[OOC] Yu-Gi-Oh! Guardians

[Todd Howard]

@Archmage MC

Once you enter with your deck you don't have a choice.

You'll be a douchebag boring chain burn user against everyone, even the rogues.

... Meanwhile, I'm keeping my gears. Which I'll probably try to still use in Link Format, as I think it's actually gonna manage with a few arrangements to the decklist.

[Ammokkx]

Taking it one part at a time.

@Ammokkx

The change isn't going to be as big as people first expected it to be, that's for sure. Firewall Dragon is busted as fuck, and I feel like we'll get some classic Konami dick giving to the current meta cards once Link Format actually arrives; They had no reason to hit Zoo right now,

@Raddum

Then why did the OCG pre-emptively ban freaking Gofu? It sure as heck wasn't a problem card pre-link format, so they could've just waited until after Links hit to do so. The argument for Zoo not getting hit majorly is kind of silly too: Zoos are like, 90% of the current decks and will remain 90% of the decks because the core engine is in tact. They had all the reason to hit it even before links were a thing, so this argument makes no sense to me.

Also, they're kind of releasing an entire summon mechanic deck after links hit. If that doesn't scream backwards thinking, I don't know what does.

You know what needs to actually happen? We need That Grass Looks Greener to be limited.

@Raddum

...Actually, I agree with this. card's busted af.

Yosenjus are going to be extremely popular at the start, I feel. But they'll be getting the dick too. The one thing I expect to not see get hit is Metalfoes and Lightsworns. Mer Mails will get hit, just waitin' for it.

@Raddum

Yosenju weren't meta when they were released and won't ever be meta, sorry to say. Deck's too old and outdated at this point, which says something about how fast the game advances. Their effects just aren't good enough.

Mermail had its glory, and is in the same boat now. Don't get me wrong, they're really freakin' good, but they needed the paleo engine to function in the big boy leagues nowadays. Unless some more WATER support is released that gives them some impact, I doubt we'll be seeing more of them without the paleo engine.

For the moment, Rat going to 2 is actually pretty good. I'm current;y satisfied with the banlist. Except for Imperial Order, but we're getting a Trap version of Twin Twisters so I no longer will give a single fuck.

@Raddum

Rat going to 2 only made the decks that run the zoo engine switch into the Fusion Subsitute combo, which gave them an extra +2 while slightly hampering their consistency. Not quite the desired result.

[Archmage MC]

@Raddum Yeah but you can get a feel in the tournament as to who is running rogues and who is running unfun. If its mostly rogues like at a locals, no chainburn, but if its all meta. Chainburn.

Its really unfun when you +6 off that rat bro. Or all of Paleos...

[Ammokkx]

@Raddum Yeah but you can get a feel in the tournament as to who is running rogues and who is running unfun. If its mostly rogues like at a locals, no chainburn, but if its all meta. Chainburn.

Its really unfun when you +6 off that rat bro. Or all of Paleos...

@Archmage MC

Playing tournaments is your first problem.

[Archmage MC]

@Ammokkx This is true. Very very true. xD. Its why I like locals. I can play with toons.

Got this weird kid who thinks hes literally marik ishtar, with duel disk and everything that comes in from time to time. Its freaky. But good on him for getting that little koriboh voice down pat.

[Ammokkx]

Never chainburn vs heroes though, those are fun to fight.

@Archmage MC

Oh man, how did I miss this gem?

Yes, because sitting on Dark Law all game and going into Acid when you get any number of S/T on your field, as well as dropping Honesty Neos when you try to run over by battle is fun.

[Todd Howard]

Then why did the OCG pre-emptively ban freaking Gofu? It sure as heck wasn't a problem card pre-link format, so they could've just waited until after Links hit to do so. The argument for Zoo not getting hit majorly is kind of silly too: Zoos are like, 90% of the current decks and will remain 90% of the decks because the core engine is in tact. They had all the reason to hit it even before links were a thing, so this argument makes no sense to me.

Also, they're kind of releasing an entire summon mechanic deck after links hit. If that doesn't scream backwards thinking, I don't know what does.

@Ammokkx

Because Konami is backwards as fuck. If you don't know this you've obviously not played the game long enough to realize they are pretty fucking strange.

