[OOC] Are We the Bad Guys? - A WH40k RP [Mature]

[Wraithblade6]

@Jbcool I think Tee is the only person who posts slower than you. However, he does tend to write a book at a time, so it's generally worth it.

[Jb]

@Wraithblade6 Who is Tee? And that's fair, I've done enough explaining.

[agentmanatee]

If I don't post tonight I'll quit for the sake of the r. Everyone I sit down to write some kind 9f bullshut seems to happen

[Sophrus]

No! do go manatee! i wanna know what the crazed medic does

[Jb]

@agentmanatee Yea, we'd rather you remained. 😊

[Wraithblade6]

@agentmanatee The rp would be very shaken if you left.

[Necroes]

@Jbcool Uh, boss, I think you got something mixed up....

The Empoeror's Children are Chaos aligned. As said on Lexicanium, quote,
"All trace of decency amongst the Emperor's Children had vanished by the time they partook in the Siege of Terra. While other Traitor Legions assaulted the Imperial Palace, the Emperor's Children embarked upon a spree of terror and gratification amongst the helpless citizenry of Terra. Millions of defenseless civilians were slaughtered and rendered down to create endless varieties of drugs and stimulants, countless thousands more dying to provide the Legionnaires with more direct and cruder pleasure."

NO ONE loyal to the imperium would ask them for help. Ever.

[Wraithblade6]

@Jbcool@Necroes

“You heard me! Send their last known location to the Astartes and request that they assist us against these raiders. Request mind you, the Emperor's Angels do not like being ordered around by mere mortals.”

So, I'm sure by "Angels" JB means either Blood Angels or Dark Angels, which must be nearby. The Imperial vessel is clearly not hailing Vedius.

And Vedius seems to have missed out on the battle on Terra.

[Necroes]

“Aye si-,” McNespey stopped and peered for a moment at the long-range scanners, rubbing the screen as if to remove a speck of dirt, then looking back to his commanding officer, “there's something else moving toward us, something smaller than an escort-class vessel, sir. It appears to be an Emperor's Child exploration craft.”

@Jbcool

Emphasis mine.

'Emporer's Angels' is just one of the chapter's nicknames from before the heresy. It references Fulgrim's influence on them to want to be perfect in everything, as well as the eagle's wing featured in their emblem. Admittedly, it's also been used on occasion as a generic term for space marines in general.

Ironically, the term likely wouldn't be used to refer to either the dark angels or the blood angels. The prior because they scare the piss out of basically everyone in the imperium capable of pissing, and the latter because they are the most respected and well-liked chapter among the imperial armed forces. It's well reflected in their chapter masters. Azrael is a scary mother-fucker who doesn't afraid of anything, and Dante... well, 1,100 years of dedicated service to the imperium speaks for itself.

[Wraithblade6]

@Necroes yeah, but they're not going to ask the wee little Emp's kids vessel to go after Eldar, especially if it's a traitor legion ship.

[agentmanatee]

@Wraithblade6 Its up

[Necroes]

I posted as well. I realized it had been quite a while.

[Jb]

Admittedly, it's also been used on occasion as a generic term for space marines in general.

@Necroes

Apparently you just answered your query without my help, showing that you were both wrong. Astartes are commonly called the 'Emperor's Angels of Death'by the common folk of the Imperium, I thought that was common knowledge?

Also, I think the fact you call the Emperor's Children a 'chapter' speaks for itself. That and the fact that Emperors Angels was in no way a legion-specific nickname for any one legion.

Nothing got mixed up, but thank you for pointing it out anway, he's actually talking about the Hawk Lords vessels (an actual Chapter of loyalist marines) that have finally arrived in system.

[Wraithblade6]

@agentmanatee A very good post! Thank you.

[Necroes]

First order of business; I vote we hijack a ship that doesn't cripple two of our number, and get something with some size to it.

[BCTheEntity]

@Jbcool I'll try to get a post out for this game as soon as I can.

@agentmanatee I don't want to sound like I'm being an ass, but I've been wrestling with how Lucius would act whilst Azazel is performing surgery, and have come to the conclusion that half an hour is a very long time to assume nobody will do anything regarding interaction with Azazel. In particular, I can't imagine Lucius being anything but hawkish when it comes to making sure Azazel doesn't pull anything untoward on his brother-marine, and I'm absolutely certain that he'd have no possible justification to allow Azazel anywhere near Xepherial's skull with any form of saw, all things considered.

