[OOC] Foreign Legion [First Contact/Uplift/Military Sci-Fi]

[JDolan]

I've thrown in with 2C and have amended the Google Doc for that. Should have a post later today.

[Therealslayer]

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Yes! You also have the Russian character, [@Depressed Soviet] as your Team Leader and @Hellis' character, HEDBERG as your squad leader. I typically have brown rice with my chicken and Broccoli! ;)

@Gunther

Alright perfect, then I should wait for the leader to post?

Brown rice tastes too much like oatmeal to me (and I have oatmeal every morning), so I go with basmati rice with my chicken :D I just made myself an awesome cheat meal, if ever you want to try it: three egg omelette with red peppers, onions and bacon caramelized with maple syrup in a whole wheat burrito with a spicy mayo sauce. Borderline orgasmic I tell you.

[Gunther]

I just made myself an awesome cheat meal : three egg omelette with red peppers, onions and bacon caramelized with maple syrup in a wholewheat burrito with a spicy mayo sauce. Borderline orgasmic I tell you.

@Therealslayer

mmm, that does sound yummy. My breakfast consists of 1/2 cup oatmeal with chia seeds, two or three hardboiled eggs and a black coffee. My kids tell me the chia seeds taste like dirt.

[Therealslayer]

They do on their own I guess xD but I hardly taste them with oatmeal and almond milk. I usually add in peanut butter in there and some Greek Yogurt to get that good fat. I love food so much, I would marry food if that were a thing.

[Gunther]

I have the greek yogurt and 2 teaspoons of chia seeds at lunch along with some turkey and romaine lettuce. That's pretty much my entire diet here on this forum with a few fruit or egg snacks mixed in someplace.

[Gunther]

@JDolan was the first to mention the lack of a roll that should be felt by a ship at sea! Woo Hoo! I was looking for that one. ;)

[Gunther]

Now they were outside the wire in the thick running about dressed in barbie's discards.

...but the negligent discharge of a firearm, well that was just plain audible.

...the one who seemed to be in a leadership position sniffed at the air curiously though very slowly began to level its weapon their direction, Boggs took no chance "Weapons free, weapons free!" came through clearly over the net, firing commenced, incoming and outgoing it was loud, caused displacement of loose foliage and the shattering of the less strengthened branches,

Two rounds, two rounds, two rounds.

@Lord Shaxx

Man, I physically laughed my arse off when I read the "barbie's discards" comment. That was great! :D
the "just plain audible" comment was humorous also. Love it.
Looks like we are in the shit now.
I will retain Sergeant Boggs as the PSG. Hua
As a side note, Atwater and Boggs were the last two dudes in the entire column. The Asst PSG, one MG team and the two AT gunners were between 2 and 3. But that is trivial. I love it, you write well, bro.
On a side note, another common expression for "two rounds" is "Double tap".

[Lord Shaxx]

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Man, I physically laughed my arse off when I read the "barbie's discards" comment. That was great! :D
the "just plain audible" comment was humorous also. Love it.
Looks like we are in the shit now.
I will retain Sergeant Boggs as the PSG. Hua
As a side note, Atwater and Boggs were the last two dudes in the entire column. The Asst PSG, one MG team and the two AT gunners were between 2 and 3. But that is trivial. I love it, you write well, bro.
On a side note, another common expression for "two rounds" is "Double tap".

@Gunther

I'm glad you enjoyed it, mate. A lot of my issue with writing is never really knowing if I'm delivering, especially with the range of vocabulary I see in other people's work. Just going to go through and fix any spelling mistakes.
Yep, rounds are blowing, birds are flowing. I wanted to show just how real their situation was.
My bad mate, I'll go ahead and adjust that if you'd like, wouldn't be much of a bother to go through and relocate.
I was actually stumped on what to use in place of "Two rounds" I knew a few others to use but I didn't feel that they went with the way I intended to write it.

