cause change, he'd also benefit from getting in the way of other Princes' plans too, because that's just further change for the sake of change.
Uh.
Brain... melting...

darkwolf687 said
Orfai versus Nat, haha. They are literally the opposite. Orfai embodies Secrets, Change and often Chaos, while Nat embodies Knowledge, Stagnation and Order. They will not get along one, tiny little bit will they? One eternal conflict coming up...Other than the God of Order and maybe the God of Law, I think Orfai would get along with pretty much anyone. He mainly wants to change things, and since almost anything the gods do will cause change he isn't really bothered by who or what he helps as long as something changes. You enslaved someone? You just changed the lives of them, their family, their friends, the Guards, the search parties who will look for them. Hurray! You want to spread undeath across the world? Woah, that's a big change, hurray! You want to take what everyone else has? This could be massive, hurray! He's pretty much content no matter what happens as long as something happens xD

And the slaves, while a fairly large change a the time, will be unchanging for the rest of time to come. So it comes to the question, what's better, having a big change then stagnation for a long time, or having no change but then having small amounts of change at regular intervals for a long time?

NewSun said
Unless someone changes something so much that there is then nothing left to change. OOOOOO.

Well, he can always try and change it back :p He doesn't really care if its going forwards or backwards, just as he doesn't care if its good or bad. Its like his realm, he's created and destroyed places over and over again because he enjoys the change. He finds much more satisfaction in the mortals, specifically when he gives the tools to someone and lets them go mad, just to see what changes.
I might make one of his artifacts a paintbrush which allows the holder to change things by "painting" over them (Because abstract artifacts are fun... Hehe

Edit: I think he would get along with her too, because its a massive change. The problem is indeed his ambiguity. He just doesn't give a crap as long as something happens xD

Edit: I see him as the character who would help the other princes complete their plans, then try to fuck it all up for the sake of change, its the same with the slaves, I never said he's let them be slaves forever after that, and he could have a lot of fun setting it up so the slaves got away or died after the fact.

Xaxl said
I feel like our gods might get along okay.The gifts your goddess bestows certainly qualify as "oddities", and her benevolence would mesh well with Ielitha Dema's more laid-back approach to dealing with mortals (and the other princes of ruin, for that matter).

Hmmm, that is a valid point. Csonugdytuft may not like what she sees as Ielitha Dema taking advantage of a wronged party by striking a bargain, but that's not a particularly major quibble since unless she's also a dick about screwing up their desires it's not that big of a deal. And I think the Gifts qualify as more than oddities; I plan on having one of the Cult of the Divine Circle's high priests be a sentient mass of flesh fused to a throne. And he started out human. :D

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darkwolf687 said
I think he would get along with her too, because its a massive change. The problem is indeed his ambiguity. He just doesn't give a crap as long as something happens xD

Yeah, so I think it'd be less that Csonugdytuft actively dislikes and hates him and more that she just does not trust him at all.

TheSovereignGrave said
Hmmm, that is a valid point. Csonugdytuft may not like what she sees as Ielitha Dema taking advantage of a wronged party by striking a bargain, but that's not a particularly major quibble since unless she's also a dick about screwing up their desires it's not that big of a deal. And I think the Gifts qualify as more than oddities; I plan on having one of the Cult of the Divine Circle's high priests be a sentient mass of flesh fused to a throne. And he started out human. :D

Ielitha Dema is often rather excessive when it comes to how she goes about getting vengeance for somebody (since it involves eventually imprisoning them in Aedora), but that's usually part of the understanding. She doesn't exactly correct people who ask for her help and just want their enemy humiliated, but the number of people capable of contacting her who don't understand what asking for her help usually entails are fairly low.

Oddities is just a polite way of saying "weird shit". The more unique the better. Mass of flesh fused to a throne that used to be human? Hell yeah, Ielitha finds that fascinating.

