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@Alisma Somewhere in Asia~

Singapore, to be exact. Hence the reason why my life is so boring because everything is fine and dandy here - no guns, no drugs, because nobody is stupid enough to ask for a death sentence here. XD
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@tsukune Ooh I've been to Singapore before. Wonderful place ^-^

Having no crimes is a good thing, though, because you get to laugh at other countries' stupidity. And you get to wander outside in the middle of the night without worrying if you will get shot. People say Canada (where I live) is safe, too, but there's some scary stuff that happens here O.O
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@tsukune Ooh I've been to Singapore before. Wonderful place ^-^

Having no crimes is a good thing, though, because you get to laugh at other countries' stupidity. And you get to wander outside in the middle of the night without worrying if you will get shot. People say Canada (where I live) is safe, too, but there's some scary stuff that happens here O.O


Doesn't matter how much I laugh at other countries' stupidity. To them, crime is exciting and cool compared to the safe and boring life I have here... And if they get shot, they are forever stuck in that blissful nightmare and never wake up ever again. /shrugs

I won't say there's no crime here - just very low and nothing crazy as those racial shooting incidents in US recently. (There's no such thing as zero crime anywhere in the world.)

While there are some things I don't like about Singapore (da weather), to be really honest it's better off living here than other parts of Asia like Hong Kong, Taiwan, China, etc. Besides being safe, it's a small country so going to places is more accessible than big countries with convoluted transport services and spending an hour on the road just to get something... when for us everything we need is just a minute walk away. XD
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@JunkMail@tsukune I had the honor of having one of my stories looked over by an editor from marvel. There was so much red ink when he was done with it... it was a very humbling experience that I'm glad I had. I think everyone should have an experience like that in their arsenal.

But what I'm concerned about is not that people are voicing their opinion about a particular post, but that so many people are saying the same thing. I don't think that level of repetitious criticism is warranted on the first post in an RP, certainly not before the "offender" has had a chance to confirm if they are going to take the criticism to heart or not.
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The notion of danger within the United States is vastly overblown by unreliable media and its agendas. Much of what you are seeing is not a reflection of the events that are actually taking place. You are much better off ignoring any news agency and pursuing topics under your own accord. Not claiming I am an expert on those matters, but from a fair breadth of experience I can tell you it is the typical fear mongering and willful exploitation of culture and identity issues.
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@BrokenPromise You do have a point, that one person and/or the GM to point that out was enough, and they should give the player in question a chance to respond (whether to take the criticism to heart or to defend themselves) before going further. Otherwise it does give off the impression that the other players were "ganging up" on that person...

Well, I'm not in that RP, and personally I'm used to getting harsh criticisms (I got loads of it in the past that had greatly helped me to improve my writing), so I can't really say much for the targeted player in that RP. It's up to them to sort that out among themselves, not for us outsiders to butt in.

@The Harbinger of Ferocity A lot of media agencies out there have never been reliable or that truthful, merely as a tool for propaganda or as pure entertainment rather than being actually informative. Regarding the safety issues and such in US, I have never been there and all that I know about US are from the media or third party sources, so it is difficult for me to really pursue this topic on my own accord. However, I am open to hear about personal experiences the people who are living there are going through - also, US is a big country with 50 states and many cities and whatnot, which probably contribute to a more diversified picture of gun, racial, and other social issues in US.
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If you are curious, the largest reason you are seeing so much "violent crime" propagated among the media is because that an officer only needs to meet three conditions to use deadly force making it a more common occurrence in the United States. They, as well as much of the uninitiated public and the greater nations outside the country itself, are fond of viewing these situations with hindsight that those involved do not have, entirely different laws and customs, and with the luxury of not being in life and death circumstances. Many claims of racial bias are focusing upon specific incidents instead of broad net categorization and recording as done by many agencies, but even countless of those potentially suspicious incidents fall back upon the officer's perception.

For reference, the increased amount of firearms in the United States does not directly correlate with increased violent crime; see Palestine and or China knifing sprees for examples of how mass attacks (other than explicit terrorism) are carried out without firearms. There's other factors for crime that are often ignored.

In the United States it is perfectly justified and legal for an officer who believes the perpetrator has the opportunity, capability and intent to injure or kill them (or others) to shoot. It does not matter why or how beyond that, even if it was a situation that ultimately, in hindsight, did not require shooting.

By standards, opportunity means the chance the attacker would have to utilize a weapon of any form - it need not explicitly even be a firearm, it can even be their person. Capability refers to that they have the means to employ that weapon. Lastly, intent is the apparent interest in doing harm. These might seem complicated but they are not. My best example is this hypothetical story below.

A man is stopped by a patrol officer for having a tail light out on his truck. The officer checks the vehicle's information and is informed the individual has a previous criminal record. When contacting the individual, the officer notices the man is wearing a large overcoat. While talking, the man becomes increasingly disruptive and verbally non-compliant to the police officer. When directed out of his vehicle, the man instead puts his hands inside the coat rapidly and fumbles with something in it.