[Bee]

I'll get a post up soon!

[Gunther]

I noticed there was a conversation last night about Armored Personnel Carriers (APCs) and Infantry Fighting Vehicles (IFVs). I do not have the time to sit on Discord and chat for long periods of time, but I try to catch up when I can. The best way to get ahold of me, is via a PM here on the forums.

I was thinking about this yesterday afternoon and like yourselves, had a few ideas. In order to think about using tracked or wheeled vehicles, @HeySeuss must answer the question, Are there open tracts of land on Saina? Do roads exist, if not why would Centurion build roads where none exist? especially, on a planet where the inhabitants live beneath ground.

I have several options I have considered for our use in Foreign Legion. First is using trucks/lorries to move our squads and platoons around. I admit I have been working on a detailed organizational structure for the Centurion PMC. It is an oversized Brigade element or a small division. I have included trucks and a helicopter type vehicle to move troops around. With the helo, there must be open tracts of land, these vehicles cannot land in the jungle.

Option 1: 5-ton Truck/Lorry

You can comfortably sit 13 or more people in the back with or without the canvas and bows in the rear. You can fill sand bags and cover the floor of hte truck bed with them. You can take the roof off the cab and install a ring mount to place a machine gun or auto grenade launcher on top with a gunner in the passenger seat. Several armies around the world use "Motorized Infantry". The term motorized simply means the unit moves in wheeled vehicles.

Option 2: USMC AAVP7

The Amphibious Assault Vehicle, Personnel was designed for the USMC with their 13-man squads. It mounts an auto grenade launcher and a .50 cal MG. It carries a crew of 3 and can seat up to 21 combat marines. The Marines have Amphibious Assault battalions in their divisions who's sole purpose is to carry line marines into battle. They are amphibious and can be used to swim to shore via some landing ship. In the organization I am working on, I created two battalions of these AAVPs simply to transport the line units

Option 3: Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle (EFV)

The EFV is the replacement to the AAVP. It can travel a lot faster over water. It carries a crew of three and 17 fully loaded marines. It mounts a 30mm auto cannon similar to the one mounted on the M2/M3 Bradley IFV and a coaxial M240 MG. This vehicle would be perfect for our needs if there are large oceans and seas on Saina.

Option 4: Israeli Namer

The Namer is nice simply because it has Remote Control Weapon Stations (RCWS). But that system can be installed on every vehicle we talk about here. It is not unique to the Namer. The Namer is armed with an auto grenade launcher and .50 cal MG. the advantage the Bradley has, is the 25mm bushmaster cannon. The Namer seats a crew of three and 9 soldiers. The Bradley seats a crew of 3 and 7 soldiers. In either case, we would need two of these IFVs for each squad in our organization. I would honestly urge you to not select this vehicle primarily because we would need 8 vehicles per platoon.

Option 5: Aerospatiale SA-2 Samson

This is a fictionalized dual inducted rotary fan helicopter as seen in James Cameron's Pandora. Either Aerospatiale or the Grathik may have developed this for our use. What I love about this vehicle is its looks. It is very bad ass in appearance. The Samson mounts a pair of .50 caliber tri-barreled Hydra Machine guns which can fire a uranium tiped needle round. It can mount a pair of M240 MGs instead of the sci fi Hydras if needed as well as two 3.75" rocket pods. The Samson can carry up to 16 people with a crew of four. It would be perfect, but it is fiction. Personally, I am OK with that.

Option 6: V-22 Osprey

The V22 is a vertical take off and Landing (VTOL) aircraft that can fly like a helicopter or like a fixed wing aircraft. This gives it the advantage to land anywhere and fly faster than any helicopter on the planet. The V22 can mount three machine guns, one on each side and one on the rear ramp. The Osprey can seat 24 loaded soldiers. It can be used for airborne operations as well.

Option 7: Fictional Infantry Fighting Vehicle.

