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[Taka]

Skyswimsky said
Non-fiction and magic is no excuse for completly ignoring the laws of physic!

Actually..yes..yes I could when magic that can bend the laws when that is used.

Click This said
Wikipedia: For an observer standing on the ground with h = 1.70 metres (5 ft 7 in) (average eye-level height), the horizon is at a distance of 4.7 kilometres (2.9 mi).How will you aim? Magic won't fix that.

Ummm you must not watch/read much anime/comics. If magic can rewrite laws, and bend space-time then yes it can. You are basing this on the average eyesight.

Why are we even arguing this right now? I literally already stated that I'd nerf the range or take away the rifle.

[Click This]

Just a harmless friendly debate. From what I know of the setting and mechanics here, magic is not something you throw around lightly.

It takes a very powerful entity to alter space-time or rewrite laws, and Skys' time mage is one of the most OP characters here because of that. Not every character is going to have that ability. As Anderiel said in an earlier post, magic in this RP is based on a mana pool to do these things, and the more you use, the more you exhaust yourself. So you can't go bending space willy-nilly to put a piece of lead in somebody 10 miles away, it'll be a complicated and stressing spell that you use sparingly.

[ERode]

Essentially, Click, stop wasting your time with debates and get posting. It's Anderiel's decision, and Taka's probably sold off his liver and viriginity in the RP Black Market to get his mahou shoujo assassin-chan.

[Click This]

Post incoming on the morrow.

[Taka]

Click This said
Just a harmless friendly debate. From what I know of the setting and mechanics here, magic is not something you throw around lightly. It takes a very powerful entity to alter space-time or rewrite laws, and Skys' time mage is one of the most OP characters here because of that. Not every character is going to have that ability. As Anderiel said in an earlier post, magic in this RP is based on a mana pool to do these things, and the more you use, the more you exhaust yourself. So you can't go bending space willy-nilly to put a piece of lead in somebody 10 miles away, it'll be a complicated and stressing spell that you use sparingly.

Dragon.

I only say this because...I'm..too...speechless by this response.

<3

ERode said
Essentially, Click, stop wasting your time with debates and get posting. It's Anderiel's decision, and Taka's probably sold off his liver and viriginity in the RP Black Market to get his mahou shoujo assassin-chan.

My virginity is worth a lot. I'm quite the pure maiden.

[Asuras]

ERode said
And while I'm at it.....Asuras, does Nolox or Dhana have any weakness to sunlight? Or do they just not like it? And I'd say that necromancy is a really rare magic, so Nolox won't be improving his art any time soon...if he doesn't get killed by a Kaien person for heresy. I have no idea what an ogre is in this RP-verse, so give me concrete feats.Well, who knows how strong the monsters are? Only Anderiel knows, because if I was in charge, everyone dies so I can focus on a less OP RP. I just don't think we should put down any concrete numbers, cause even amongst current characters, there's different specializations.

Nolox has a slight weakness to sunlight. Fair enough. If Nolox dies, Drana wouldn't really care anyways, I just thought he'd be an interesting side-character to have tag along.

Uhh... I guess, strong enough to not be afraid of whatever this thing is during fisticuffs? Really idk.

[ERode]

k, go post, Asuras. You're good to go.

Sky, stop derping around and post.

Zombehs, I'll assume that Chaotsu is outside the Grand Church. Make him go inside, and re-read Anderiel's post to understand how shit's going down.

[Zombehs]

Or not.

[Anderiel]

Just so there's no confusion regarding Kal's sheet.
I didn't accept anything yet, or permit anything relating his abilities~
Rode; aka McNerfsquad; aka Cold Canadian; aka Doucherode is my Co-Pilot..
And I mentioned beforehand that I would ask for his perspective before I made any decisions.
His words are just as god-judgement-worthy as my own.
Scorch-Earth-Consecration-Run for your Lives.
Comes from a Co-GM as well, his words are gold and mine are platinum.
Fin.

[ERode]

thewheeloffateisturning

So yeah, I'll go over all this stuff again.

There are two types of objects that can do magical stuff by forcibly sucking out mana from their user: magitech and magical artifacts. Now, Magitech is less efficient in mana usage compared to magical artifacts, and all magitech are equal only to a 'Principality-level magical artifact. That means that each single magitech object can only have one spell/use. If you then make that single use something like a manipulation spell, the usage would be very basic, and always weaker than a specific spell.