In this situation the officer actually has all the criteria to shoot, but most will hesitate because they want to confirm there is danger rather than assume. They meet the standard of reasonable objectiveness because A): The individual has the opportunity to cause injury or mortal harm by potentially using a weapon in their coat. B): The individual is physically capable of utilizing that weapon (be it a knife, a gun, their fist, etc) in that close of quarters. C): The individual has the intent because they are again defying an order as their previous arrest record mentioned confirms. Furthermore, the action they are undertaking is explicitly hostile. They only need appear to be armed or attempting to be.

The worst part about this example used is, is that it was a real scenario. You can see a fair number of these shootings on full, unedited cuts on various social media websites. Do not watch the pared down thing - watch these entire situations in their entirety. In nearly all of them you will see just how much the police will delay shooting unless there's a distinct threat, sometimes so much they themselves (or others) wind up injured or dead.

You might ask why the police might shoot as much as they do, why you see in some of them they fire upwards of five or more times or why multiple police officers might shoot. Unlike movies, to which I can confirm, when people are shot they usually do not go down in a single hit; even direct hits to the head can sometimes give a brief reaction before the hostile individual is eliminated. The other issue stems from the fact that while the United States' police are trained far more intensively than they have been prior, unless they're used to being shot at or threatened with a real weapon, adrenaline has the tendency to whiteout any thorough thought process. There's no time to think, just react, so all you have is training and instinct to fall back on.

This is a long response, but I hope it clarifies things a bit in the simplest of terms one can put them in from someone who has a few stakes in the matter and is from there.
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@tsukune I was thinking about joining, which is the only reason why I was following the OOC. I just wanted everyone's input to get an understanding of this forum community's views. Thanks for sharing yours.

@The Harbinger of Ferocity Is correct, news media in the US is quite unreliable. I actually don't follow it because it is all fear mongering or attempts at gaining favor with a particular race/sexuality by reporting "social injustice." They are also correct in that people can often continue to function even when they should be dead. Adrenaline is a powerful drug, and there are accounts of people being shot center mass as much as fifteen times and still being able to function. They never survive of course, but still, sometimes you gotta empty the clip into them to be sure.
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@BrokenPromise Well, all I can say is: in any place we go, we will definitely meet different people with a multitude of personality types - some pleasant and helpful, some straightforward and blunt, some just plain rude. We just have to take those hostile ones with a pinch of salt, and try not to go head on with them to avoid making the situation even worse. For me, unless my patience is running dangerously low, I just ignore those trying to rile me and focus on the more constructive things, rather than wasting my time to stoke their horrible ego.

In a way, this forum has thickened my skin so much that lately I need to file down that thickness before I go back to school. XD I don't want to get into some dumb trouble for accidentally swearing excessively in class.

@The Harbinger of Ferocity Thank you for sharing your insight on how the US media portrays shootouts between the law enforcers and the civilians, which is very helpful to help me better understand the topic, especially from the perspective of the people who are living there. I am now certain that my local media reports on the shooting incidents are mostly copying-and-pasting from the US media rather than actually reporting from an objective viewpoint. Which is ironic, since Singapore often prides itself in many things including the media striving to be the best informative source for us, but it's no different from the US media where it's used as a tool to show things that would benefit the media rather than the people.
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i always get worried when I wake up to a wall of text in my chat, fearing some fight or something.
I am so relieves you all are mature and just talking like adults.
Candy for all of you
-makes it rain M&Ms-
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M&Ms! I love it!
*tries to catch 'em all with the largest basket I can find at home*

Of course we're all mature people here having a civil talk about how US isn't as horrible as the media has been showing to the public. ;)
And oops sorry to scare you on your morning with walls of text. *gives Cara some chocolates*
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But what I'm concerned about is not that people are voicing their opinion about a particular post, but that so many people are saying the same thing. I don't think that level of repetitious criticism is warranted on the first post in an RP, certainly not before the "offender" has had a chance to confirm if they are going to take the criticism to heart or not.


Oh, I totally understand your qualm with the repetition. I was attacking the notion of the criticism itself being too aggressive. I can state that I have only seen that once or twice on the Guild thus far, so if my experience is anything to go by then it is not normal behavior.

Am jealous of your experience with Marvel. I've worked a few times with the editors of a few small authors, but nothing of that level. What an opportunity.
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i always get worried when I wake up to a wall of text in my chat, fearing some fight or something.
I am so relieves you all are mature and just talking like adults.
Candy for all of you
-makes it rain M&Ms-


I'm a big kid now~

But not when it comes to M&Ms :D
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As if I am anything but civil and mature, @Carantathraiel. I do admit the usual fare here tends to monitor itself by and large.
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I'm proud of you all regardless.
*showers with more chocolates*
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And here is the finished, stylized product, @Carantathraiel.



... a member of Smilodon populator specifically, but I am certain you get the idea. It's a big cat with big teeth.
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*showers with more chocolates*

"Scat joke."
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I'm proud of you all regardless.
*showers with more chocolates*


Chocolate rain?

youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA
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And here is the finished, stylized product, @Carantathraiel.



... a member of Smilodon populator specifically, but I am certain you get the idea. It's a big cat with big teeth.


Who is the artist?

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Chocolate rain?

youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA


I knew a girl in Japan who was obsessed with that song XD
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*Pops in with My Demons playing.*
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