[OOC] Legacy - Warhammer Fantasy-inspired War NRP

[ClocktowerEchos]

<Snipped quote by ClocktowerEchos>Yeah, sure. And in comparison owning giants, flying machines, tanks, rifles and explosive shell raining cannons is suddenly a balanced nation?
You may really need to work on your consistency here.

If you feel owning rocket artillery is OP then you may want to read the unit profiles in the characters page.

@Willy Vereb

And you might want to work on not consistently pushing limits set in the first place in the name of "creative freedom".
I know I'm not consistent, I never said I was, I have a tendency of contradicting myself if you haven't figure out.
If you honestly dislike how I run things, there's nothing that is binding you to this RP.

[Willy Vereb]

<Snipped quote by Willy Vereb>

And you might want to work on not consistently pushing limits set in the first place in the name of "creative freedom".
I know I'm not consistent, I never said I was, I have a tendency of contradicting myself if you haven't figure out.
If you honestly dislike how I run things, there's nothing that is binding you to this RP.

@ClocktowerEchos

???
Why are you acting defensive? I have nothing against you.
I just don't like the kind of argument you used here nor I understood your shocked reaction thus I gave you a proper context.
Besides, I thought your general attitude was "I don't care what kind of units you have so long you don't abuse it". And I molded my army after what I read from everyone else. Carefully measuring what would make sense and not be unfair for others.
So yes, I feel you might better take it easy.

[ClocktowerEchos]

<Snipped quote by ClocktowerEchos>???
Why are you acting defensive? I have nothing against you.
I just don't like the kind of argument you used here nor I understood your shocked reaction thus I gave you a proper context.
Besides, I thought your general attitude was "I don't care what kind of units you have so long you don't abuse it". And I molded my army after what I read from everyone else. Carefully measuring what would make sense and not be unfair for others.
So yes, I feel you might better take it easy.

@Willy Vereb

Guess what shit changes.
I don't need you to give me mental health advice, I know what my own issues are.
If you actually modeled your nation after everyone else's, you'd realize that:
1) Its all very, very warhammer fantasy based with most being heavily influenced by canon WFB and not much in the way of "I have a horde with everything it in since I want to be mongols with gunpowder".
2) No one else has a navy nor ever stated they need one.

Honestly part of me thinks that you are trying to give yourself some sort of leg up but I'll ignore that chain of thought. Someone as smart as you should have been able to realize certain limits without them having to be blatantly stated even through a language barrier.
Now, are you also going to give me more health advice and tell me to do yoga? I know I'm a tad bit pissed at the moment but I highly doubt that you'd be able to give effective health advice or calm me down or whatever. Call me crazy, I get it a lot.

[TemplarKnight07]

@TemplarKnight07So are the Uruk. Ratmen and beasts can be anywhere on the map so...just use that to your advantage. Where would the Vermintide strike next?

<Snipped quote by ClocktowerEchos>Many of them are in the line of basi-advanced-elite development line.
So I have raiders that are my basic units and then I have warriors with better equipment and skill. And then I get to the Royal Guards who deserve their status as Tier 4.
Similarly I have light, medium and heavy rocket artillery. Or have artillery ranging from wooden cannons to Basilik-like Great Bombards.
That's why I have 14 units types for the Uruk.
And maybe 15 if I add their T4 elite monster which would be kinda like the K'Daai Destroyer.

@Willy Vereb

I intended for the Vermintide to split up anyway upon the first strike at The Commonwealth, though it can arguably happen now, with one army basically going to meet the Dwarven Army, and the other heading towards the Empire of Yore (though that seems deserted as well). Basically three arms, one heading east, one heading south, and another heading west is the idea. The one heading east is the one without an enemy decided as of yet.

[Willy Vereb]

@ClocktowerEchosActually, I am not challenging your authority. I am just happening to be a honest person who actually communicates with you rather than just sneaking in whatever he wants.
Your frustration with me is perhaps understandable but then again, I am only different in the fact I actually willing to talking about this rather than just writing it down without batting an eye.

You do know me. You know what kind of player I am. I have been in couple of dozen NRPs and have exactly zero count of how many times I powerplayed or abused my power in order to dominate others. Why do we even need to get through this?

[POOHEAD189]

On the off chance I sound like an ass, and believe me if I do I am actually sorry. But maybe folks could do some less OOC posts and more IC posts?

[Willy Vereb]

On the off chance I sound like an ass, and believe me if I do I am actually sorry. But maybe folks could do some less OOC posts and more IC posts?