Going off Skype-Anderiel...
[7:39:12 PM] Anderiel: A fire spell can give the fire the force of an 18 wheeler.
[7:39:13 PM] Ashifili: not creation or magnification?
[7:39:16 PM] Anderiel: Or make it rain from the sky.
[7:39:32 PM] Anderiel: Or cause a pilalr of flame to rise from the ground.
[7:39:39 PM] Anderiel: Fire Manipulation is...
[7:40:44 PM] Anderiel: Fire Manipulation - Moving x amount of fire with no physical means. Being able redistribute it over a set distance, and control it over a set distance.
[7:41:21 PM] Anderiel: So, unless they have some alterior means to start a Large Fire.
[7:41:33 PM] Anderiel: It's not very strong, unless you're in a forest.

Essentially, you can have the Sun Slayers have Electromagnetic Spectrum manipulation as it's single use, but it won't be very powerful, nor will you be able to do things such as shoot lightning or raw magical energy out as well. Essentially, you only have one spell because it MUST be magitech.

Later on in the RP, Anderiel will be introducing magical artifacts that are in the shape of firearms, but until then...it would be advisable to get one gun for every individual spell that your current Sun Slayer has. Because single use. So either you have tons of guns that fulfill different functions, or you have a few guns that are relatively weak, but with broad uses.

hashtagelements

[8:02:45 PM] Ashifili: how far does magic say fuck you to physics?
[8:03:25 PM] Anderiel: It's more like.
[8:03:32 PM] Anderiel: Lightning =/= Magic
[8:03:41 PM] Anderiel: Lightning = A Natural Occurence
[8:03:49 PM] Anderiel: Natural Occurence = Science
Lightning Magic = Magic
[8:04:10 PM] Anderiel: Lighting =/= Magic
[8:04:53 PM] Ashifili: so lightning magic is the shooting of lightning bolts and shizz, but it can't change what lightning itself is?
[8:05:19 PM] Anderiel: Lightning Magic is mana.
[8:05:40 PM] Anderiel: Therefore, it's not Lightning.
[8:06:07 PM] Anderiel: It's an imitation of a Natural Occurence in the form of a spell.
[8:09:44 PM] Ashifili: as a summary...
[8:10:21 PM] Ashifili: Basically, elemental magic is an imitation of the real thing, meaning that there are no elemental spells that can change the physical properties of an element?
[8:10:32 PM] Anderiel: Exactly.
[8:10:34 PM] Ashifili: As in, you can have lava, but you can't have liquid fire
[8:10:41 PM] Anderiel: Yes.

As such, elemental magic takes a natural occurence, such as an avalanche or a tornado, and then uses magic to mimick it. You can't do something to an element that reality doesn't allow, such as making solid air or gaseous rocks. So, you know, no one can break that rule, unless you're God.

hashtagskypestuffv3

[8:23:12 PM] Anderiel: Rhys Welch
Rhys Welch, the prodigal young inventor that has recently made a name for himself with his advanced skills in robotics and guncrafting. Being the boy who invented ARCs 'Aerial Robotic Combatants' which are essentially small mechanized dragons armed with guns, he has become the spotlight of Doniaeth and is growing in fame nearly every day. <--- Read that, and look for the word Prosthesis.
Why do I even type this stuff if it's not going to be read?
[8:25:12 PM] Anderiel: I don't even.
[8:25:16 PM] Anderiel: What the serious fuck.

[8:19:10 PM] Anderiel: Magic can't give X-ray vision.
[8:19:17 PM] Anderiel: Magic 'can' give invisibility.
[8:19:25 PM] Anderiel: But it's finite.
[8:19:32 PM] Anderiel: And not like perma-stealth.

