[OOC] Guild of Dishonor

[KatherinWinter]

@RaptraThat helps.

He squeezed by two men standing in the doorway. Cool. I am sure the two in the basement will love that. He won't attract the captain's attention at all.

[CustardSlice]

@KatherinWinter Lol whoops I completely forgot about the Captain 😂

He’s pretty much a red shirt, he’s not the smartest and he’s not going to get a pay rise any time soon. Feel free to treat him as useless, he’s a bit of a filler character really. Use him to your own advantages :D

[King Tai]

I'll post something soon.

[KatherinWinter]

Well I guess I need to do something. Griffin hasn't helped. SO I guess I will bring Roxy back and figure out an explanation later. Also need a reason for the group to stay together. Right now there isn't one. My only idea is arresting them all. Then they work together to escape but once their free we're back to why do they stay together. None of these people are the trusting type.

[Raptra]

Was that the one who had ran out or another? It was too dark to tell but he had a feeling that it was the teen from the group. Maybe he could use the kid to get close to the group. "Two against one seems like unfair odds. Why don't we move this outside and even up the odds abit."

@KatherinWinter

If Griffin is still aiming to get in contact with the rest of the PCs, he'll help the kid and not the Captain ;)

The group will stay together because it has already been revealed that there are a whole bunch of people after the gang that pulled off the heist, and they know that they are all in danger and that sticking together will increase their chances of survival. Anyway yeah it's time Roxy returned too :)

[King Tai]

I'll have a post up today

[King Tai]

@FalkiThomas@Raptra@KatherinWinter

Forgot to tag

[CustardSlice]

@Raptra@KatherinWinter Yeah.. I think that this current attack will help them form a closer bond and they're planning on sticking together to go to this brothel that Isago knows of, so they'll bond there and start trying to trust one and other etc.

I think Griffin still has lots of potential to help out - nobody has defeated any of the bad guys yet, so if he can bump one off, then that'd be a great help ;D But if you're not feeling it, then Roxy will be welcomed back - Ratte will enjoy the eye candy once again if she doesn't end up with arrows in her eyes after this encounter lol!

[KatherinWinter]

@FalkiThomas@Raptra I don't see that. Maybe I'm applying to much logic. I think it would be easier to hide separate then together. Especially since they know nothing but each other's names. Griffin isnt going to attack. Kai has escaped. Rate is more than capable of doing so. I was hoping Griffin would get people interacting but it didn't really work. So we need something that gets the group together rather than scattered the way they are.

[Raptra]

@KatherinWinter @FalkiThomas Looking at the original post, the concept of this story was a group of thieves working together in general so that they could make more profit. The RP happened to start off with a big heist, but that could possibly be the first of many, with each one leading up to some big discovery. I'm actually liking this element of a rival group that's after the PCs, and I'm guessing the current characters have the idea that they'll be easier to take down (one at a time) if they split up, as opposed to sticking together where they can have one another's backs.

Things are gonna be pretty crazy for me IRL until Thursday, but I'll just have a short post up at the nearest possible time so that you peeps can move on before then. If Griffin isn't gonna react I'll just have Kai stab the Captain and bolt out of there XD

[CustardSlice]

@Raptra That’s fine, stab away :D

@KatherinWinter Don’t worry about the logic too much - there are only 3 of the original group now and Kai already has a good relationship with Isago so there’s a lot of sense in them staying friendly. Ratte’s cowardly, she spent the last heist running around in the shadows so a big tough guy like Isago around won’t be a turn off for her. And if all else fails, they will stick together because we want them to :)

If Griffin’s purpose is to make them interact with one and other, have him stick around and fight with them then talk to them directly. I think the problem was that there’s such a gap between our posts that it feels like it’s been hours since they got to the tavern when really it’s only been about half an hour and Griffin hadn’t talked to anyone in the group or even gone into the same room as them before someone started attacking them. After this fight we can give them a reason to stick together- we could even have Griffin convincing them to do so if you’re worried about it - but for now they’re just trying not to get stabbed :)

[KatherinWinter]

@Raptra@FalkiThomas I thought Kai was out. He slipped past the captain already. I thought he was outside in the clear. I thought having a more immediate threat, someone watching them in the tavern would get everyone interacting and planning. Thats the same reason I had Roxy disappear. After the heist everyone was doing their own thing and we needed a reason for them together. No one knows each other, plus the dann timeline, so they can easily contact each other and I didn't want to do another big heist so soon. You're right the long period between posts arent helping. I have mostly lost interest because the story isng going anywhere. While heist are fun I prefer stories that help the characters grow. Ive been trying to do that but I feel like ive failed.

