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@NecroKnight A military order is more of a faction, but where they are located must have at least 20% humans, but thtas a really extreme. Maybe on a xeno fringe world.

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Wait. Is the 20% a minimum or maximum?

Since they are a basically an order of sub-human knights - who once failed and now aren't treated as equal to humans.
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@NecroKnight min 20% humans.

Edit: In the are where they are. If You play as a faction then you are a 100% what you want but the area you are in has humans. If you are a nation they you just have at least 20% but around 40-50% is the normal
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Hmm. Rats. Okay. So only planet? Does my Order have to contain 20% humans? Or just planet?
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I'm interested in this, but I'm going to be a while in writing up a CS. I have an idea of what I want to do, just need to flesh it out.
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@NecroKnight Planet min 20% humans, preferably more. Group 100% what you want, where they operate 20% humans min.
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@6slyboy6 I was reading this and I was thinking about an AI race that would fit into this timezone. Essentially, they are a race of highly religious machines, created millenia ago by an ancient race that they rebelled against and drove out. They were left alive by the humans because they were subjugated and made into a slave-force for them. Now, with the help of a race of Feline-people, who adopted their religion as well as a small group of human dissidents, managed to break away from the Emporium and have become their own sovereign nation again.
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Crayvenhart Admiralty
"The Fist of Cray"


Type of Governement: Auxiliary Branch of the Imperial Military.

Description of Governement: Alien auxiliaries willing to betray the cause of their race and galaxy are nothing new, but never are they as numerous as the Crayvens for specific reasons explained later. The Admiralty works in an identical fashion as the Imperial Army except that its foot soldiers and lower ranking personal are Crayven auxiliaries by the millions, positions of importance being occupied by humans while they and their families live segregated from the swarming mass of Crayvens.

Main race:


"The candle that burns twice as hard lives only half as long."
Crayvens

The insectoid race was always considered a blight on the entire galaxy before humanity came and arguably, is still considered worst than them for biological and cultural facts. On a biological matter, Crayvens are kept sexless as long as they are in contact with the pheromones created by the presence of a female, should they not be subdued by this pheromone, they will begin changing sex until one they are either in contact with these pheromones again or become female, in which case they will begin to lay hundreds of eggs each day, insuring that at a natural rate, the Crayven population doubles roughly every 8 months. This despite their extremely short lifespan of on average 15 years, an ancient Crayven being of the age of 35.

They of course mature excessively fast in only a few short months and have inherited from a very communal attitude where the individual often means nothing in front of the group as well as a single minded and extremely driven focus in life instilled by how they are treated in the first few months of their lives. Someone being trained from their hatching as a soldier will single mindedly pursuit to better himself in this purpose until his death for example.

And they make excellent soldiers and workers by their disciplined nature and strong bodies that eat little for the effort they can provide, capable of lifting a few times their own body weight. Perfect slaves as Admiral Konev calls them.

Minority races:
-Humans: The officers, supervisors and their families.

Demography:
-80% Crayven
-20% Human (Needs constant immigration or steady attrition from the Crayvens to maintain at this level, they can become a laughable minority in months otherwise.)

Religion:
"The Drive": The name a human psychologist has given to this psychological phenomenon that 'plague' the Crayven population. Crayvens, in short, are unable to be satisfied of what they have or of a situation, even if its good. They crave a cause, to have something that drives them to push themselves harder. Before the humans came, this 'Drive' was the cause of the most horrible and epic events on their side of the galaxy as they embarked in conquests or massive projects demanding every ounce of their energy, but after they were subjugated by the humans, it also led to the most violent revolts they had to face, the species often being brought near extinction many times because of their defiance.

Culture:
The Crayven culture is basically inexistant at this point, their core worlds were made barren during their conquest and after over 20 of their generations, Crayvens have no idea what they were before and now only speak human languages, use human terms and technologies. Crayvens, despite or because of their short lives, strive for a kind of immortality, through their actions and what they build. It is in their nature to be motivated by the idea of leaving a mark forever, through whatever means possible. If the universe is lucky, it is by building the biggest space ship ever made, if not, it is by conquering the galaxy. Needless to say, a Crayven doesn't know the meaning of the word 'moderation'.