[8:21:12 PM] Anderiel: Not spine surgery.
[8:21:24 PM] Ashifili: doesn't he do prosthetics though?
[8:21:28 PM] Anderiel: No.
[8:22:06 PM] Anderiel: He made the ARCs

[8:26:11 PM] Anderiel: I said Fantasy Tech.
[8:26:15 PM] Anderiel: No Sci-Fi Tech.

hashtagrealityOP

[8:34:06 PM] Ashifili: does magic bend the laws of physics/reality, generally?
[8:34:11 PM] Ashifili: bar Sky's wtftimemagic
[8:34:49 PM] Anderiel: The best way to explain it would be.
[8:35:15 PM] Anderiel: ST+MT=R
[8:35:30 PM] Anderiel: ST-R=MT
[8:35:40 PM] Anderiel: MT-R=ST
[8:36:00 PM] Anderiel: Science Theory = Scientific Knowledge or Imitation Magic.
[8:36:32 PM] Anderiel: ^
[8:36:48 PM] Anderiel: They are equal things, and are a part of reality.
[8:36:56 PM] Ashifili: so they can't change it?
[8:36:59 PM] Anderiel: Nope.
[8:37:03 PM] Ashifili: only do things within the constraints of reality?
[8:37:07 PM] Anderiel: Yes.
[8:37:21 PM] Anderiel: A rock cannot be a banana.
[8:37:25 PM] Anderiel: No matter how hard it tries.
[8:37:35 PM] Anderiel: No machine can do the impossible.
[8:38:11 PM] Anderiel: Sky's magic if it ever gets brought up.
[8:38:17 PM] Anderiel: Is just super advanced spacial magic.
[8:38:20 PM] Anderiel: #explained

hashtagOP

[8:46:20 PM] Anderiel: Natural Arts > Magic = Tech
[8:46:36 PM] Anderiel: Thao pretty OP.
[8:46:43 PM] Anderiel: Funny how we have only 1.

hashtagpoorpaladins

Weak Mages can't even use Anti-Magic, the closest thing they'd have is like Repel Barrier where it repels magic.
[8:48:06 PM] Anderiel: Anti-Magic Zones are used by Paladins who literally want to bust their ass to learn it.
[8:50:42 PM] Ashifili: the question still stands though, can a stronger mage bust through the anti-magic of a weaker one?
[8:50:56 PM] Anderiel: No.
[8:51:07 PM] Anderiel: Simply because it's not a dick measuring contest.
[8:51:21 PM] Anderiel: It's a spell created for the sole purpose of cancelling magic.

[Zombehs]

[8:05:19 PM] Anderiel: Lightning Magic is mana.
[8:05:40 PM] Anderiel: Therefore, it's not Lightning.
[8:06:07 PM] Anderiel: It's an imitation of a Natural Occurence in the form of a spell.

But... it acts like and has all the properties of lightning for the most part?

[ERode]

...That's what an imitation is, Zombehs.

it acts like and has all the properties of lightning for the most part

Which also means it's pretty much also LIMITED to being like that.

[Animus]

So basically its like Avatar with the firebending and etc.

You can't manipulate the properties of the element but you can wield them as you will so, right?

Such as flaming swords, manipulating the route of an arrow mid-flight or gliding on dem gusts of winds.

[ERode]

Yep. The flaming sword needs to have a physical base though, or it'll be useless in actual physical exchanges.

Note that you can replicate the 'impossible' (such as solid air) by doing something like adding metal blades to a tornado. It won't actually be 'cutting air', but it'll be close.

[ERode]

NEWSFLASH!

[8:46:20 PM] Anderiel: Natural Arts > Magic = Tech
[8:46:36 PM] Anderiel: Thao pretty OP.
[8:46:43 PM] Anderiel: Funny how we have only 1.

NATURAL ARTS IS MASTER RACE.

[Zombehs]

ERode said
NEWSFLASH![8:46:20 PM] Anderiel: Natural Arts > Magic = Tech
[8:46:36 PM] Anderiel: Thao pretty OP.
[8:46:43 PM] Anderiel: Funny how we have only 1.
NATURAL ARTS IS MASTER RACE.

Told ya so. Well, we have two if you want to count Sky's NPC.

[Click This]

FISTS OF STEEL

[Zombehs]

Click This said
FISTS OF STEEL

More like FISTS OF UNKNOWN METAL*.

*to be determined once that chart gets out

[ERode]

ofc, no range for Natural Arts, nor much flexbility.

So it's a straight power vs utility thing.

[Zombehs]

ERode said
ofc, no range for Natural Arts, nor much flexbility.So it's a straight power vs utility thing.

Muh Ki Blasts say, "Fack you." To a limited, but still useful range.