Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

[Penny]

Fake News! Post Modernism is back baby!

[POOHEAD189]

My kinda news article.

[Penny]

Look we all know that the Sisters are just pushing an ultra radical feminist agenda. Women in combat? I mean come on.

[POOHEAD189]

They can't even wear the Mark VII Power Armour. They have NO business in warfare! Those boots with that helmet? Tacky af

[Penny]

At least they are in separate units so all the men don't magically lose their fighting abilities due to the proximity of breasts.

[POOHEAD189]

The average imperial guard does think the Sisters of Battle are cute until the women rear their head back all dainty like to scream and rush headlong into combat. Idk what the guard's problem is, though.
#relationship goals

[Andreyich]

"Charles Barkley is a great example of a black white supremacist"

We have reached peak retardation, Ace of Hearts would be proud

[Andreyich]

Barkley is an outspoken supporter of gay rights. In 2006, he told Fox Sports: "I'm a big advocate of gay marriage. If they want to get married, God bless them."

Commenting on the Ferguson unrest, Barkley called the Ferguson looters "scumbags"

Unfortunately, as I tell my white friends, we as black people, we're never going to be successful, not because of you white people, but because of other black people. When you're black, you have to deal with so much crap in your life from other black people. It's a dirty, dark secret; I'm glad it's coming out. One of the reasons we're never going to be successful as a whole, because of other black people. And for some reason we are brainwashed to think, if you're not a thug or an idiot, you're not black enough. If you go to school, make good grades, speak intelligent, and don't break the law, you're not a good black person. And it's a dirty, dark secret. There are a lot of black people who are unintelligent, who don't have success. It's best to knock a successful black person down because they're intelligent, they speak well, they do well in school, and they're successful... We're the only ethnic group who say, 'Hey, if you go to jail, it gives you street cred.' It's just typical BS that goes on when you're black, man.

In his response to the controversy generated by the removal of Confederate monuments as highlighted by the August, 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, Barkley stated, "I’ve never thought about those statues a day in my life. I think if you asked most black people to be honest, they ain’t thought a day in their life about those stupid statues. What we as black people need to do: We need to worry about getting our education, we need to stop killing each other, we need to try to find a way to have more economic opportunity and things like that. Those things are important and significant. You know, I’m wasting time and energy [if I’m] screaming at a neo-Nazi, or [saying] ‘Man, you’ve got to take this statue down.'”

If people take that as a white supremacist stance they should kill themselves, that journal is forever fake news and shouldn't be considered valid for like, anything.

[Penny]

Speaking of white supremacists and idiots. Can't believe all these confederate statues coming down. Town councilors must be way more hard core than I give them credit for!

[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

If by "hardcore" we are talking about them pandering to a minority of Americans, then yes, yes they are dedicate to those ends. Sixty-two percent, a majority by a large margin when the factor of error is three percent, believe the historical significance outweighs the "offensiveness" of the statues, according to the Democrat leaning Marist Polls. Granted it is not a significantly large poll and has a heavy bias toward political Left, it still displays that most do not agree about the events unfolding with them.

Destroying your own history in an attempt to make people feel better is not going to succeed at anything but destroying your own history, or at best, shoving it into a box somewhere that few people will ever notice or know. Historical statues and relics do not oppress anyone, ever, and any offense associated with them is artificial; they have been there for many, many years and just now are a problem? That is awfully convenient for a political and social movement. This is also ignoring the obvious Islamic State or Soviet Union parallels of destroying historically offensive monuments that go against the ideology, but those cases make themselves.

[Andreyich]

Mayne them statues is raycis is about all the justification they need/want to bring them down.

[Smash]

Man how do American's learn about Hitler, without all of the monuments of him riding a horse around?

I mean these statues have been around since the Civil War!



Wait... They haven't? But what alternative reason could people have for wanting to Honor Terrorists who tried to split the country in half???

[mdk]

If people take that [Charles Barkley] as a white supremacist stance they should kill themselves, that journal is forever fake news and shouldn't be considered valid for like, anything.

@Andreyich

If people think that's white supremacist talk, I'd love to troll them with some Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. quotes.

also

[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

George Santayana

Just because it is an unpleasant part of history does not mean it should neglected in memory or honored, no less the fact that it might well be "more recent" than the past it is attributed to does not mean it should be discredited. If we were to act by those standards, many other monuments and sites we consider historical now would be equally "meaningless". You do not erect a statue to educate as you would a formal class, which is amusing enough because the education system in the United States from childhood format up to college education is laughable, but because it is a symbol of that history.

Should we destroy the Balto statue because the dog in question wasn't actually the hero of Nome? Should the Lenin statue of Seattle be toppled because the man and his ideology has killed millions of people and are a reminder of that? Most any excuse can be invented if one tries hard enough; some have better logic and rationale than others. The Confederate monuments' destruction or removal? Not so much. People would be better off going about with their lives as they have been for many, many years until now.

One can cry "Racism!" until they are blue in the face, but the Civil War had less to do with race or slavery and significantly more with political differences, the economy and American expansion, states rights and federal rights, and ultimately the perceived fear following the election of a President.

[Andreyich]

>implying the date of the creation of the monument is important

Golly what's the world come to

[Smash]

We don't generally hand out 2nd place trophies for wars friend. It's best we just tear'em all down now.

[Andreyich]

We don't generally hand out 2nd place trophies for wars friend.

@Smash

Well, bud, then we ought to tear down statues for Louis Riel and a bunch of other native americans. After all they never beat the European/American powers lol

[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

I suppose then that we might as well throw out the entirety of the Reconstruction Era as well, because to hell with reconciling the nation's wounds of war, the terrible losses of life, the reunion of North and South, and that the Confederates were not all diabolical, racist monsters whose only objective was to "Protect their property." from the Northerners. It is not as though we did this again later with others who fought the United States in much larger, more violent, horrific wars and had far more evil principalities that people to this very day harp on.

Let us just bury it all to maybe make a few people feel better about themselves.

[Dolerman]

"Charles Barkley is a great example of a black white supremacist"

We have reached peak retardation, Ace of Hearts would be proud

@Andreyich

Wew Lad...



The Alt-Right like Barkley until he dare question their stepfather.

[Andreyich]

<Snipped quote by Andreyich>

Wew Lad...



The Alt-Right like Barkley until he dare question their stepfather.

@Dynamo Frokane

>implying I'm altright beyond the vague term of alternative right wing to the neocon libertarian crowd

>implying

>imblyign

And even if I was I'd still like him, he hits the nail right on the head with issues of black social self-destruction with making fun of the educated as "white"