[OOC] Nexus Of Worlds Multiverse

[ASTA]

This can only end well.

[Salroka]

yoshua171 said
Yes. I remember the old tier system, but that did help, thank you.

So according to that... you're going to be on par with Superman, Hulk, Galactus, etc.

yoshua171 said Regardless he is most likely, if not surely, at, or near, the top of the high tier.

I repeat... Gods are not allowed.

ASTA said
This can only end well.

I may be a rabble-rouser at times. But seriously, Yoshua... you're tooting your own horn and saying one thing, then saying the opposite when confronted.

ASTA is right... this can only end well. Sarcasm noted.

[yoshua171]

I never said that. You're drawing your own conclusions out of data you do not have. You're also giving me information, and then changing the way you present it, and using prior statements before the NEW presentation to alter the meaning of your statements.

Please stahp ;_;

[Salroka]

yoshua171 said
I never said that. You're drawing your own conclusions out of data you do not have.

No? You're proving it for me. EXAMPLE TIME!!!

yoshua171 said Regardless he is most likely, if not surely, at, or near, the top of the high tier.

yoshua171 said
*nods* By "top" I did not mean "power above all other high tier individuals," I meant that if you separated the high tier into "low, mid, and top" he'd likely be at the top alongside any others who might fit into that paradigm. Excuse the unclearness of the statement I made. I should've been more specific.

... to which I said

---

So basically...

Low Tier

Tier 1/Low-Low Tier: Basic Humans. Minimally trained. Think a bar fight or back-alley brawl.
Tier 2/Mid-Low Tier: Trained Warriors. Skilled and equipped with weapons. Think Samurai or Grunt Soldiers
Tier 3/High-Low Tier: Elite Fighters. Powerful Characters that have access to high-tech attacks or simple magic.

Middle Tier

Tier 4/Low-Mid Tier: This is where basic humans rarely tread. At this level, rather potent magic and technology is common
Tier 5/Mid-Mid Tier: Characters at this level are capable of causing high damage to their surroundings.
Tier 6/High-Mid Tier: Fights between players of this level may damage or destroy most unfortified buildings

High Tier

Tier 7/Low-High Tier: Battles between characters may result in a destroyed city or two.
Tier 8/Mid-High Tier: Long-term damage to the planet that is fought upon is not beyond possibility.
Tier 9/High-High Tier: Goku, Superman, Galactus, Doomsday, Hulk, Etc.

Yes?

---

You replied with

yoshua171 said
Yes. I remember the old tier system, but that did help, thank you.

Note the first word.

To which I said

Beta said
So according to that... you're going to be on par with Superman, Hulk, Galactus, etc.

I repeat... Gods are not allowed.

... but you never said any of that and I'm making it up.

---

Here's a funny thing. Ysolda/Erde/Genocide's Mech, for example. All High-Tier characters. Superman/Hulk/Galactus/etc the "Top of the high tier" as you agree... would WIPE THE FUCKING FLOOR with every character in the RP attacking them at once. Yes, the High-Tier here is comprised of powerful characters. But the "top of the High Tier", as YOU AGREED that I put accurately via your own words... stand among Gods.

[TheBiddz]

Yeah, high ends right now are definitely not anyway close to Goku level (TO MY ENTERNAL chagrin.) LeeRoy's told me on more than one occasion that I have a huge boner for power, which isn't super far off. If we pushed the limits back farther on high tier, I would certainly edit Maxwell to fit, but only if everyone else edited their high characters too. Being 100 percent assured of a win is no fun. I love epic battles between characters who can tears cities/forests/mountains apart. It's so liberating. Right now, no one can really do that, (Besides like, the giant nuclear robot) and it makes me kind of sad. Also, out of curiosity, how many high tier characters would someone be able to enter before, in your opinion, it gets ridiculous?

[yoshua171]

I did not mean the previously established system when I said "top of high tier" as I understood that the current high tier goes up to the level of 8, not 9. This is where the misunderstanding occurred. I meant 8, not 9 (which would be Goku level, assuming we're talking about the Goku who had gone through the entirety of the DBZ series(most of the sagas).

[Salroka]

TheBiddz said
Also, out of curiosity, how many high tier characters would someone be able to enter before, in your opinion, it gets ridiculous?

My opinion? I think it should follow the Pokemon TCG guidelines of Basic/Stage 1/Stage 2.

3 Lower.
2 Middle.
1 High

AT MOST per person. Not that anyone NEEDS 6 characters total. ... yes, I am looking at you, Yoshua.

