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@liferusher That may be a good idea Gm-chan.
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Just like anywhere else there is also death in this world. In most cases when you die there is nothing to it anymore, but some chosen ones might notice difference in that. It doesn't seem like they ever die after their heart stops beating. It is only a fact but it doesn't seem like there is a way to truly die except for aging old enough. Instead of dying they return back to the place where they have been at 10 am that day. When you are back to life again all the npcs that you have talked to between the starting point you are at now and the moment you die have no recollection that you have spoken with them. Things like carts and items that were moved in the meantime stay on the place they have been last put. People won't notice you suddenly appear between the crowd and say you have been standing there for quite some time. Your previous body disappears and the people around didn't notice you died either after your body has disappeared. They might not notice much difference but they feel a faint feeling of weakness. The gear that they wore when they died feels heavier. Spells feel harder to cast and they feel weaker in general. Only after having battled demon beasts or other creatures for some time the feeling will go away and they feel like their usual self again. One more thing, death hurts untill they are back alive again and they have to figure out themselves they can die over and over again.

Other players that killed you don't forget on how you died.

If a player died after killing countless of npcs, all the npcs that got killed by the player in the last 5 minutes will get back to life, they will go back to a point where they weren't involved with how they got killed yet and don't remember a thing.

If this happens with more than 2 players near each other they all have to die in order to get the npcs back to life.
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The Divine Protection of Salt Reasoning (塩の理の加護 Shio no Ri no Kago) is used by Reinhard van Astrea. It enables the user to never mistake salt with sugar.

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The Divine Protection of Gender Reasoning (塩の理の加護 Shio no Ri no Kago) is used by Reinhard van Astrea. It enables the user to never mistake males with females.
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@liferusher I considered giving something similar to the second one to Ryan, but I was going to call it the Divine Protection of Trap Detection.
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Other players that killed you are saw you being killed only know that someone has died and how they died, they can't remember who died. If they knew each other already nothing much would have changed about that. They will likely try to recollect the last conversation and find difficulties in doing that.

If a player died after killing countless of npcs, all the npcs that got killed by the player in the last 5 minutes will get back to life experiencing the same thing the player does but doesn't remember anything about having died or what they have done before they got killed.

If this happens with more than 2 players near each other they all have to die in order to get the npcs back to life.


So just to make sure I understand and for simplicity's sake using my example from earlier -

Tsuiho has been fighting/avoiding the Knight for a good week or so ICly. Tsuiho and Maria had a 1v1 fight somewhere trying to settle this little score they had. It was something set up a few days in advance - either because Maria knew about the Tsuiho's target and decided to intervene, or Tsuiho decided to get cocky and get the Knight off her back by killing her.

One of them kills the other.

What would happen then? This was building up for a week or so ICly, and both of them knew/assumed it was only going to end when one of them were dead. So the one of them kills the other. They just forget the whole thing happened? That entire week of ICly build up just gone?

Otherwise, they each knew who was supposed to die in that case because they knew who they were fighting and they've been pursuing the other for a week.

Or am I just over thinking this? xD
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@Rune_Alchemist OMG CAN I KICK YOUR CHARACTER UNNOTICED! LIKE KICK HER TAIL! IT WOULD BE GREAT IF SHE TRIES TO DO IT AGAIN AFTER THAT. frustrated and such
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Personally i think that nuances should exist for those whom possess the ability and rewritten for others.
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@Rune_Alchemist OMG CAN I KICK YOUR CHARACTER UNNOTICED! LIKE KICK HER TAIL! IT WOULD BE GREAT IF SHE TRIES TO DO IT AGAIN AFTER THAT. frustrated and such


Go for it? xD
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@liferusher I considered giving something similar to the second one to Ryan, but I was going to call it the Divine Protection of Trap Detection.


