Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

[Andreyich]

How racist, don't you mean simian-americans?

[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

@Andreyich, the official term is "speciesist". You best check your labeling privileges lest we rile the locals, heaven knows we cannot survive their victimhood screeching just as we couldn't a banshee's.

[Penny]

@Andreyich, the official term is "speciesist". You best check your labeling privileges lest we rile the locals, heaven knows we cannot survive their victimhood screeching just as we couldn't a banshee's.

@The Harbinger of Ferocity

Mocking the idea of privilege. How have I got this many but haven't got a bingo yet?!

[Fabricant451]

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Mocking the idea of privilege. How have I got this many but haven't got a bingo yet?!

@Penny

You gotta buy more cards.

[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

You previously knew I did not believe in the notion of "privilege" as people have constructed for themselves, @Penny; no less, I still do not and find the concept ridiculous, if not an outright amusing fantasy. Why would you only now be filling out that missing mark? Not convenient or timely enough for you then? Perhaps just off your game there for the past few days, weeks, months?

[Penny]

@The Harbinger of Ferocity I assumed you didn't because that would fit my mental picture of you but I don't think I had read it explicitly before. Its possible you said so at some point where I tuned out due to disinterest or disgust.

[Andreyich]

Privilege sure does exist. Some people are privileged enough to sit on their asses the whole day doing no work and live off of money falling metaphorically from the sky. Now that's what I call a load of lucky bastards.

[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

If your mental picture of me is anything other than "embittered, seasoned, jaded person who knows the human animal too well for their own good", you might already be further off than you initially believed. Nonetheless, yes, I do not believe in the notion of privilege and on the contrary I believe people to have the power to largely determine their own fate, disadvantaged or not. Instead of this however, I have witnessed most simply opt not to and instead point at anything but themselves for their problems, wasting away that energy rather than actually doing something about it. In short, "privilege" is an excuse, @Penny.

[Penny]

I would mark off 'mocking social programs' but I've already completely filled Andre's card.

[Andreyich]

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Last SP for a while

Also I should add that I'm going to be taking some time off from the guild due to some (ironically) race related drama with someone who I thought was a friend. Gonna go off and lick my wounds for a bit, everyone take good care of this humble non-offensive politically correct thread while I'm gone.

Ciao!

@Dynamo Frokane

I kekd pretty good. It's not like Cleopatra chances are had red hair and was a Macedonian making her Greek and/or Slavic and thus 100% white. Not only are folks denying more complex shit but simple recorded history.

[Andreyich]

I would mark off 'mocking social programs' but I've already completely Andre's card.

@Penny

Go for a bonus round I swear you'll finish it fast

[Penny]

It isn't a game if there is no challenge.

[Fabricant451]

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I kekd pretty good. It's not like Cleopatra chances are had red hair and was a Macedonian making her Greek and/or Slavic and thus 100% white. Not only are folks denying more complex shit but simple recorded history.

@Andreyich

I mean that whole 'starter pack' specifically is all over the place. Is it supposed to be things Africans have contributed to society or things that people who don't think Africans contributed to society are into because I'm not sure the Swedish developers of Crusader Kings 2 have done much in the way of societal contributions of the African person.

Also I'm about 70 percent sure that Blacked was started by Caucasians anyway. Which would of course lead me to believe the starter pack is for people that think Africans contribute nothing because history shows again and again that interracial cuckold porn is top tier shit for pasty white folks with HOT TAKES.

[Andreyich]

I mean, starter packs are supposed to be ridiculous, so I suppose it's not that bad.

[Fabricant451]

Look, I expect only the best when it comes to low tier memery.

[POOHEAD189]

You previously knew I did not believe in the notion of "privilege" as people have constructed for themselves, @Penny; no less, I still do not and find the concept ridiculous, if not an outright amusing fantasy.

@The Harbinger of Ferocity

Could you explain why, my good sir?

[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

People define themselves, @POOHEAD189. Perhaps that is the best way I can phrase my understanding in its most simple incarnation. It matters nothing if you are man or woman, white or black, disabled or able bodied, young or old, among many others. Either you decide who you are, or what you will be, and pursue that with the hand of advantages and disadvantages you were dealt or you accept defeat. You can renegotiate some, many even, qualities and factors of life, but most people choose not to because it is difficult and often quite long term.

I, for example, should not have been on this green earth from the start. Medical odds alone suggested I shouldn't have been conceived, let alone born. I myself am a testament that disability and deficiency are not all an individual is either beyond that. Additionally, I survived a family feigning normalcy with a number of terrible realities in it, all of which were disguised by illusions and I even got to experience living with plenty, the idyllic American Dream, down to outright having nothing, at best from check to check. Later on I willingly gave up years of my life to do what I was told I could never do - told I never could be - so that I could do whatever I wanted with my future no matter what.

Claiming "privilege" is an excuse to shift blame on to someone else, a factor of the victim identity that many people have enthralled themselves with. This is not to say it is less difficult for some or harder for others, but everyone has their own demons. For example, the ones I face are invisible, but if anything all of those disadvantages made me greater and at this point I no longer fear them - some I have gone so far as to embrace. Do not misunderstand me, I tried to whine and complain, especially when I was younger, but instead of getting a handout or even assistance, circumstance gave me no mercy; I had no option but to fight on.

[POOHEAD189]

@The Harbinger of FerocityI don't think you understand what they mean by 'privilege.' And granted, I don't blame you. I think 'white privilege' is a terribly inaccurate word for it. I think something like 'minority oppression' is a lot more accurate, but said minorities wanted to lash out at white people rather than the other, so that term was coined.

Privilege, when used today in such contexts, simply means that there are those among the population that racism effects, and it hinders their abilities to get opportunities. Now, you could be right and say 'work harder at it, look at me!' But that extra hurdle that immigrants, minorities, and women need to go through shouldn't be there in the first place.

[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

@POOHEAD189, I understand very well exactly what they mean, thank you, because the way people execute it and use it. "Checking your privilege." has become synonymous with saying "It's just so much easier for you so shut your mouth." It has evolved well beyond any "race" context and origin it had, which in itself I find to be a lie in this day and age, especially given just how much opportunity there is for anyone.

People invent their own hurdles or stick to those crafted for them in preconception. You are a woman? Prove that your gender doesn't determine you, your caliber of person as an individual does. An immigrant? Show that you are as American as anyone who was born here, if not more than through your hard work, dedication and loyalty. Minority? Make everyone look foolish for entertaining stereotypes by being whoever you are first and avoiding those things you do not wish to be. These could apply to anyone, really - they are not exclusive or limited to. I simply do not buy and will never buy the notion of "white privilege"; I certainly had none of it.

As a later addition to this post, I do not conscribe to the idea of "minority oppression". You have equal opportunity, act on it. Use initiative and determination.

[Penny]

You are a woman? Prove that your gender doesn't determine you, your caliber of person as an individual does. An immigrant? Show that you are as American as anyone who was born here, if not more than through your hard work, dedication and loyalty.

@The Harbinger of Ferocity

You now what is weird? White males don't have to do those things. Its almost as though they have some sort of... I dont know what the word would be. Damn if only there were a term that fit!