Thing is, I don't see Zoo as terribly bad. Before the rat hit, the combos were much worse. Now it's... Alright. When I have bigger concerns, I tend to not worry about the slightly smaller ones; Zoo's to Paleo as an example. I just don't think they need to die yet; wait until after Links so they can get shot down. As for Gofu, like I said, Konami is backwards as fuck. Not the sharpest knives in the crayon box.

...Actually, I agree with this. card's busted af.

@Ammokkx

yis

Yosenju weren't meta when they were released and won't ever be meta, sorry to say. Deck's too old and outdated at this point, which says something about how fast the game advances. Their effects just aren't good enough.

Mermail had its glory, and is in the same boat now. Don't get me wrong, they're really freakin' good, but they needed the paleo engine to function in the big boy leagues nowadays. Unless some more WATER support is released that gives them some impact, I doubt we'll be seeing more of them without the paleo engine.

@Ammokkx

>their effects just aren't good enough

True, mostly. the only monsters you run are the pendulums and the brothers. Other than those, they're trash. They can still do work, though. They won't be meta, but I feel like people will turn to alternatives to Extra Deck summoning; Relying on constant special summons instead. Once everyone figures it out, it's ogre, but they'll have their moment of use.

More reason to shit on Paleo. Go, Konami, Go!

Rat going to 2 only made the decks that run the zoo engine switch into the Fusion Subsitute combo, which gave them an extra +2 while slightly hampering their consistency. Not quite the desired result.

@Ammokkx

Maybe not, but it's what we have. Live it with, mang. That's what we all have to do. That little lack of consistency can be the difference between winning and losing at times. But like most meta decks, if it's pulled off, they're gonna take a huge shit on your board.

[Todd Howard]

@Raddum Yeah but you can get a feel in the tournament as to who is running rogues and who is running unfun. If its mostly rogues like at a locals, no chainburn, but if its all meta. Chainburn.

@Archmage MC

There's gonna be both. But never are you going to see 'mostly rogues', that's fucking retarded for a tournament. Some basic locals, maybe, but in Tulsa at the start of this month it was very basic; Fluffals, Paleo, Zoo, and stuff. I'm just glad I managed a few wins somehow, lol

[Ammokkx]

Thing is, I don't see Zoo as terribly bad.

@Raddum

Agree to disagree?

Otherwise, I don't have much left to say.

[Todd Howard]

Agree to disagree?

Otherwise, I don't have much left to say.

@Ammokkx

Well, I'm not gonna bash you for your opinion, because I understand how you feel, so...

Ye.

_{YEAH BEING CIVIL FUCKING RULES}

[Archmage MC]

@Raddum What tournament is in Tulsa? guess I missed it.

[Todd Howard]

@Archmage MC

Tulsa Regionals, bruv.

[Archmage MC]

@Raddum I live close to there. Guess I should've went. lol.

[Todd Howard]

@Archmage MC

Ye. It was a good time~!

If you go to the next event in Tulsa and see a smol 5'4" girl running around with Ancient Gears, that's meeee~

[Archmage MC]

@Raddum Heck man, if we're close enough we could prob just meet up at a locals n stuff. Pegasus vs Crowly from GX match n everything! It'd be great.

If not, keep me posted on tourneys. I don't do so well at them as my luck is horrid, but I wont use chainburn if I know a friend is there xd. Friends don't play chainburn vs friends.

I'll be the guy that looks like Draco Malfoy (Or his dad, I guess) with Toons.

[Killfang96]

@GarlandDaHero
How is the IC coming along?

[Todd Howard]

@Killfang96

Considering his/her activity since last communicating with us, I'll assume he/she hasn't gotten very far on it.

If it's been started.

[GarlandChaos]

@Killfang96

@The Irish Tree is currently working on a character sheet, and I'm still waiting for @AdmrlStalfos19 and @NightmareInd to submit theirs.

If their CSes aren't up today, I'll start the IC tomorrow and they can submit theirs whenever they're ready.

(Nightmare might've submitted his finished CS already, but I likely didn't see it, unfortunately.)

[Scarifar]

(Nightmare might've submitted his finished CS already, but I likely didn't see it, unfortunately.)

@GarlandDaHero

Nah, he hasn't.

[Ammokkx]

If their CSes aren't up today, I'll start the IC tomorrow and they can submit theirs whenever they're ready.

@GarlandDaHero

Considering we have 8 finished characters, I don't quite see why we had to wait on them in the first place. The RP isn't going to advance very far in a day or three.

Not that I mind waiting, of course.