[OOC] Absolute Comics - Season Two: The Monster Within

[Roman]

Actually v.interested to see which characters Stein would go for. Never took him for a comics RP guy.

[mickilennial]

Actually v.interested to see which characters Stein would go for. Never took him for a comics RP guy.

@Roman

Didn't they GM a Justice League RP once upon a time?

[Roman]

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Didn't they GM a Justice League RP once upon a time?

@Inkarnate

God, not that I can remember? But I do take long spells of inactivity sometimes.

[Lord Wraith]

God, not that I can remember? But I do take long spells of inactivity sometimes.

@Roman

Stein's run a Justice League RP several times. Old Guild, New Guild, Iwaku.

I was Alfred Pennyworth who fell into a Lazarus Pit and then joined Bruce as Owlman.

Good times.

[Roman]

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Stein's run a Justice League RP several times. Old Guild, New Guild, Iwaku.

I was Alfred Pennyworth who fell into a Lazarus Pit and then joined Bruce as Owlman.

Good times.

@Lord Wraith

Now that sounds like a party.

[Retired]

I was Alfred Pennyworth who fell into a Lazarus Pit and then joined Bruce as Owlman.

@Lord Wraith

Tell me why you're in charge again?

[Dblade26]

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Tell me why you're in charge again?

@Retired

Because half of us have no sense of whimsy or flexibility and consider this 'art' instead of a game, including sometimes me =P

[Lord Wraith]

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Tell me why you're in charge again?

@Retired

In all honesty, I'm only in charge because there was a demand for the game and no one else wanted to run it.

Which explains the lack of consistent GMing in the early months

[mickilennial]

In all honesty, I'm only in charge because there was a demand for the game and no one else wanted to run it.

Which explains the lack of consistent GMing in the early months

@Lord Wraith

He also has a better reputation than I do. And more friends. And a better track record of GMing. So he was the best fit for game sustainability.

[Hillan]

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He also has a better reputation than I do. And more friends. And a better track record of GMing. So he was the best fit for game sustainability.

@Inkarnate

He's also a better person.

And has a cute dog.

[Lord Wraith]

A little worried about that last post, did i go a little too far with the "LOL all of that casual racism in 50's tv!"?

@mattmanganon

This may be a little delayed but the post in question was recently brought to my attention and the short answer is yes.

If you could edit the aforementioned post that would be greatly appreciated. I'm really not comfortable with the post as it is currently written as there's no reason for 'casual racism' to be in the RP.

If you want to discuss this further, I'd be happy to take it to PMs but as it currently stands the post is offensive and I'd like to have it altered before it causes anymore of an incident.

[mattmanganon]

@Lord Wraith I'm happy to alter it, that's why I asked.

It's not meant to offend, more to fool the reader into a false sense of security:

Comic: "Hey guys, remember '50s TV? Everything that was so good about America before all of the drugs? The Honeymooers, The 3 Stooges..."
Audience: "Yeah, that was nice."
Comic: "Remember all of the wholesomeness? Just nice people doing nice things and thwarting the plans of evil people? Good always wins, Bad always loses."
Audience: "Yeah, that was such a magical time, they really didnt appreciate what they had."
Comic: And who could forget all of the Racism? Every black man was a stereotype, every Indian was a villain, every Native addicted to gambling. Such a golden time in American history."
Audience: *shuffles feet nervously* "Oh yeah..."

[Lord Wraith]

@Stein much like Roman, I'm quite keen to see who you're going to play as if you're still interested that is.

[Stein]

@Stein much like Roman, I'm quite keen to see who you're going to play as if you're still interested that is.

@Lord Wraith

Yes ma'am, I am still interested. But tbh, I'm glad @mattmanganon mentioned that post of his because I was just getting ready to chew your ass out over it, Wraith.

Well really, all the GM's. Because I don't see how that flew in the first place.

Let me be clear: I'm not just "Omg black stereotype?!? RACIST!!!" and trying to nail Matt's ass to the wall. BUT, I am gonna clock a few things:

1.) That portrayal of John Stewart is just wrong. And I don't mean morally wrong, but I mean even in terms of his "characterization" for the time period. If you're going to try and make a commentary on the racism in America, do research on it. That Uncle Tom caricature the post is trying to present wouldn't have been in the "Leave it to Beaver" era of television. That Uncle Tom shit was mainly done in the late 1800's/early 1900's. Take a look at those old shows and even take a look at earlier American theatre/cinema. There's a world of difference in how black people are portrayed.

2.) I hate putting a subjective overtone on written work, but to put simply: it just wasn't done well. Like bruh, you really made John Stewart a "mamie ass nigger" to the highest degree. This whole "bless my cotton socks" bullshit reads more of a racist white guy doing blackface than anything. It read as on the nose to the extent where, to me, it went past parody for the point of comedy, and ended up being kinda tasteless parody.

3.) What was the point? If it was for commentary, then how does the benefit the piece, the character, the story, the RP, anything? It just came from completely out of left field. Now granted, in my browsing, I did see @Byrd Man's post, and maybe that inspired the idea of doing some type of commentary on blackness. I have my own issues with that post (not the use of nigga, but how its use is serving as a crutch to characterize "Oh hey look, these characters are black and urban." Me and my niggas mix nigga with bitch, bruh, fool, man, boy, etc) but I digress because with that post, I didn't sense any malicious intent and it wasn't looking make a commentary.

That said--4.) Matt, I think I can have respect for what you were trying to do, but none of that translated in the post. I don't believe, as a whole, it makes a reader feel uncomfortable in the way you're intending. At least for me, it makes me uncomfortable because I'm just looking at this post like "Did he really just do that to John Stewart? Did he really think this was a good choice?" It's like when Derrick Berry made it to the top 5 runway walk in S8 of RuPaul's Drag Race: You got love for the girl for having some tenacity, but JESUS, you feel bad for the final product. And you kinda feel bad for the Judges because they let her walk on the runway looking a mess.

I want to end this all with: I have no bad blood with you, Matt. I just think if you're going to shoot that high, you gotta be ready for someone to tell you why you missed the mark. And in that, I'm looking at @Inkarnate, @Saint Maxx and @Lord Wraith for why they didn't clock that shit earlier.

I'd love to join this RP, and have love for each and every one of you. But, I had to at least address that before I tried to hop up in this gig.

Do with it what you may.

XoXo Gossip Girl



EDIT: I guess I can't take too many shots at, Wraith. You tried to come through at the end. You get a C.

[Lord Wraith]

I will admit, I was about a week too late on this issue and on top of that it was brought to my attention by another player.

For that, I have to apologize not only to you, @Stein but also to the game's entire cast as there were likely others who were upset by the post.

I realize the damage is already done, but I've asked for edits to be made to the post to remove the caricature of John Stewart from the post.

Going forward I'm hoping we can avoid a repeat of this incident to keep our RP from making anyone feel ostracized or marginalized.

[Retired]

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@Stein

This looked like fun.
Now do me, do me!

[Lord Wraith]

This looked like fun.
Now do me, do me!

@Retired

[Hound55]

Well there's a post up for anyone with a spare weekend with no obligations whatsoever to devote to reading something ridiculously overlength...

[Hillan]

Well there's a post up for anyone with a spare weekend with no obligations whatsoever to devote to reading something ridiculously overlength...

@Hound55

Did Wraith post again?

:^^^^)

[Stein]

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This looked like fun.
Now do me, do me!

@Retired

Awww!

I will when you're worth it.

Mwah