[OOC] Gods, Men and Everything in Between

[DX3214]

I see no problem on making angels or whatever for the afterlife after all stuck on a place doing the same thing forever must be annoying as hell

[Boop_Im_A_Dragon]

I see no problem on making angels or whatever for the afterlife after all stuck on a place doing the same thing forever must be annoying as hell

@DX3214

That's not the issue though. He is trying to get away with spending 0 points on it even though it would qualify as creating a creature

[Schylerwalker]

Because they don't seem to serve a mechanical purpose within the context of the "game rules." It's just him describing how Hum collects all of the souls of the dead at the same time, without being in multiple places at once. It's cute.

[Boop_Im_A_Dragon]

Because they don't seem to serve a mechanical purpose within the context of the "game rules." It's just him describing how Hum collects all of the souls of the dead at the same time, without being in multiple places at once. It's cute.

@Schylerwalker

I mean neither do my creations...I don't see how that's a point. In fact, his arguably serve an even greater mechanical purpose than mine considering they actively help him and serve him

[Schylerwalker]

Yours could be effected by Create Orders and Command Race, and can potentially eliminate other Races and Cities in the world (Which will be everyone's source of Power in the coming ages).

[Boop_Im_A_Dragon]

Yours could be effected by Create Orders and Command Race, and can potentially eliminate other Races and Cities in the world (Which will be everyone's source of Power in the coming ages).

@Schylerwalker

This seems like a dangerous precedent of "oh how much of an impact does a race really have before I can just make it for free"

[Ascendant]

I planned for there to be Sirens for each race as appropriate to come collect their respective race, and because they're just souls that live in Sanctuary and are chosen to go collect other souls and return immediately so Hum doesn't have to be in multiple places at once and so Hum can still do his job of collecting souls from the Natural World despite being incentivized to remain almost pernanently in Sanctuary. They're not specifically a race or creature, more a job Hum gives out that has no real impact on the Natural World where things really matter. Hum can twist the lands of Sanctuary at will without expending Power, it makes sense he can just delegate soul collecting to some group of souls already in Sanctuary. But I am interested in theo's opinion.

And other Gods have zero power over Sirens as far as I can tell. They're souls in Sanctuary, Hum is lord of Sanctuary which is an entire Realm on its own. Other Gods can't Create Order, Command Race, Advance Race on Sirens and Sirens aren't a civilization on their own for instance.

If we wanted to be super technical it could be said that by Hum doing his job and "leaving" Sanctuary to collect souls, he isn't "remaining" to accrue the extra 3 Power. But that seems to me to not make sense, so Sirens are a simple solution.

[Boop_Im_A_Dragon]

I planned for there to be Sirens for each race as appropriate to come collect their respective race, and because they're just souls that live in Sanctuary and are chosen to go collect other souls and return immediately so Hum doesn't have to be in multiple places at once and so Hum can still do his job of collecting souls from the Natural World despite being incentivized to remain almost pernanently in Sanctuary. They're not specifically a race or creature, more a job Hum gives out that has no real impact on the Natural World where things really matter. Hum can twist the lands of Sanctuary at will without expending Power, it makes sense he can just delegate soul collecting to some group of souls already in Sanctuary. But I am interested in theo's opinion.

And other Gods have zero power over Sirens as far as I can tell. They're souls in Sanctuary, Hum is lord of Sanctuary which is an entire Realm on its own. Other Gods can't Create Order, Command Race, Advance Race on Sirens and Sirens aren't a civilization on their own for instance.

If we wanted to be super technical it could be said that by Hum doing his job and "leaving" Sanctuary to collect souls, he isn't "remaining" to accrue the extra 3 Power. But that seems to me to not make sense, so Sirens are a simple solution.

@Ascendant

Seems like a cheap excuse to not spend 11 power that you weren't going to spend anyways

[Murtox]

Just as FYI, I will make dinosaurs next turn.

[Ascendant]

According to Theo at the moment:

"Create Creature: (11 Power / 8 Power): This power effects the creation of a lesser creature in the world. This includes non-sapient creatures such as dragons, elementals and other monsters that may inhabit the land. They may be assigned a Size (Small, Medium, Large or Colossal) that will dictate how common or rare they are. These are creatures that will not form cultures or cities."

Sirens aren't non sapient, nor is Hum assigning them a Size that dictates how common or rare they are. It is Hum directly that decides how many Sirens to appoint. A Siren could be unappointed at will to return to being a normal dead soul. Part of a Siren's job does involve returning temporarily to collect souls, but they do not interact with the Natural World in any way. A dragon can burn and destroy cities. Sirens are basically just dead people given the job of collecting other dead people, neither of which are supposed to be able to interact with their old world.

A God of Life could resurrect a Siren, and I don't really see any other way for a God to mess with one, nor do I see why a God of Life would bother to do so since Sirens are not necessarily Champions or anyone particularly important or powerful.

[jimapple]

Just as FYI, I will make dinosaurs next turn.

@Murtox

Sentient?

[DX3214]

Smelling fire

[Murtox]

<Snipped quote by Murtox>

Sentient?

@jimapple

No. But my continent will probably be compared to the one of Monster Hunter.

[The Nexerus]

Okay, I will try to post IC tonight.

[Goldeagle1221]

Okay, I will try to post IC tonight.

@The Nexerus

Yeah, okay, pal.

[Schylerwalker]

I hope Theo is alive

[jimapple]

Agree.

[DX3214]

He said he is in a Trip or travel or something

[Ascendant]

This is fairly normal. I believe he still travels fairly often for work and often just disappears at times. I think he'll probably turn up soon.

[The Nexerus]

This is fairly normal. I believe he still travels fairly often for work and often just disappears at times. I think he'll probably turn up soon.

@Ascendant

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