@POOHEAD189

Indeed. I wish this RP could be livelier.
I can make posts today but alas I am not even authorized yet to post my profile on the characters page.

[ClocktowerEchos]

@Willy VerebAgain then it shouldn't be all that hard to just remove rockets and navy and all this arguing would be more or less over with no?

If you do that then you're free to post. @POOHEAD189 has a point after all, I myself will look into getting post up soon.

[Willy Vereb]

@POOHEAD189@LauderI am apparently cleared to post in the IC. So how shall we get to the fight?

[SomeChap]

I wished to ask about the current geopolitical state of the map and the claims that people have. Namely, I'd like to address something that has been bugging me immensely.

Now...my main complaint is that WillyVerb has, in making his map claims, has reduced my nation immensely and completely boxed me in. As such, any actions I take must be against him... Can we get this rectified, please?

[Willy Vereb]

I wished to ask about the current geopolitical state of the map and the claims that people have. Namely, I'd like to address something that has been bugging me immensely.

Now...my main complaint is that WillyVerb has, in making his map claims, has reduced my nation immensely and completely boxed me in. As such, any actions I take must be against him... Can we get this rectified, please?

@SomeChap

That's blame of your location, not mine.
Tomb Kings are at the edge of the map and Vocab recently dropped out.
So you now only have me as your neighbors. Even without me you'd at best only have Lauder.
Well, I hope to be entertaining you as an enemy.

If not, you can fight Ratmen and Beastmen since they are apparently "everyhwere".

[ClocktowerEchos]

@SomeChapWould it be a stretch to say that perhaps the tomb kings had armies/land beyond their desert and thus have undead skellies popping up in places beyond just the desert? It'd give you more flexibility and also put you on the "everywhere" list the beastmen and rats are in.

[SomeChap]

@Willy Vereb Still, as it stands you do not NEED to engulf my nation, now do you? It would be nice to be able to expand into the wilderness or so on and find fights that are not against vaguely Mongol-Orcs all the time.

@ClocktowerEchos That is entirely acceptable, yes. Plus it means I get to go and pester all the people ever >:D

[Willy Vereb]

@Willy Vereb Still, as it stands you do not NEED to engulf my nation, now do you? It would be nice to be able to expand into the wilderness or so on and find fights that are not against vaguely Mongol-Orcs all the time.

@SomeChap

?
To my knowledge I made my claim before you did in this NRP. I never done with the explicit aim to engulf your nation, nor you were really isolated since there was Vocab's nation next to you.
Besides I face the same issue as in apparently I was closed off from everyone else.
Without Supreme Commander's claims I can perhaps move up my nation (albeit I'd probably need to keep Malibderan because my plot with it goes for quite a length.
You had weeks to complain about this and now you suddenly vilify me out of blue. You can expect me not taking this kindly.
Then again, I am not the one to hold grudges. Just remind you that your action is far from proper.
I hope Clock's idea of there being random Tomb King holdings everywhere else will work out for you.

Meanwhile I might redraw my map for the nth time so at least I can get into conflict with anyone who still plays this NRP.

[Willy Vereb]

@ClocktowerEchosGiven that Supreme Commander is absent for 3 weeks now, am I allowed to make territorial gains on Yore as my first IC action?
This would help to advance the story while giving me a chance to rearrange my borders in a way I can meet with other players.

[ClocktowerEchos]

@Willy VerebSure but only take a little, enough to get into action with a few others. I don't want to see you just take like half of Yore. Conquering land isn't the name of the game here.

[Willy Vereb]

@Willy VerebSure but only take a little, enough to get into action with a few others. I don't want to see you just take like half of Yore. Conquering land isn't the name of the game here.

@ClocktowerEchos

I'd be way too big if I were to conquer all of Yore. More like I planned to conquer enough to not make my connection to others seem anemic and probably lend territory which is closer to the Tomb Kings "back" to SomeClap.
So I get a decent looking territory, give more to another player and then I even get to be neighbors with others.
Sounds like a win-win situation to me.
Even if Supreme Commander returns I try to leave enough that his nation would be devastated (losing 20-30% territory is a tragedy IRL) but still viable.

[ClocktowerEchos]

@POOHEAD189 Got a basic beastmen post up for you to come at. The alphagor in question also has a stolen dwarf cannon, something I've wanted to do for a while. And just to trigger the dwarves.

[Willy Vereb]

@ClocktowerEchosI don't mind a Beastman or Ratman invasion, either. Just let us discuss exactly where. Depending on the location you might be fighting different defenders.
Which is a fun to work out in itself.

[POOHEAD189]

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