UK Leaves EU

[Garattee]

PJW speaks a lot of sense though, I know feminists dont like him much. But he uses logic instead of emotion.

[Spud]

@The Nexerus

What sinn fein are trying to do is essentially change the goal posts of the debate between a unified ireland, as while sectarianism and Westminster support has kept it entirely separate, NI i think had either one of, or the highest remain vote out of all the UK states. Personally I'm all for it if northern ireland are - so, while it may not work entirely now, it does open a path towards it.

@scribz

It had the second highest remain vote, Scotland had the highest remain vote.
So do you want the Sinn Fein border poll/United Ireland thing?

[Vilageidiotx]

@ClocktowerEchos@Vilageidiotx@Dinh AaronMk



since humor doesnt work on you people, how about logic?

@Dynamo Frokane

dammit sleepingsilence, i said i don't like watching video arguments

And hell, I don't have a dog in in this fight. So long as it doesn't cause a recession I am only interested because the idea of an independent Scotland or a United Ireland is really fucking cool regardless of how likely they are. I mean, you see braveheart? They paint their faces blue. Who don't like that.

[darkwolf687]

Aaaaaand the petition calling for a second referendum has already broke 2.3 million. If it keeps this up it will definitely have record levels of signatures.

[Vilageidiotx]

Aaaaaand the petition calling for a second referendum has already broke 2.3 million. If it keeps this up it will definitely have record levels of signatures.

@darkwolf687

time to have a referendum on the referendum. "The Referendum Referendum" sounds pretty boss.

[The Nexerus]

Northern Ireland had the second highest remain vote, Scotland had the highest remain vote.

@Spud

By constituent countries, sure. There were many regions in England that opposed Brexit much more so than Northern Ireland, however. Most notably London.

[darkwolf687]

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time to have a referendum on the referendum. "The Referendum Referendum" sounds pretty boss.

@Vilageidiotx

Let's just skip it all and go straight to the Neverendum.

[Spud]

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Let's just skip it all and go straight to the Neverendum.

@darkwolf687

Glad I'm in Ireland at the mo so I don't have to crash into Neverendum campaigners every time I pop out for groceries x'D

[Keyguyperson]

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dammit sleepingsilence, i said i don't like watching video arguments

And hell, I don't have a dog in in this fight. So long as it doesn't cause a recession I am only interested because the idea of an independent Scotland or a United Ireland is really fucking cool regardless of how likely they are. I mean, you see braveheart? They paint their faces blue. Who don't like that.

@Vilageidiotx

I'm actually just in this for the possibility of the Third Great Depression. Mainly since we all know what followed the first one. Hopefully we'll get a nuclear holocaust. Then the aliens will come and bring us the light of communism.

Posadism is the only way forward.

[scribz]

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It had the second highest remain vote, Scotland had the highest remain vote.
So do you want the Sinn Fein border poll/United Ireland thing?

@Spud

Well I certainly want them to have the choice. It would need to be a movement across both states.

[scribz]

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TL:DR -- there's not much USA in here, so it's a pointless read. Watch this instead.

@mdk

What do you feel about the democratic house sit in to restrict people on the terrorist watch list from guns? I see 86% of citizens in the US support it across the political spectrum.

[scribz]

Scottish independent favoured at 59% percent and rising

[Vilageidiotx]

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I'm actually just in this for the possibility of the Third Great Depression. Mainly since we all know what followed the first one. Hopefully we'll get a nuclear holocaust. Then the aliens will come and bring us the light of communism.

Posadism is the only way forward.

@Keyguyperson

what happens if the aliens are an-caps?

Scottish independent favored at 59% percent and rising

@scribz

[Dinh AaronMk]

@Vilageidiotx

The Bonny Prince wrings his Catholic hands from the distant grave.

[Keyguyperson]

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what happens if the aliens are an-caps?

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@Vilageidiotx

Oh, you know that's ridiculous. Everyone knows that space travel is impossible under anarchism!

[mdk]

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What do you feel about the democratic house sit in to restrict people on the terrorist watch list from guns? I see 86% of citizens in the US support it across the political spectrum.

@scribz

Considering a good friend of mine -- an active-duty Air Force pilot currently commanding a flight school unit -- is somehow on the terrorist watch list -- I don't have a lot of faith in whoever's putting all that together and running it. Heck maybe they'll clean up their act, and maybe someday the watch list will run as smoothly as healthcare.gov. Or put it to you this way: let's say Donald Trump gets to decide who's on the terrorist watch list. Does that sound like a law that can coexist with the bill of rights as we know it?

More to the point -- it's a stupid feel-good law. We're talking about terrorists right? If they're terrorists, in what way is this supposed to do one goddamn thing to stop them? I can't fathom how, after being at war against terrorism for fifteen years, anybody in this country still honestly believes that a piece of paper is gonna prevent a terror attack. Okay maybe some people are scared, I mean it's called TERROR after all, that's to be expected, and in reaction to that fear certain irrational (temporary) beliefs are bound to arise. But the people in leadership, the people actually writing the bill and organizing the sit-in? They know exactly what they're doing.

