[OOC] The War of the Three

[TheWendil]

@Banana

I see the problem here; KoL's most recent post mentions roses. These roses are of Helena's doing, not Victoire's; they're probably made of blood because like Victoire, Helena is also a vampire. Does that clear some things up?

[Gardevoiran]

@TheWindel
Slightly, but that doesn't necessarily answer if BS can truly control them or not, which is what I was trying to figure out.

[TheWendil]

Slightly, but that doesn't necessarily answer if BS can truly control them or not, which is what I was trying to figure out.

@Banana

That's something to discuss with KoL and for KoL to clarify if they are in fact made of blood or not. Even so, I'm pretty sure the roses don't actually do anything and are just there for dramatic purposes.

[Gardevoiran]

@TheWindel
She outright stated in an earlier post that they were made of blood and that BS couldn't control them, but far earlier (Arcadia) she said this about them.

@Banana

If Bonesword wants a bit of her roses, Victoire is very well willing to make a deal with him. He would never be able to control them right without her permission, anyway, since the roses are part of her Primordial Vampire powers. He has the potential, all he needs to is think, "How much is this worth?"

It implies that BS could control the roses, although not well at all.

[TheWendil]

@Banana

But these still aren't Victoire's roses; these are Helena's roses. Hence Bonesword being unable to control them if they aren't Victoire's and not made of blood. Whether they work the same as Victoire's is up for KoL to clarify.

[Gardevoiran]

@TheWindel
They are made of blood.

<Snipped quote by Banana>

Do I need to answer that one? Obviously you can't control others' powers. Not only is that a big problem from an etiquette side but also those roses are made of blood, so they aren't normal plants.

And the only idea that these are different are really their colors and waht they do. These are purple, and they embody nothingness.

"Just you wait, there's far more from where this one came from," Helena shouted. She disappeared from her place at the tribune, leaving a burst of rose petals behind her as she reappeared above one of the many tall columns that dotted the arena floor.

"If you want to test my mettle, you are more than welcome to bring it on," Helena said as the faint perfume of roses filled the stadium as the columns in which Helena stood became covered in flowering hedges.

They're incredibly similar as to what we've seen, and the only thing left out was how they got there.

[TheWendil]

@Banana

Ah, I see the mention of them being controlled by blood. Still, I think it's best to wait for KoL to answer more thoroughly if they can be controlled, if only because it's flowers created by a different character.

[Gardevoiran]

@TheWindel
If it's the latter, then oh boy.

[Flood]

My two cents on this, Bonesword's sole powers are he can create and control plants, he can infuse his blade with Holy Energy to beat Demons, and he's a good swordsman. I think that it's somewhat unfair to deprive Bonesword of the first power when Ban found an interesting and creative counter to a character that is obviously way more powerful than all of us. Not even a full counter, just neutralizing effects in a small radius even.

[Lucius Cypher]

Dood, it's KoL. She always just makes characters who no-sells characters meant to No-sell or be some sort of a counter to her characters.

[Lonewolf685]

@Lucius Cypher@Banana@floodtalon

Guys, hands off your keyboards and step back for just a little while. KoL is having hardware issues but trying to get out a response as soon as she can, so give her half an hour and your questions will be addressed. Spamming speculation while she can't respond isn't going to clear up your confusion and only makes her post increasingly less relevant when it finally get's posted.

A little patience, please.

[Gardevoiran]

@Lonewolf685
Unaware of this. I'll stop asking any more questions until a proper response is addressed. I hope she fixes the issues soon.

[Lonewolf685]

There is no way for you to know, since a keyboard on the fritz makes it hard to speak up and all, but she's working on it.

[Lucius Cypher]

Well, in the meantime I guess I ought to figure out how to coordinate everyone to win this battle. While I trust everyone to competently save themselves, I doubt defeating Helena is just going to be a 1x1 ordeal. Though I can already see a few characters who could one-shot her, though in that instance it's just a matter of somehow getting them to even want to fight in the first place.

[KoL]

@Banana

Helena is a showgirl; she`s using misdirection ever since this battle began, the roses never had any effect and are only there for decoration. They are just for looks. There`s no usage for BS to control those roses. He can try and it`ll have no effect at all on the battle.

The thing eating away at your character's mind before was Helena`s own power via the blue roses from before. None of them having anything to do with Victoire, even if Helena tried to make it look like that with the flowers being made of blood.

Regarding Victoire`s own roses, I don't think Bonesword actually made the deal with Victoire on that. If he did, can you point it out for me?

[Gardevoiran]

@Banana

Helena is a showgirl; she`s using misdirection ever since this battle began, the roses never had any effect and are only there for decoration. They are just for looks. There`s no usage for BS to control those roses. He can try and it`ll have no effect at all on the battle.

The thing eating away at your character's mind before was Helena`s own power via the blue roses from before. None of them having anything to do with Victoire, even if Helena tried to make it look like that with the flowers being made of blood.

Regarding Victoire`s own roses, I don't think Bonesword actually made the deal with Victoire on that. If he did, can you point it out for me?

@KoL

This clears up more things than it should.

Also, BS didn't make the deal, but it was implied that he could still control the roses without the deal, although he'd have little power over them as he would effectively only have the rose part of a blood rose. If he had made the deal, we wouldn't be in this situation.

Edit: In any case, BS is tired of being useless, and he's coming in with power for this fight.

[KoL]

Also, BS didn't make the deal, but it was implied that he could still control the roses without the deal, although he'd have little power over them as he would effectively only have the rose part of a blood rose. If he had made the deal, we wouldn't be in this situation.

@Banana

Yes, he can partially control them, but it`s very flimsy. If Victoire were in active control of her magic, he could do nothing about it because they are of her creation, thereby, she has much more control about it. He can be an inconvenience at time and probably deter her a bit, but he`ll never control her demon roses completely without her permission.

[Gardevoiran]

@KoL
If he had time to study a singular rose, he could probably do it within a good amount of time, but in this case we don't have that, so...

Eh, he'll have to steal one next battle Victoire is in.

[Gardevoiran]

@Lucius Cypher
I did the thing before you told me to. Overachieving HOOOOOOOO-

^{also sorry for double post but eh}

[Lucius Cypher]

@Banana

Bad boy. Windel told you no more double-posting!

But also a good boy, because you're doing exactly what I told you to do before I told you to do it.

So it balances out.