[OOC] The Iron Curtain: A Cold War NRP

[HeySeuss]

Badass to see you, Gunther. ;)

[Jannah]

Gunther said
2. Bundes Republik Deutschland (FRG)3. Canada

France is taken, but I don't believe we have a West Germany yet. I need somebody constantly at my backside ;).

[HeySeuss]

I have outstanding business with France, West Germany, the USSR and the UK (for giggles.)

France - Are we doing arms deals? Cause that happened in the 1950's for a variety of reasons.

West Germany - Reparations negotiations for Holocaust victims. Be prepared for some Jewish guilt.

USSR: שלח את עמי (Let my people go.)

UK: Until Attlee and Bevin are out, up yours.

[Jannah]

I just realized how dirty my last post sounded lmao. Omg xD.

[Rare]

HeySeuss said
I have outstanding business with France, West Germany, the USSR and the UK (for giggles.)France - Are we doing arms deals? Cause that happened in the 1950's for a variety of reasons.

Such, let me ask UK for support at Indochina. Should I add the deal to my post?

[HeySeuss]

We might be a little ahead of things, but I figure that the French and Israelis have a decent working relationship. Part of that has to do with French pressure on the UK during the post-war years and assistance to the Aliyah Bet -- mostly in ignoring British requests to stop Jewish immigration from displaced persons camps in France as well as voting for supporting the motion in the UN that led to Israeli statehood in 1948.

If that history holds, then we can work on the rest from there. I realized that French armament factories aren't up to snuff yet.

[Rare]

HeySeuss said
We might be a little ahead of things, but I figure that the French and Israelis have a decent working relationship. Part of that has to do with French pressure on the UK during the post-war years and assistance to the Aliyah Bet -- mostly in ignoring British requests to stop Jewish immigration from displaced persons camps in France as well as voting for supporting the motion in the UN that led to Israeli statehood in 1948. If that history holds, then we can work on the rest from there. I realized that French armament factories aren't up to snuff yet.

Yeah, I'll have to use the Fourth Republic effect on those factories ;) We could have a trade agreement someday..

[HeySeuss]

Rare said
Yeah, I'll have to use the Fourth Republic effect on those factories ;) We could have a trade agreement someday..

A lot of the stuff they used in Indochina in this time period was Lend-Lease, so yeah. Depends how you want to play that role.

[Rare]

HeySeuss said
A lot of the stuff they used in Indochina in this time period was Lend-Lease, so yeah. Depends how you want to play that role.

You'll see at my IC post what I do :)

[Rare]

I have posted!

[gowia]

Nation's full name: The Italian Republic
Population: 47,515,537 (1951 Census)
Current leader's name: Alcide Amedeo Francesco De Gasperi
Allegiance: NATO
Military strength: 49,250 (Worked out from number of active Italian Battalions, not sure what are standing down.)

[Gunther]

Nation's full name: Bundesrepublik Deutschland (BRD)
Population: 49,842,624
Current leader's name: Franz Blücher
Allegiance: neutral
Military strength: None. demilitarized Relies on USA, UK, and France for defense of nation

German Military situation

After World War II the responsibility for the security of Germany as a whole rested with the four Allied Powers: the United States, the United Kingdom, France and the Soviet Union. Germany had been without armed forces since the Wehrmacht was dissolved following World War II. When the Federal Republic of Germany was founded in 1949, it was without a military. Germany remained completely demilitarized and any plans for a German military were forbidden by Allied regulations. Only some naval mine-sweeping units continued to exist, but they remained unarmed and under Allied control and did not serve as a national defence force. Even the Federal Border Protection Force, a mobile, lightly armed police force of 10,000 men, was only formed in 1951. A proposal to integrate West German troops with soldiers of France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg and Italy in a European Defence Community was proposed but never implemented.

There was a discussion between the United States, the United Kingdom and France over the issue of a revived (West) German military. In particular, France was reluctant to allow Germany to rearm in light of recent history (Germany had invaded France twice in living memory, in World War I and World War II, and also defeated France in the Franco-German War of 1870/71; (see also French–German enmity)). However, after the project for a European Defence Community failed in the French National Assembly in 1954, France agreed to West German accession to NATO and rearmament.

With growing tensions between the Soviet Union and the West, especially after the Korean War, this policy was to be revised. While the German Democratic Republic (East Germany) was already secretly rearming, the seeds of a new West German force started in 1950 when former high-ranking German officers were tasked by Chancellor Konrad Adenauer to discuss the options for West German rearmament. The results of a meeting in the monastery of Himmerod formed the conceptual base to build the new armed forces in West Germany. The Amt Blank (Blank Agency, named after its director Theodor Blank), the predecessor of the later Federal Ministry of Defense, was formed the same year to prepare the establishment of the future forces. Hasso von Manteuffel, a former general of the Wehrmacht and liberal politician, submitted the name Bundeswehr for the new forces. This name was later confirmed by the West German Bundestag.

The Bundeswehr was officially established on the 200th birthday of Scharnhorst on 12 November 1955. In personnel and education terms, the most important initial feature of the new German armed forces was to be their orientation as citizen defenders of a democratic state, fully subordinate to the political leadership of the country. A personnel screening committee was created to make sure that the future colonels and generals of the armed forces were those whose political attitude and experience would be acceptable to the new democratic state. There were a few key reformers, such as General Ulrich de Maiziere, General Graf von Kielmansegg, and Graf von Baudissin, who reemphasised some of the more democratic parts of Germany’s armed forces history in order to establish a solid civil-military basis to build upon.

[HeySeuss]

I'm shocked we don't have the UK yet. But I'm glad we have France and West Germany filled in. These two countries are highly important to Israeli foreign policy.

[flylittlecat]

Okay someone please explain to me the logistics of how this RP is going to work

[Mr_Wiki_96]

Nation's full name: Czechoslovak Socialist Republic

Population: 14,235,000

Current leader's name: Antonín Zápotocký (He ruled from 1953 but I wanted to make him rule from 1950 because he had a more humane way of governing)

Allegiance: Warsaw Pact

Military strength: This required a ton of research as it was very difficult to find records of the military size due to a lot of military cutbacks when the Soviets took Czechoslovakia. In 1945, it said there was 16 infantry divisions(around 160,000 to 320,000) but as I said, there was a lot of significant changes when the Soviets came to power and over half of the officers as well as the soldiers were forced to leave. This is not an exact number but more of an educated guess of what it might be. I have no access to a census from 1950 as it is said that they are in the national archives in Prague, which I am not going over there just for an RP (no offence). If anyone does have exact information, then it would be appreciative. :)

50,000

[nautilusmp]

Sorry, guys, despite my previous declaration of interest, I have to drop out of the roleplay before I even began. It seems my roleplaying level have not yet met the criteria. Thank you very much.

[Pepschep]

(He ruled from 1953 but I wanted to make him rule from 1950 because he had a more humane way of governing)

*Takes notes*

[Omega]

i posted, Dutchbag, you will be interested in what i wrote.

[Omega]

flylittlecat said
Okay someone please explain to me the logistics of how this RP is going to work

Basically this is an RP where you have control of every single person in your nation to show various view points of the actions your nation takes.

[Pepschep]

Can't say I didn't warn you.