Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

[Fabricant451]

If anything we should be outraged that it's such plain-ass porn. Ted Cruz looks like a kinky fuck.

[POOHEAD189]

I wish I could tag Ted Cruz

[Penny]

If anything we should be outraged that it's such plain-ass porn. Ted Cruz looks like a kinky fuck.

@Fabricant451

Yeah Ted! Live a little in between trying to restrict women's reproductive rights and gutting the healthcare system!

[Fabricant451]

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Yeah Ted! Live a little in between trying to restrict women's reproductive rights and gutting the healthcare system!

@Penny

Nothing soothes the soul after restricting women's rights like a little trip to the world of femdom! They have rights in porn, just look at the way they act.

[POOHEAD189]

Look ladies, Ted Cruz knows more about women than anyone. I mean, he studies their anatomy so thoroughly.

[mdk]

in unrelated news...

low-key burn

[mdk]

Sorry, two in a row. But this one's, like, special kinds of special. What do you, fair guildees, think -- is it racist to stop looting after a hurricane?

[POOHEAD189]

[Dion]

Sorry, two in a row. But this one's, like, special kinds of special. What do you, fair guildees, think -- is it racist to stop looting after a hurricane?

@mdk

I think the author would have a point if they didn't write it in such a massively retarded way.

It's true that blacks or minorities in general fall into a socio-economic branch of society that, frankly put, has less money, chances and.. well less anything else. As a result, they're going to be the ones doing the looting, not the white suburban family up the street who has money for days and, while the hurricane hit them too, they probably have a backup plan and some arrangements for food and such now.

Arguing against this is just stupid as these are the facts - statistically, minorities are more likely to have to loot, therefore they are statistically more likely to get caught. That's not white supremacy but simple logic. Skin color has very little to do with it other than being a factor that seems correlated to the socio economic status of people for historical reasons. It isn't and shouldn't be a get-out-of-jailcard for looting.

The problem also is that emergency breaks law and therefore, people looting for food or drink probably shouldn't be taken to jail.

I mean, it's a little concerning that your first thought is `let's loot` instead of `let's ask police for help` but I suppose if there's no other option, you're gonna loot. I expect everyone to loot if they need food and drink and there's no other way to obtain it.

But from what I've seen so far it's not food and drink that's being looted, lol. People who are looting anything other than essentials should be punished as burglars or as something even worse because imho it's despicable to loot someones store after they had to evacuate it for the hurricane.

[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

@mdk, I prefer my looters shot on sight unless they surrender immediately, regardless of race, age, gender, orientation and the like; I am not one to discriminate. I can understand a desire to act on opportunity where one might get something for free, especially with no real consequence or opposition, but raiding another person's place of work or home is not exactly excusable. This is compounded and made worse by the fact that it is fairly overt opportunistic behavior. They had a chance to evacuate preemptively or to seek aid from actual sources or just asking others. As expected, the majority of the looting that goes on is not even for essential items - those being food, water, and medicine - usually it is your high value electronics, clothes, jewelry, so on and so forth.

I do not enjoy making excuses for people, so I choose not to. Looters haven't many excuses to begin with and given the events of Harvey where they fired upon rescuers in some cases, no less tried to rob them as well, my limited sympathy for their "plight" is strained to the point where I do not exactly take issue with people defending their claims, or those of others, with deadly force.

[Fabricant451]

Stealing food in order to survive is something I can understand and even empathize with. Going for fresh kicks and sick plasma in the middle of a disaster zone is not a necessity and even if the items in question are insured it's not something that is essential and you're being a dick. But also don't kill them.

[Dion]

Getting shot is a risk of the trade. Don't wanna get shot - don't go looting. I mean, even in the case of looking for food in other people's houses, you're entering someone elses house, looking for items they paid for and might need. I don't see any reason to excuse them and, if you willingly enter a house in an area where people own guns, perhaps you should stop and think 'is this worth dying for' though.

And that's under the assumption they're found by the owners or some vigilante passer by.

[mdk]

Stealing food in order to survive is something I can understand and even empathize with. Going for fresh kicks and sick plasma in the middle of a disaster zone is not a necessity and even if the items in question are insured it's not something that is essential and you're being a dick. But also don't kill them.

@Fabricant451

Agreed on necessities. Me personally, you know, killing a dude over a TV is not on my to-do list. But on some level if you get shot while running up in someone's house, it's like, Idunno, my heart doesn't break for your wretched fate at that point.

But I guess that's a tangent to the writer's point, which is that law enforcement itself (during a looting spree or otherwise) is "inseparable" from white supremacy, and if you disagree you're a nazi. Which, needless to argue, is a bit much -- but maybe there's a point in there somewhere. How much do you have to appreciate law and order before you're a nazi? I assume there's a sweet-spot somewhere between libertarian shitlord and Gestapo.

[Fabricant451]

How much do you have to appreciate law and order before you're a nazi?

@mdk

Depending on who you ask it's probably somewhere along the lines of "Never up until I need them then they're acceptable."

[POOHEAD189]

How much do you have to appreciate law and order before you're a nazi?

@mdk

Well I think once 'HEIL HITLER' starts getting thrown around, you're off the deep end.

[Andreyich]

TBH the only reason I wouldn't shoot a looter is so that better yet the little fucker can be lynched

[Dolerman]

@Andreyich Oh look, a political discussion with no memes.

Guess it does happen.

[Andreyich]

Nice dude

[Penny]

Me personally, you know, killing a dude over a TV is not on my to-do list.

@mdk

I'm sorry Mr MDK but you just don't seem mentally suited to police work. We are really looking for someone who has fewer qualms about murdering unarmed civilians.

and if you disagree you're a nazi. Which, needless to argue, is a bit much -- but maybe there's a point in there somewhere. How much do you have to appreciate law and order before you're a nazi?

@mdk

It seems to me it rather depends on how it is executed. If police are cracking down on looters then fine but if they are targeting black folk because they are wandering around (or salvaging stuff) and fit the mental profile of 'looter' then it becomes more problematic.

[mdk]

I'm sorry Mr MDK but you just don't seem mentally suited to police work. We are really looking for someone who has fewer qualms about murdering unarmed civilians.

@Penny

.....did you just assume my gender?

It seems to me it rather depends on how it is executed. If police are cracking down on looters then fine but if they are targeting black folk because they are wandering around (or salvaging stuff) and fit the mental profile of 'looter' then it becomes more problematic.

Gah, I hate that word. "Problematic." But you're hitting at a real thing, which is actually bad and I wouldn't like at all. Just.... ya know. This (twitter writer's) post reminds me so much of this other masterpiece from CNN, which to me is more, uh..... problematic than anything else in the national dialogue.