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If someone would like to create a tracked or wheeled vehicle armed with 25mm cannon, .50 cal MG, 7.62mm MG and/or AT systems employing RWCS and can move 17 combat loaded soldiers, go for it. Even if we give it a fictional name with these characteristics, that might work too.

@CaptainBritton@Hellis@Vietmyke@Lord Shaxx

[HeySeuss]

@Gunther So much of the IFV conversation was entirely exploratory with the intent of thinking it through ahead of time. Sauna does have some open areas devoted to agriculture which might be effective for IFV's. However, there are lots of caverns, and these are large and urbanized, with what I presume would be rail systems.

Saina probably does have transport infrastructure, but I don't think the Pilavians are believers in individuals moving around in vehicles, so they might stick with rail and other forms of fixed-public transit because they evolved from animals that relied on a volume breeding strategy to survive. Moving in groups and not being caught out as individuals is part of the psyche. They might even get a little panicky when isolated.

So I'm guessing that the open areas would be A) agricultural areas on the surface and b) potentially underground areas with lots of room cleared out. That'd be a very different kind of MOUT.

Beyond that, it was a straightforward discussion of what sort of IFV might be supporting the Centurion troops directly.

It is also entirely possible that it's more feasible, given the tech and the distances/numbers involved, to dedicate air support assets to them, such as air-drones with 30mm cannons analogous to Cobras or Apaches. (and, overhead, A-10's and AC-130's) The infantry would be entirely air mobile and their dedicated CAS would be drones with no physical crew and lots of loiter time, supplemented by other types of craft to support that effort.

Basically, I think the Grathik are using lots of drone pilots and no human pilots crewing air vehicles except for transports, because they can easily preserve their pool of experienced pilots that way.

[vietmyke]

I am a fan of the Samson though. I always thought the tech was one of the coolest parts of the movie

[Lord Shaxx]

I'm all for the AMTRACKs and EFVs. If the Namer/Bradley were to be used I'd say it would be better off for small units doing extended isolated patrols. I don't know what these are called by these Buggies, I'd say could be used for LRRP or just doing hit and runs, they could probably squeeze about 5 lads in there (2 front, 1 gunner and 2 clinging to the back trying to not fly out).

I like the idea of the Samson, and given it's cousin the Scorpion Gunship I can easily see them filling in, in the same way Blackhawks and Apaches/Cobras are. Scorpions providing support for Samsons bringing in the lads. Though since we're pretty early on for tech the Osprey is completely cool to use.

[CaptainBritton]

I'm definitely a sucker for Amtracks. The EFV also peaks some interest. As for air vehicles, all of the above seem fitting.

[Therealslayer]

For land vehicles, I'm really inclined towards a wheeled Humvee like this

As for flying, the Samson is awesome. I guess it's kind of like the sci-fi version of an Apache. This one looks great as well.

[Cara]

Ill get a post in tomorrow, still digging myself out of the snowpocalypse :(

[vietmyke]

@Therealslayer humvees are in a different class of transportation than ifvs, considerably less armored too

[Reaper]

If Sci-Fi options are available...





I love the aircraft of the Halo series.

Or perhaps the Banshees and Medivacs from Starcraft?

As for IFVs... I'm putting the Warrior up for consideration:



I mean, I love how it looks, though a close second would be the Bradley.

[DepressedSoviet]

I would like to propose the BMP-3

BMP-3

And for a helicopter/VTOL role, I propose the Mil Mi-8M and its international multitude of variants

Russian Air Force Mi-8AMTSh

[Gunther]

The Mi-17 is a good option too. It doesn't have the speed performance of the V-22 Osprey but can carry the same number of troops and be used for airborne operations. It also has better armaments. The BMP-3 falls into the same category as the Israeli Namer or the American Bradley. It cannot lift 17 troops in one hall; meaning we cannot put a full squad on one vehicle. We would need 8 vehicles per platoon. That is excessive. That would be 26 vehicles per company.