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@Buddha Of course they do. Raiders to the north of us. Raiders to the south of us. The sea to the west of us. Bloody Bastien to the east of us. Lethal position.
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@Kho 'Bloody Bastien' I dig it.
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@Kho one of these days... The north will rise up and reclaim what is rightfully ours!
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@Vec What is rightfully yours? Pah! We were masters of the land before you northmen knew the top of the mountain from its bottom! Damn mountain gorillas stealing our rightful riches...
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Right you old geezers. I see that you're all acting really nice to each other in the throne room. Great!

In all seriousness. I've read up and am all up to date now. I'm very pleased with how this is going. Tomorrow Elendin will finally respond!

@Ryuzaki If you can wait with posting till I post my response, that'd be great. That way we avoid a big clusterfuck or something.
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@Cyclone thanks for the copy ^^ was looking for it for my post.

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It just occurred to me that seeing as Chugo came cmpletely unexpected and unannounced (as everyone is so keen to point out ) Grenn wouldn't have had the chance to do some research on who he was beforehand.

It still could make sense for Grenn to know who Chugo is and that he's the Khan's cousin, since Chugo is somewhat famous and also happened to be part of a Khargat mercenary company for a while. I'll assume that the mercenary connection is how Grenn knows him, and that Chugo similarly has heard of Grenn.


That and since cousin is the most numerous family title for anyone I figured it was a good guess ^^
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My posts feel so short and insignificant to all yours. Well, I hope it brings some joy at least. Haha.
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So I'm going to assume that the lack of acknowledgement to Grenn means that he wasn't given permission to speak and therefore didn't say that bit of dialogue within the hider.

Tell me otherwise and I can edit my latest post to include some reaction on Chugo's part.
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@Cyclone He was not no. I tried to include it, but it didn't fit the Flow of my post anymore. >.<

EDIT: Doesn't Elendin get at least a little bit of respect for calling the Khargats part of the Empire? :P
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@Cyclone He was not no. I tried to include it, but it didn't fit the Flow of my post anymore. >.<

EDIT: Doesn't Elendin get at least a little bit of respect for calling the Khargats part of the Empire? :P


Well even from an OOC perspective I feel like everyone is doing Chugo a discredit by calling him childish and blaming him in part for an argument that he in no way wanted and didn't (intentionally, at least) start.

You can only imagine how pissed off he would be right around now. Yeah, he has respect for Elendin since he and Laxion (though Laxion nonverbally) are the only ones even remotely empathetic, but calling the Khargats anything less than part of the empire is exactly what has had them riled up for the past few decades.
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@Cyclone Eh, coming uninvited, with an army of a hundred Khargats (who proceed to majorly disrespect a 'holy' place - and they themselves are heathens), and not having announced his coming at an earlier point, and the entitled attitude (bringing slaves is definitely acting entitled and suggests that he does not under any circumstance expect to be turned away)...

would explain the less-than-ecstatic greeting Chugo has received. Elendin is probably being far too kind in allowing him to remain. A more appropriate reaction would probably have been a toned down, less xenophobic Rurik - Chugo and his men get sent back home immediately.
Allowing him to stay is definitely a kindness that will see Elendin get on the bad side of at least three advisers. I mean, trying to be nice to one adviser at the expense of making enemies of three others isn't great.

At the same time, Bastien drawing a sword in the throne room and questioning the young king so aggressively definitely deserves a harsh punishment of some kind. No matter how bad Chugo's arrival was, that's just a bit...woah.

But Elendin is still a boy-king, and in the context of him still being new and not wishing to overly antagonise any particular faction, his current course of action (until he can retire and find a better way to deal with it all, after some sage advice >.>) is for the best.
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@Cyclone Eh, coming uninvited, with an army of a hundred Khargats (who proceed to majorly disrespect a 'holy' place - and they themselves are heathens), and not having announced his coming at an earlier point, and the entitled attitude (bringing slaves is definitely acting entitled and suggests that he does not under any circumstance expect to be turned away)...


Avast, ye strawman! What he's done has been perfectly reasonable. (Am struggling to keep a straight face as I type this)

The uninvited part was nothing that Chugo could've helped because he was sent. Not like he decided he'd just pop up. Also, the fact that a Khargat wasn't invited is probably even more an insult than the fact that the Khanate sent someone regardless.

On a side note regarding the desecration of the holy place, I didn't move to correct anybody IC when it was stated that they were on Paragon Path and when Vec's post had them literally extort Layna because I found both situation hilarious and thought they'd improve the RP, but I had actually not intended for either of those two things to happen. The intent when I said here on the OOC that the Khargats were mostly being obnoxious near taverns and brothels was not that they were in Paragon Pah, because it seems a little strange that said taverns and brothels would be so close to that street. I said nothing about them trying to extort people, but nontheless if rich ole Layna wants to walk by I guess it's reasonable that she pays the Khan's toll.

But anyways, what is IC is already IC and canon so I'm rolling with it, even if it's dug Chugo into a deeper hole than I had anticipated.
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@Cyclone He did bring an army. Can't have his cake and eat it too xP especially if it's a Khargat cake, that thing will be eating you before you even start thinking about eating it...
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@Cyclone He did bring an army. Can't have his cake and eat it too xP especially if it's a Khargat cake, that thing will be eating you before you even start thinking about eating it...


'twas simply his bodyguard of merely a hundred men! That sounds like an army, but you have to realize that in medieval times it really wasn't that uncommon for generals and such to have over a hundred men as a bodyguard unit when they traveled or decided to actually participate in a battle. Chugo's title of 'Bey' would translate to something between 'lord' and 'general' so presumably this wouldn't be that unusual for a man of his status.

If we're going by actual medieval customs as precedent, I'd say Bastien would be the odd one out in that he was a major noble traveling alone.

Gosh, you'd think Chugo was some sort of barbarian animal by how everyone sees him!

Vote Chugo Bey for president 2016

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@Cyclone Rome Total War begs to differ! It only ever gives me generals 42 bodyguards or thereabouts. And if you play as the Parthians, your guard are mounted archers -_- who are flippin' useless (though, obviously, they shouldn't be)
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@FlynnSo I take it Grenn didnt get to do his say between the brackets (just for clarity).
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@Cyclone He was not [permitted to,] no. I tried to include it, but it didn't fit the Flow of my post anymore. >.<


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@Kho Thanks!
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@frapet Shame, I really enjoyed reading it, was a good chance for Torinus (and Laxion in an indirect way) to interact with him if even a little
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@Cyclone In medieval times, 100 men was a warband.
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