[CustardSlice]

@KatherinWinter He is out but the captain has currently got hold of him.

Don’t worry about the heist then, they were all going to go and settle in the brothel to talk about tactics and catch up, but these bad guys turned up before they got the chance. As far as I’m aware they’re still going to go ahead and do that.. so we’ll have time for plotting etc.

Also doesn’t help that we have had a lot of people dip in and out and change the storyline around orz. Things will tick over and get there, characters will come out, it’s just moving slowly that’s all. I think that just happens in RPs.. I mean if you look at our PM RP it’s been going for a good several months now and a week hasn’t passed in RP time yet :’)

[Raptra]

He is out but the captain has currently got hold of him.

@FalkiThomas

Not anymore ;)

After the heist everyone was doing their own thing and we needed a reason for them together. No one knows each other, plus the dann timeline, so they can easily contact each other and I didn't want to do another big heist so soon.

@KatherinWinter

As mentioned before, there are two reasons for the group to stay together. Firstly, they'll make more profit helping one another out, and secondly, they'll need to watch one another's backs because of the rival group that has just been introduced. That's settled unless you don't think those are solid enough reasons. The next concern, I believe, is that you would like to have some slice-of-life elements between all the action of heists and attacks. I agree there's been quite a lot of action, but once the PCs get out of this and regroup, there'll be time for more character development and interaction. I guess introducing all these NPCs and action was our way of keeping the story interesting, but if your idea of 'keeping it interesting' means some break from all the action, which I agree would work really well too, then we can tone down on what we've been doing so far.

[CustardSlice]

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I agree there's been quite a lot of action, but once the PCs get out of this and regroup, there'll be time for more character development and interaction. I guess introducing all these NPCs and action was our way of keeping the story interesting, but if your idea of 'keeping it interesting' means some break from all the action, which I agree would work really well too, then we can tone down on what we've been doing so far.

@Raptra

Yeah, I'm happy to tone things down and just get to know the characters for a while :) We've had a lot of people dipping in and out, so it'll be good now that we have a solid little group to just work with them casually for a bit, whilst also trying to find Roxy :)

[KatherinWinter]

The biggest problem I have right now is that I suck at fight scenes. I have no idea who is where. I thought Kai and Isago were no longer in the tavern. I thought it was just Ratte were in the tavern. I'll reread everything and see if I can get Griffin involved at least until everyone gets to the brothel.

[CustardSlice]

@KatherinWinter Can always help you form something in PMs if you like :)

Kai was in the tavern basement and has since stabbed the Captain and come out of the tavern.
Isago and Ratte were outside the tavern in an alleyway and are still there.
There is Flying edge, who is Shooting at Ratte outside and Jobba Is fighting Isago outside.
There are still 2 attackers in the basement. They saw the Captain and froze. The Captain and Griffin are by the tavern’s basement which is still inside. I hope this helps :)

[KatherinWinter]

@FalkiThomas Wait that can't be right. Because Kai ran past Griffin and the captain. Which would put him upstairs not in the basement.

[CustardSlice]

@KatherinWinter The Captain was never in the basement...
He looked in through the door.. and Kai ‘hoped’ to run past them. He didn’t make it at first..

[KatherinWinter]

@FalkiThomasI know Griffin and the captain are at the top of the stairs. But this indicates he atleast made it into the tavern area:

The teen did not wait to confirm this, however, and took the opportunity given to him by the unexpected interruption to dash up the stairs. He ducked between the men, hoping to exit the establishment through the front doors.

This would put Isago and Ratte outside. Maybe on their way into a side or second entrance but they shouldn't be able to see the two in the basement. I think.