It's not a bill at all, it's a political circus. Shit they're not even committed, "No bill no break" didn't even last 24 hours. It's a joke, and if it goes through it'll be abused, and everybody knows it -- but we're choosing not to care, because this time it's only gonna affect gun owners, not iPhone owners, so what's the big deal right?

TL:DR -- it's a stunt. Anything it is, more than that, is harmful to pretty much every kind of freedom we enjoy, so let's just not.

[scribz]

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Considering a good friend of mine -- an active-duty Air Force pilot currently commanding a flight school unit -- is somehow on the terrorist watch list -- I don't have a lot of faith in whoever's putting all that together and running it. Heck maybe they'll clean up their act, and maybe someday the watch list will run as smoothly as healthcare.gov. Or put it to you this way: let's say Donald Trump gets to decide who's on the terrorist watch list. Does that sound like a law that can coexist with the bill of rights as we know it?

More to the point -- it's a stupid feel-good law. We're talking about terrorists right? If they're terrorists, in what way is this supposed to do one goddamn thing to stop them? I can't fathom how, after being at war against terrorism for fifteen years, anybody in this country still honestly believes that a piece of paper is gonna prevent a terror attack. Okay maybe some people are scared, I mean it's called TERROR after all, that's to be expected, and in reaction to that fear certain irrational (temporary) beliefs are bound to arise. But the people in leadership, the people actually writing the bill and organizing the sit-in? They know exactly what they're doing.

It's not a bill at all, it's a political circus. Shit they're not even committed, "No bill no break" didn't even last 24 hours. It's a joke, and if it goes through it'll be abused, and everybody knows it -- but we're choosing not to care, because this time it's only gonna affect gun owners, not iPhone owners, so what's the big deal right?

TL:DR -- it's a stunt. Anything it is, more than that, is harmful to pretty much every kind of freedom we enjoy, so let's just not.

@mdk

Okay so what do you feel about the majority of conservatives that are in favor of the bill?

Should the no flying list be repealed as well considering it affects all people across the board?

Should the no flying list be repealed due it's far increasing relevance to people's well-being and freedom to travel?

Do you find the republican house not representing bipartisan support for gun regulation undemocratic?

[mdk]

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Okay so what do you feel about the majority of conservatives that are in favor of the bill?

Should the no flying list be repealed as well considering it affects all people across the board?

Should the no flying list be repealed due it's far increasing relevance to people's well-being and freedom to travel?

Do you find the republican house not representing bipartisan support for gun regulation undemocratic?

@scribz

1. It being a stupid idea is totally non-partisan.

2. The list itself, and the authority governing it, should certainly be looked at.

3. Freedom to travel through the sky in a recliner is not an inalienable right. The NFL is an administrative policy, legally made and specifically focused towards a single lawful purpose. Recklessly extending it beyond its scope, especially as a litmus test by which to deny ANYBODY his or her constitutional rights, is fucking ridiculous.

4. Sure. We're a representative democracy. The reason we have a house and a senate in the first place, rather than being governed by polls, is so that they can stop the frightened masses from overreacting in the moment. They're doing exactly their job, and yes, their job is 'undemocratic' at the moment. That's a loaded word and a dirty question, but the answer is yes, they're SUPPOSED TO. We set it up that way because occasionally pure democracy gets behind stupid ideas like this one.

[Keyguyperson]

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Considering a good friend of mine -- an active-duty Air Force pilot currently commanding a flight school unit -- is somehow on the terrorist watch list -- I don't have a lot of faith in whoever's putting all that together and running it.

@mdk

This right here. My uncle ended up almost missing a family reunion because he happened to SHARE THE NAME of someone on the no fly list. The real kicker is that the guy who's actually on the list is of a completely different race. He had to drive up north for the reunion instead of flying, and missed the full first day.

The guy who was on the list was also on there for nothing more than a single instance of theft. I mean, yeah, sure, he stole something and that's illegal. But the no fly list? What, is he going to threaten to crash a plane into the fucking White House unless they give him a thousand dollars' worth of silver jewelry?

[mdk]

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This right here. My uncle ended up almost missing a family reunion because he happened to SHARE THE NAME of someone on the no fly list. The real kicker is that the guy who's actually on the list is of a completely different race. He had to drive up north for the reunion instead of flying, and missed the full first day.

The guy who was on the list was also on there for nothing more than a single instance of theft. I mean, yeah, sure, he stole something and that's illegal. But the no fly list? What, is he going to threaten to crash a plane into the fucking White House unless they give him a thousand dollars' worth of silver jewelry?

@Keyguyperson

Same for my buddy. He takes three full extra hours to get through customs, every time, because there's a 7'3" Nigerian who uses his name as an alias. We're talking about a guy who literally flies planes for the government, is on the government's no-fly list.

And it's not, like, a weird name even. It's pretty common. So the same thing has to apply for like a hundred other people in the country too. That's what you might call a tainted well. Use that water to put out a fire if you have to I guess, but for god's sake don't drink it.