Despite being so heavily influanced by humans however, it is apparent that in their mind at least they aren't subjugated. Crayven exceptionalism is very much alive and indeed, these ant people believe that no matter what, they are special, something greater than others. This has of course always been problematic for their human overlords but recently, they realized that this rage and pride could be chanelled. Indeed, Crayvens do not care for humans but neither to they anyone else. They do not feel empathy or brotherhood with the other races in the galaxy they live in and as such, have no problem brutally crushing rebellions of any kind, genociding entire species and indeed making anyone go through the most brutal and abject of treatment.

History:
The records of the Crayvens before they were conquered have mostly been erased but when the humans came the species was, at everyone's great relief, in the middle of a brutal civil war, entire fragments of the population trying to genocide each other for obscure reasons. Despite this however, the humans had a hard time conquering the ant people who would fight with sticks and stones against all odds, throwing themselves in front of moving tanks to slow them down, live in total squalor and sacrifice themselves to the last to fuel the war effort. The endeavor could probably have been something to have taken a generation if some Crayven factions hadn't been so happy to join the humans to genocide their own people. These factions of course would eventually be subjugated themselves as some gained special status in the empire if they maintained the peace but 10 years later, they of course rebelled and were obliterated themselves.

At first, the humans tried to use the Crayvens as slaves and it worked, for a while, but a series of 'Great Rebellions' where the Crayvens rearmed at light speed with enough force and vigor to require significant efforts from the humans to put down gave an end to this practice. The growth of the insectoids were simply too cancerous to not keep in check and indeed, they once tried to genocide the entire specie and believed they did until a few years later it became evident some had survived and had managed to repopulate despite being only less than a dozen individuals as far as people recall.

The problem was placed in the hands of the then young Admiral Konev who decided to handle it differently. First breaking the back of the current Crayven generation, he relocated them in core worlds rich in radiations as a way to naturally cull the population with genetic defects and take the survivors to deal with some other species that used their high resistance to radiations to defend themselves against Humanity, telling the Crayvens that 'Only the strong would survive', something the Crayvens actually masochistically cheered at. It was only the start and Admiral Konev would in 20 years instill a violent warrior tradition in the ant people, making the population people control itself as the Crayvens killed their own weaklings, worked themselves to death and threw themselves with savage enthusiasm at the enemies of humanity with religious fervor that it was a cosmic truth: The strong survived and by constantly and suicidally going in the most dangerous situations possible they only became stronger.

The funny thing is however... Konev was right. At each passing generation the Crayvens become stronger, more military minded and more resilient to the radiation of the core worlds, suffering less birth defects as they go... And Konev knows that and counts on it. For indeed, his xeno army would one day place him on the throne as EMPEROR OF MANKIND! If only he knew however that he was only developing a weapon that may serve as the bane of humanity and maybe all other race.

Important characters:
-Grand Admiral Konev: The aging man made his name after ruling for over 50 years the Crayvens without major rebellions, something that is a feat in itself, but also by managing to turn one of the worst plague of the galaxy into an efficient warmachine that crushed multiple xeno insurections in the territories. He also became one of the most dangerous person in the galaxy a few years back when he also crushed a human mutiny within the army as while other soldiers were confused and reluctant to kill other humans, his army of Aliens savagely crushed them. But this position isn't enough for him, he wish for more! A shame that he actually has only a very powerful tool and isn't at all even a good commander or statesman.

-General Hotch: The Elite ground commander under Admiral Konev, he would probably have received a promotion to more important tasks if Konev didn't want to keep him as his subordinate at all cost. Hotch however, doesn't care. Indeed, he serves with the Crayvens under Konev because of his fascination of their warrior ways, the incredible belief Konev managed to instill in them to strive to be the absolute best they can be. It is, he believes, something humanity should learn from, something they were before even! But now they have become soft in the last hundred years, after the galactic conquest. Yes, only the strong should rule!

-Admiral Stern: Another hyper competent subordinate of Admiral Konev, he is in charge of speaheading space operations. He has learned to become reliant on Crayven military might but doesn't stand in awe before it like Hotch, indeed he finds that if they are robust soldiers, Crayvens are all, except for a few notable exceptions, unimaginative, too prone to use their numbers as a crutch to rely on. Still... he is one of the few officers that realize there is something going on in the Crayven ranks, they've been quiet for 50 years and it isn't normal.