Yeah, you can't exactly trust a guy who gets what he wants regardless of whether he betrays you or not. He just wants change, the further reaching the better

Xaxl said
Ielitha Dema is often rather when it comes to how she goes about getting vengeance for somebody (since it involves eventually imprisoning them in Aedora), but that's usually part of the understanding. She doesn't exactly correct people who ask for her help and just want their enemy humiliated, but the number of people capable of contacting her who don't understand what asking for her help usually entails are fairly low.

Oddities is just a polite way of saying "weird shit". The more unique the better. Mass of flesh fused to a throne that used to be human? Hell yeah, Ielitha finds that .

Understandable. Still going to be a minor quibble, but nothing major. After all, while Csonugdytuft would prefer to help everyone she knows that sometimes you can't help everyone.

I know what oddity means, I was just stating that the Gift can result in 'really weird shit'. Oh, and that's a sentient mass of flesh. :D

And Darkwolf, I have a question. Since the Aether Order were created by you I figure it'd only be polite to ask; can I create a small town that used to be regular old town and housed an Abbey for the Order, but was 'corrupted' and pretty much taken over by Csonugdytuft and the Cult of the Divine Circle? I'd make it a small and remote town, so that you wouldn't have too many real members of the Order visiting too often. I like the irony in the one town that is completely under Csonugdytuft's rule being considered by outsiders to be controlled by an Order that hates the Princes of Ruin.

I have added a ton of information on the various major religions that follow Evarast. Please take a look.

Use them for pretty much anything you want, I'd rather the corrupted abbey was a small one though (So more like a chapel than a full on abbey) They tend to be pretty inept at actually locating the heresy, its only when they've found it they are actually good at what they're doing. Most don't have a clue on how to find it, with only the members who live in the larger abbeys actually having methods to properly seek out heresy, The rest just sort of hope for a proper catch. Its more fear than effectiveness that does their work.
In short, sure, as long as the Abbey wasn't very big or anything so the skilled ones weren't there.

Oh yeah, that's fine. I was planning on having it be a pretty small one anyway. Though they still had a rather tight grip on local politics on account of the town itself being rather small and isolated.

My post has relevant information for that area as well...

Yeah, the Order of the Aether have a pretty tight grip on politics everywhere they are prominent (There's just no political backup like an army of screaming fanatics and terrified farmers xD)
Its a bit like the church in medieval Europe, you do what they say or the inquisition might be coming your way. I tried to make a corrupted version of the ten commandments to imply they started out well intentioned by the crap sack world turned them into Overseer styled zealots

Edit: It does, but considering the size different between those who have given themselves to order and those who follow the Order of Aether in the west, I think its safe to say the Order of Aether has a near grip on the West still, especially on local politics and policy making

Mine is based sort of loosely on the Bahai faith.

darkwolf687 said
Yeah, the Order of the Aether have a pretty tight grip on politics everywhere they are prominent (There's just no political backup like an army of screaming fanatics and terrified farmers xD)Its a bit like the church in medieval Europe, you do what they say or the inquisition might be coming your way. I tried to make a corrupted version of the ten commandments to imply they started out well intentioned by the crap sack world turned them into Overseer styled zealotsEdit: It does, but considering the size different between those who have given themselves to order and those who follow the Order, I think its safe to say the Order has a near grip on the West still, especially on local politics and policy making

They have the forces of god on their side!

I got the post up for the town, and I think that may be the last post I make before the RP starts. After all, the Cult of the Divine Circle isn't a major and prominent power anywhere and I don't think Csonugdytuft is the kind to give her followers artifacts. After all, if she wants to reward them she just Gifts them.

True followers or devotees of Ielitha Dema are probably fairly rare, but I could see a lot of types of people asking her for her blessing, as it were. Spies, curators, artists, explorers... anybody dealing with secrets or curiosities. She might also be popular among executioners, thus "the Hangman's Lady".

Those cults that do exist purely to serve her would be very mysterious and secretive and probably quite small.