What I'm saying is, barring meta-requests to the contrary- and if somebody has that sort of request, now's the time to make it, @Wraithblade6 in particular- I fully intend to have him intervene before that point, because there's no way he'd just sit there and let the psychopathic apothecary burrow into Xepherial's skull like that.

[Wraithblade6]

@BCTheEntity Well, thanks. If Thorn would intervene, or attempt to intervene, then don't feel afraid to act in character. I however am ok with Azazel putting a few plugs in Xeph's head. I mean, the guy has 4 servo arms and dentrites in his spine.

And besides, we need an excuse to temper Xeph's sudden stark loyalty. "Messing with his head" provides the appropriate story to make it happen.

[Necroes]

@BCTheEntity Also, Lucius isn't a trained medic. I mean, the list of injuries Xeph took is a quarter mile long, and ultimately cumulated with a pretty heavy blow to the head. Considering the sheer number of added features in a space marine's head, especially a tech-marine's, opening his skull for an operation would be completely justifiable. Any marine with an extended amount of experience would know that when a marine needs surgery, it'd be one Hell of a surgery.

That, and there's all of Azazel's underlings who would get in your way. From my understanding, they're all full-fledged marines themselves, and fully kitted with gear and power armor. If that's the case, and I admit it very well may not be, Lucius couldn't realistically fight them with hopes for success. Whether he'd try is up to you, of course, but he'd know going in his chances of success would be slim, in addition to the fact that he couldn't be sure he'd actually be 'saving' Xeph at all anyway.

[Jb]

First order of business; I vote we hijack a ship that doesn't cripple two of our number, and get something with some size to i

@Necroes

I bet you would...Professor X Ork.

Must be terrible for him not being able to blow peoples heads up with a wink, like some smelly green sorcerer.

@BCTheEntity@Necroes@Wraithblade6

If any of you have read the Night Lords trilogy by ADB - a series I highly recommend - and recall that we're going by the written lore here and not TT rules, then there's actually no reason why Xeph couldn't recuperate without surgery. Astartes don't have all the extra organs implanted in them for no reaso after all! There bones are denser and thicker than most basic armour, their blood clots itself as their body accelerates the healing process, and if needs be he could simply put himself into a semi-coma and wait to heal.

Marines have taken far more than being smashed in the head by an Ork and survived.

I'm not going to 'intervene' at all, and Lucius doing so could add some entertaining drama to the scene, but just thought I'd reiterate that Astartes are the peak of human bio-engineering and (although not impossible to kill) are the toughest sons of guns to destroy alongside Necrons, some Orks and some Tyranid organisms.

[Necroes]

Marines have taken far more than being smashed in the head by an Ork and survived.

@Jbcool

Well, he didn't Just take a blow to the head from an ork, that was just the most recent. As I recall, he's fallen several stories only to be impaled on a large spike, in addition to taking a large volley of bolter fire. I feel like there was more, for some reason, but can't find it.
Anyway, my point is, basically any of those things would outright kill a normal human, several times over. More importantly, though, the extra organs marines are implanted with are fully capable of being damaged to the point of needing repair. Being as most are situated in the chest, and that's where the spike hit him, there's plenty of room to allow for the need of surgery. That a trained apothecary stated he'd be dead without the appropriate care acts to confirm that he needs it.
Marines are tough, but Xeph has taken the kind of damage that could put one down. In addition, he's a techmarine, so it's entirely possible his mechanical enhancements were damaged in the process, and That's why he's dying.

I'm not saying it's Impossible for a healing coma to pull him through, but the Sus-an membrane has its limitations. The most important of which is that, if he Did enter the coma, he'd need an apothecary to wake him up anyway. Plus, how long it would take him to heal those wounds is entirely uncertain. That is, of course, assuming the Sus-an wasn't damaged to the point of being inoperational by either the fall or the bolter fire, which can happen. The fact that he's still bleeding means that at least one of the organs which are responsible for preventing that has also been damaged, which manatee indirectly addressed in his post.

Marines wear armor for a reason. Yea, compared to a human they can take a lot, but that's really not saying much. That's why I don't go by the books, they make marines out to be a lot more than they are. The truth is, space marines die all the time. That's why every chapter is Constantly training new recruits, despite the 1,000 marine limit stated in the Codex Astartes. In the grand scheme of things, in a world where standard-issue weapons are literally automatic mini-RPG launchers, they aren't the nigh invulnerable demi-gods the books act like they are.