Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

[NuttsnBolts]

@mdk@Dynamo Frokane

I would like to ask for no more personal attacks against each other. Either move on with the topic or end it.

[mdk]

@mdk@Dynamo Frokane

I would like to ask for no more personal attacks against each other. Either move on with the topic or end it.

@NuttsnBolts

Enthusiastically done.

[POOHEAD189]

I'm fairly lucky I am white enough too to most peeps, thanks to mom's side. My brother is so pale no one ever questions it lol.

[Dolerman]

@mdk@Dynamo Frokane

I would like to ask for no more personal attacks against each other. Either move on with the topic or end it.

@NuttsnBolts

Well I got what I asked for and I know his real positions now so i'll be done with it.

[Dolerman]

I'm fairly lucky I am white enough too to most peeps, thanks to mom's side. My brother is so pale no one ever questions it lol.

@POOHEAD189

Every few months I debate whether I should apply for citizenship. I'm probably not white enough for the baby maker cover. Decisions decisions.

@Penny

I mean if he can do it, anyone can.

[Polymorpheus]

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[ReonenMiruel]

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Nowhere. Don't go any distance with that.

@Penny

I think I would, considering how it seems that it's totally acceptable for everyone else except Western nations to do it

Like seriously, anyone remember "Africa for the blacks!" ? No uproar or anything with that?

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And how would you go about achieving that demography?

@Dynamo Frokane

I wouldn't actually want to create one, I just want to instill the idea that wanting your country, the country you grew up in and knew for all your life, to remain the same without mass immigration being forced down your throat is not exactly an insane idea. I dunno mate, just me.

By God, what road shall he choose!?

Hider

Legitimately, I am wondering if you literally meant racial demography @ReonenMiruel Not that I think you meant anything else but still wanna make sure.

@POOHEAD189

Not quite, I really don't give much of a fuck if someone wants to assimilate and see themselves as being [x] without any hyphens. Seems to be working quite well here in Australia... sort of. Not really. In some places.

But that aside, the only real thrust I wanted to point out is I don't want Australia/America/wherever to turn into the third world hellhole I grew up in.

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"Them savage natives were killing each other like crazy, if we hadn't have arrived and forced them into chrstianity they would have genocided themselves!"

Ironically, he would have no problem with someone like @Xandrya who is an immigrant but 'looks white enough'.

@Dynamo Frokane

Ironic, 'cause my daughter is half white, and I'm pretty sure the white half isn't coming from me.

Uhh... sorry in advance for potential double post, but I have to skip pages here...

[ReonenMiruel]

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Can you elaborate on this, and provide an example?

@catchamber

Control immigration to a point where people who want to assimilate, can, and people who don't, won't even want to enter. At the end of the day, I reckon I phrased that badly - but see above. Reduce the incentive for people to come when they don't have much to offer, but want to take advantage of certain things, and it'll happen naturally.

[Polymorpheus]

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[Andreyich]

"I'm intellectually incapable actually giving a legitimate reason but there is one."

[Dolerman]

"I'm intellectually incapable actually giving a legitimate reason but there is one."

@Andreyich

Heres a hypothetical, as long as he was a 'loyal and assimilated' whatever he is race (clearly non european and non white) would you be cool with @ReonenMiruel race mixing and having half non white kids in your ideal ethnostate?

I mean, he seems like he would be willing to integrate, so that'd be enough, right?

[Andreyich]

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Heres a hypothetical, as long as he was a 'loyal and assimilated' whatever he is race (clearly non european and non white) would you be cool with @ReonenMiruel race mixing and having half non white kids in your ideal ethnostate?

I mean, he seems like he would be willing to integrate, so that'd be enough, right?

@Dynamo Frokane

I do not know enough about him to make the assessment.

[Dolerman]

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I do not know enough about him to make the assessment.

@Andreyich

Okay lets simplify it.

He's not belarusian and not white, would you be cool with him living in your ideal ethno-state version of belarus and having kids with a belarusian woman?

[Penny]

Allele frequency for green eyes falling...

[ReonenMiruel]

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So, immigration access would only be limited to loyal, assimilated, and useful folks? I'm a bit confused, since you mentioned ethnostates earlier.

@catchamber

I know it sounds harsh, but pretty much. I mean, you don't see people wanting to flock to places such as Switzerland or Japan even though they're technically first world countries, yeah? Must be doing something right somewhere.

Ultimately I want to get rid of the welfare state or at least cut it back down to a local version of what we have, instead of the federal monstrosity that currently exists (I'm just using AU as a model, I don't know all that much about how the USA's or the UK's, for example, work). Seems like that would go a long way towards patching up the immigration issue.

[Andreyich]

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Okay lets simplify it.

He's not belarusian and not white, would you be cool with him living in your ideal ethno-state version of belarus and having kids with a belarusian woman?

@Dynamo Frokane

I was going to make a detailed post to explain, but realized I can't be arsed to write it unless I am actually asked. So, I'll just say 'idgaf'

[Dolerman]

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I know it sounds harsh, but pretty much. I mean, you don't see people wanting to flock to places such as Switzerland or Japan even though they're technically first world countries, yeah? Must be doing something right somewhere.

Ultimately I want to get rid of the welfare state or at least cut it back down to a local version of what we have, instead of the federal monstrosity that currently exists (I'm just using AU as a model, I don't know all that much about how the USA's or the UK's, for example, work). Seems like that would go a long way towards patching up the immigration issue.

@ReonenMiruel

So you would kick yourself out of the country you are in?

Or are you getting ethno-nationalism confused with civic nationalism?

[ReonenMiruel]

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So you would kick yourself out of the country you are in?

@Dynamo Frokane

Why would I? I got here legally, not sponging off welfare, and continue to be here legally without a criminal record. Is that an issue?

Or are you getting ethno-nationalism confused with civic nationalism?

Not really - I just like to think that there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that some cultures can't assimilate into another, especially if one brings those of that culture en masse, giving them opportunities to segregate themselves from the larger population. As with anything, gradual and controlled is probably the best way forward.

[Penny]

Those clannish Irish Italians Germans Vietnamese Syrians will never assimilate.

[Polymorpheus]

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