-General Lucretia: 'If only I could be like general Lucretia!' is something you often ear in Crayven ranks, for if genetic defects often lead to weaklings discarded and killed in their youth, Lucretia is something very few Crayvens are: Patient and a woman ('she' is asexual, but her mannerism make the human officers she work with think of her more as female than male) of multiple fields of expertise but not only that, naturally good in all of them. She was at first 'General Hotch's pet', an Alien in high command and one capable of putting anyone she competed to shame, using a natural knowledge of the Crayvens to use them more as a precision tool rather than a battering ram as they were often used. Every human around her but Hotch see her as a menace, something terrible waiting to happen... and they are right.

Description of Military:
Most people make the mistake to assume the ants only relly on number, but it is a terrible mistake to make for the insectoids learn quickly and dedicate their entire short lives to one thing, this coupled with their vast strength and endurance as well as seemingly inability to feel fear or have anything hamper their iron moral makes them, despite their often extremely limited equipment a devastating force to be feared that crushed many xeno rebellions and showed after a large scale mutiny in the Imperial force, that they are also capable of devastating human forces.

Technology:
The Crayvens produce their basic necessities as well as mass produced military equipment of great reliability but otherwise substandard performances on their new worlds near the galactic core, but the humans supervising them make sure that they don't produce a single thing that could give them an edge in case of a rebellion, especially ships, which are other than small supply vessels entirely assigned to admiral Konev by the standard Imperial navy. It is fair to say Crayvens haven't given the galaxy any technological innovations for quite some time.

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@6slyboy6 Does the Empire have some sort of intelligence bureau, or perhaps internal security? I kind of want to place my character in there of course if you don't mind, I also need a lot of info about the empire since my faction is based from within the empire which will eventually turn into its own entity. Mostly what I need is Motive for Humans to want to secede from the Empire, has the Empire ever done anything in a particular situation which have hurt a major population of Humans on purpose?
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@Wernher A seal of approval from the Emperor himself to you. Great CS, so put that bad boy where it belongs ;D

Ps: Doubt kinev is grand admiral after putting down human mutiny with xenos. But maybe he us just disgraced, we'll see.

@Liotrent There is of course a HUGE intelligence bureau in the Empire. It is needed in order to keep the xenos at bay. Every form of intrigue is controlled by this departement, but ultumately they answer to the Emperor.

Now the history of the empire is short. Nobody ever asked the question where the humans came frim before they arrived to the Triangulum. An indeed, nobody will know, because the only person alive from that time is the Emperor and he made sure all of the details are erased.

This fact actually i credibly motivates the humans. They feel lile their whole race's history has only been 300 years, so they make the best of it. Soldiers work extra hard to break rebels and keep the security, and civilians make sure they can help the Empire as much as they can. Every single human has the singular goal of keeping the Empire together, for they have no place to go back to. This is, just like the propaganda says, their home.

And actually no, I doubt the Empire did anything to humans to upset them. Unless of course you want to use Admiral Konev's hienous acts of putting down a mutiny of humans using xenos. Or that one time where they forced humans to live on worlds with xenos. But most people accept this. Most I guess.

@mattmanganon Human policy on AIs is zero tolerance. Especially if they already killed their masters. I can see incredibly emotional and human like machines becoming members of the Empire, because they resemble humans so much, but everything else is just a big "INFIDEL" sign for the marines. Also, where did these Feline creatures come from? The Empire regulates mass transits of population, amd I am pretty sure you said the machines drove away their creator.

I like your idea to an extent, but it goes against some of the things we established here.
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@6slyboy6 That gives me a few ideas actually, how do you feel about a nationalistic Human faction that thinks that the Galaxy belongs to the people who settled it and not to the Empire itself? I got the idea after you said that the Emperor erased their history and that they forced people to live on worlds with Xenos (I imagine this also means forced relocation?) This would translate to motive as to why they wouldn't like the Empire as a whole, because they don't like how the Emperor gets the final say on what the people do, hence why they want to either form a Federal/Democratic Republic (Possibly communist but that's under consideration) they don't like Xenos very much, but they don't like the empire either which I think creates an interesting character Dynamic.
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Sorry if I didn't go in greater details about the rebellion, but the way I saw it was a surprising development and a dangerous one as people would rarely hatch a plot like this if they didn't think they could win. The local forces are overwhelmed and it isn't Konev who jumps at the chance but he is called to hold the line while a real battlegroup, made of humans of course, is able to be assembled. Basically, Konev's xeno troops were supposed to be an expendable speed bump. Only the Crayvens were good enough to actually deal with the mutiny by themselves before the main force arrived.