Luckily my character hates everyone so they dont even need to know who he/she is

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So just to make sure I understand and for simplicity's sake using my example from earlier -

Tsuiho has been fighting/avoiding the Knight for a good week or so ICly. Tsuiho and Maria had a 1v1 fight somewhere trying to settle this little score they had. It was something set up a few days in advance - either because Maria knew about the Tsuiho's target and decided to intervene, or Tsuiho decided to get cocky and get the Knight off her back by killing her.

One of them kills the other.

What would happen then? This was building up for a week or so ICly, and both of them knew/assumed it was only going to end when one of them were dead. So the one of them kills the other. They just forget the whole thing happened? That entire week of ICly build up just gone?

Otherwise, they each knew who was supposed to die in that case because they knew who they were fighting and they've been pursuing the other for a week.

Or am I just over thinking this? xD


-Shakes head in confusion-

uhhhhhhmmmm

I guess that might be a little bit troubling if they want to kill each other so badly.

They wont forget an entire week though.

Argggghh This is difficult T-T
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Personally i think that nuances should exist for those whom possess the ability and rewritten for others.


I didn't understand that, can you make it easier english X3
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@liferusher Meaning the others that can return by death would be exceptions.
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I didn't understand that, can you make it easier english X3


People with R B D remember things that occurred to them from other R B D possessors and those without the ability lose such information and memories begin to lose nuances.

Idk maybe im not understanding your vision tho. Does the ability return time back to what it was, or does it simply provide a respawn point akin to a base in an objective - based game?
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<Snipped quote by ADamnFiddle>

I didn't understand that, can you make it easier english X3


I think Fiddle was saying that there should be exceptions for those that can Return By Death. They can remember what happened, but other NPCs and people who can't return, don't remember - or lost the details of whoever died. It would keep things like the above scenario from being an issue.

But again, that does depend on you, GM-chan. I personally don't mind either one, but if the above scenario does happen then things could get quite...complicated, and complicated things/systems tend to be no end of problems in RPs from my experience.
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<Snipped quote by liferusher>

People with R B D remember things that occurred to them from other R B D possessors and those without the ability lose such information and memories begin to lose nuances.

Idk maybe im not understanding your vision tho. Does the ability return time back to what it was, or does it simply provide a respawn point akin to a base in an objective - based game?


Log horizon way, it gets you back to a respawn point. A small area around you resets time sort of. I try to make it that way at least. It is hard to do things with times travelling you know so it always leaves small errors

feel free to provide ideas
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<Snipped quote by ADamnFiddle>

Log horizon way, it gets you back to a respawn point. A small area around you resets time sort of. I try to make it that way at least. It is hard to do things with times travelling you know so it always leaves small errors

feel free to provide ideas


Then yeah the former is my suggestion for preventing such a paradox from occurring, as @Rune_Alchemist had stated.
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Then yeah the former is my suggestion for preventing such a paradox from occurring, as @Rune_Alchemist had stated.


I think this might be a better idea too. The only thing im afraid off is characters trying to kill other characters you know. They could go on endlessly
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@liferusher That'll also keep people from basically repeating posts in the long term.
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<Snipped quote by ADamnFiddle>

I think this might be a better idea too. The only thing im afraid off is characters trying to kill other characters you know. They could go on endlessly


That is also a problem, but I can't see a way that it'll not be a problem with any sort of respawn system. The only character I think that could possibly do that would be Tsuiho or Grian, but Tsuiho isn't the type to just randomly kill people without a reason too.

I dunno, I can think about it and see if I can come up with a solution, but I'm a bit busy at the moment.
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That is also a problem, but I can't see a way that it'll not be a problem with any sort of respawn system. The only character I think that could possibly do that would be Tsuiho or Grian, but Tsuiho isn't the type to just randomly kill people without a reason too.

I dunno, I can think about it and see if I can come up with a solution, but I'm a bit busy at the moment.


Well there is off course a debuff of weakness when you respawn but that doesn't give mean they completely stop fighting. they can just come back at each other after the debuff ended.
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