[yoshua171]

At most I will likely make four.

[Salroka]

TheBiddz said
I love epic battles between characters who can tears cities/forests/mountains apart. It's so liberating. Right now, no one can really do that, (Besides like, the giant nuclear robot)

Enwerd... want me to PM you some of the horrors that I can unleash with Ysolda? Because they're terrifying.

yoshua171 said
I did not mean the previously established system when I said "top of high tier" as I understood that the current high tier goes up to the level of 8, not 9. This is where the misunderstanding occurred. I meant 8, not 9 (which would be Goku level, assuming we're talking about the Goku who had gone through the entirety of the DBZ series(most of the sagas).

Then here's the crux of the issue. If that's the case, why would you AGREE with me... and now try to buy it back like Magic Johnson when I call you out on it? It's not funny, it's not kawaii, it's not sarcastic. It's backpedaling, Yosh. Plain and simple.

[yoshua171]

This is precisely why I said it was a misunderstanding on both ends -_-

I misunderstood what I was agreeing with, and you misunderstood what I meant when I agreed.

[ASTA]

Your character is at Goku's level.

Before I go thermonuclear, can it be known that the three tiers don't have 'sub-levels' to them?

[yoshua171]

*hits head against wall repeatedly* Again, as I just explained twice, no he is not. I didn't mean level 9 (using the ORIGINAL tier system that was on the old guild) I meant level 8, which is currently accessible in this very multiverse.

[TheBiddz]

Beta, I would love for you to PM some of the nastier things Ysolda is capable of. I need to see if I made Maxwell too weak here, which is honestly something I've been afraid of since I entered him here, because again, I wanted to make him strength focused instead of special abilities, and the strength level for high tier isn't super....high.

[Salroka]

yoshua171 said
*hits head against wall repeatedly* Again, as I just explained twice, no he is not. I didn't mean level 9 (using the ORIGINAL tier system that was on the old guild) I meant level 8, which is currently accessible in this very multiverse.

TheBiddz said
Beta, I would love for you to PM some of the nastier things Ysolda is capable of. I need to see if I made Maxwell too weak here, which is honestly something I've been afraid of since I entered him here, because again, I wanted to make him strength focused instead of special abilities, and the strength level for high tier isn't super....high.

Sure thing. And after that, I will work on the post that ASTA and LeeRoy have been waiting on. My body decided to wake me up, after all.

---

Ok, that meme was kinda mean... but absolutely hilarious.

[yoshua171]

Note to self: Next time you are questioned in any way by Beta, ignore him completely, he loves to troll. Not sure why it took you this long to remember that.

[ASTA]

TheBiddz said
Beta, I would love for you to PM some of the nastier things Ysolda is capable of. I need to see if I made Maxwell too weak here, which is honestly something I've been afraid of since I entered him here, because again, I wanted to make him strength focused instead of special abilities, and the strength level for high tier isn't super....high.

You could just do what I did and make a character without being unintentionally influenced by the power levels of other people's characters. You do this simply by not reading other people's power listings.

In all truth, I have no idea how powerful BoT is.

Though to be real, I don't think the individual potency of your character really matters, only your character's specific tier (which automatically dictates the overall effectiveness and power of your attacks, but not necessarily the applications attributed to them) and your ability to write engaging combat, which also ties into your capacity to use your environment and your foe's inherent weaknesses to your advantage.

In general, the more vague your writing is, the less effective your attacks are---at least that's what I'm getting from Skall's original intentions for this RP (as outlined in the OP).

[Salroka]

yoshua171 said
Note to self: Next time you are questioned in any way by Beta, ignore him completely, he loves to troll. Not sure why it took you this long to remember that.

Except I'm not merely trolling here, Yoshua. I am raising valid points on shit you agree with, then try to buy back like you're talking to a little kid.

It's like saying: "Well, I can lift 500 pounds!" so a kid asks if he can watch... while you're at a gym... and you say "Well, I can't ALWAYS lift that."

[yoshua171]

Except you're basing your conclusion(s) on a misunderstanding, which I had to point out more than once for you to realize.

[Salroka]

yoshua171 said
Except you're basing your conclusion(s) on a misunderstanding, which I had to point out more than once for you to realize.

Except you agreed with what I said, so...

Solution

Scrap your Superhulkgokurapeallthehightiers character... and go with something less Galactus-y?

[TheBiddz]

This is going nowhere incredibly fast.