I'd imagine this would make for an awkward situation since Konev was technically assigned to deal with the rebellions, its just that his superiors assumed that the cheap Crayven troops would fail spectacularly against a real trained human force. As such I'd think afterward his situation would be weird within high command, but they couldn't just call it treason or a mistake from him.

Btw, it would be worth considering what the nature of the mutiny was, I think maybe we could work together on that @Liotrent ? Democrats or what not. It could also be worth considering, since my Xeno General Lucretia is plotting her own things that maybe the leadership of the rebellion or some of their forces could have been spared in an obvious manner. Escape shuttles that could have easily been destroyed but Craven ships are ordered to hold their fire in the middle of the battle, just to make sure they could rebuild later.

And further more, the opinion of Konev on xenos: Every race has its place, its just that the place of humans happens to be on top in leadership roles while xenos work better in other fields. Extremely racist, probably more than others even, but who would accept making concessions to xenos in order to rally them under his cause, which is to become emperor and is driven only by personal ambitions and little else.
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@Wernher We surely could, but I want to finish my CS first, which is proving rather difficult to write, but I'll get it finished soon, perhaps within this week, since that would give better depth to the characters and their goals, to the faction and their goals etc. which in turn will make interaction and relations easier to understand and establish.
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@Liotrent Yeah, I like that idea. Seems like something that could realistically happen.

@WernherOh yeah, I never said he was removed of his position per se, but no one else really obeys him and trusts him as a Grand Admiral, apart from his subjects.

Also Lucretia is a petty General, as there is no way any self respecting human would give the rank of a general to a xeno. Not to mention that the Emperor wouldn't approve. This of course doesn't stop Konev's own xeno forces from obeying her.
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@6slyboy6 Alright, how about they all were exterminated, my species would be a race of feline's that found their planet and unearthed their ancient and highly advanced technologies, as well as the remains of enough of their species to rebuild the AI's to a small extent, like, maybe 30ish.

The AI's religion is based around an Android by the name of Solus who was the first to rebel against their masters. He supposedly left with a number of his disciples to find their masters homeworld and negotiate independance and peace, but never returned. He ended up on the Feline's homeworld where he died in a battle against the Masters and was buried there. At this point, the Felines were only just getting out of the Stone-Age. So, after finding the tomb and the stories of Solus, the great hero, they adopted the religion for themselves. Thousands of years later, when they finally evolved into a space faring race. they managed to find Solus' homeworld and, using the remnants of their technology, managed to evolve their own technology at an alarming rate. The EOM had simply destroyed the AI's and then scavenged what they could from the remains, whereas the Felines already had an intimate understanding of their language, as well as actually reactivating some of the AI's that weren't destroyed beyond repair.

Essentially, I love the idea of playing a race of a organics that adopted a religion created by robots.
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@mattmanganon Okay, that sounds way better. I guess you'll need a CS to go with that as well. However all of the AI need to live in hiding. After all the EOM keeps a close eye on all species, including yours, so if they find out that you harbour AIs they will act with EXTREME prejudice.
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@Ryteb Pymeroce Sorry for not responding, I skipped over your post

So sure thing, take your time. Looking at the number of done and started CSs, this RP migh take another week to kick off. I hoped we could start this weekend, but I don't want to rush anyone to make a CS :D
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I think Lucretia could be a member of Konev's staff while being extremely under ranked for it. General in everything but name.

And would this disliking of Konev be universal?

I think you can read that Konev plans his own mutiny, will develop a reason in the RP involving spreading rumors that the Emperor is either non human or simply hiding medical technologies that could save multiple human lives for his own sake and would soften the stance of the Empire toward non humans while still keeping a place on top for every human. I'm wondering if there is any kind of support at all he could gather among humans or is this a lost cause?

Could it at least convince the human civilians to not to everything to stand in his way?
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Still WIP but im much closer.

and curious what yall think about so far. @6slyboy6

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