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[Dion]

@Prisk yeah inclined to agree... she probably knew of him but unfortunately (and I get that this is probably lazy writing, but it was a setup for his power and future arcs) I wrote him as being sort of under the radar, yeah. I guess the only hook could be his father being a semi-important mid-level criminal of sorts if your character has any knowledge on that part of the world. But that's a big if, I think.

[CaliforniaState]

I actually liked the format that Prisk made for relations.

Lucas: I would venture to say since they were both bright in school they got along pretty well, even after the rumors spread, just with Meir not knowing how to help nor reach out. Probably stuck to exceling in academia as a backwards decision.

Genesis: Probably didn't talk too much, but definitely gained a lot of respect for her when she threw up on the QB.

Prisk: I agreed with what you said in your relation sheet, sad for Meir.

Odin: More or less the same issue people will run into regarding how secretive Ben was.

Eleven: Meir most definitely would have had a crush on Freya but never actually expressed it, mostly pining from afar.

Banjo: I think Sara and Meir would have actually been really good friends as they would have participated in almost the exact type of academic circulars and had a friendly competition in terms of grades.

Sweven7: This ones not too hard, they more or less would have been the epitome of bullied and bullier dynamic you see in almost every movie.

Nodogs: Meir would have considered her a friend despite it being a one sides relationship haha, mostly because the two of them could interact since Jack wasn't really too picky on who she hung out with. Any interaction for Meir that wasn't negative was good for Meir.

[Mirandae]

<Snipped quote by Prisk>

jack probably wouldn't have minded talking to hanna during classes (especially the boring ones) but would've withheld some judgement about the company she kept. maybe after the house party jack was more noticeably absent from their conversations, being secretive about her own sexuality at the time and not wanting the association. whenever hanna was with her friends jack would've probably avoided her.

@nodogs

Ah, so after the incident where Hanna cheated on her boyfriend with a chick, Jack became paranoid about association by proxy. I get it, that's good. Would Hanna know about Jack's sexuality somehow, even if just suspecting?

[skidcrow]

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Ah, so after the incident where Hanna cheated on her boyfriend with a chick, Jack became paranoid about association by proxy. I get it, that's good. Would Hanna know about Jack's sexuality somehow, even if just suspecting?

@Prisk

jack's sexuality was an open secret by the later years of high school—she never publicly dated anybody, and when she did let slip that she had a date she refused to say who it was with—so i feel hanna would've definitely been able to get an idea of it before then.

Nodogs: Meir would have considered her a friend despite it being a one sides relationship haha, mostly because the two of them could interact since Jack wasn't really too picky on who she hung out with. Any interaction for Meir that wasn't negative was good for Meir.

@Salsa Verde

yeah i agree with all of this. she probably interacted with meir more when in the middle of changing friend groups again, since he was a manageable conversation and probably wouldn't hound her with questions about the latest big friend group drama?

just eating my friend's half-exploded porridge and then i will get on the rest of relations for jack now i've had a little think about them

[banjoanjo]

Sara Stuff

• Her brother worked part-time as a kitchen hand at the Bistro. If he didn’t get the job at first, he would have nagged his way into the position, constantly swinging by to get the staff to try his cooking. When Willard disappeared, Donovan was the first person Sara asked for his whereabouts.
• Willard dreamed of opening a restaurant in Delton, one great and crazy enough for Guy Fieri to feature on his show. He swore that Sara would be his right hand chef. (“It’s sous chef, you dork.”)
• Sara’s mom told her to get a hobby so she decided to get into beer brewing with help from the guys at P.J’s. In return she lends them a hand with their events, occasionally with bookkeeping too. Due to her unofficial apprenticeship she often goes straight there after work.
• She’s not gay though. Why do people keep assuming that?
• She campaigned for Student Council President back in high school. The campaign ran out of steam after Willard left so she settled for the position of Treasurer.
• No one knows how she balances her day job with her P.J’s commitments and her online degree. (She naps a lot in the break room.)
  Once she heard about the reunion, she would have had a big hand in getting the word out about it. She’s bringing a keg in her trunk for the demolition watching.

Relationships

Lucas @Mao Mao
If Lucas was friends with Meir they probably talked often enough for her to remember the boy behind all the tragedy. But after the profile leaked and he started flunking, he became little more than an example of what not to be.

Connor @Sweven7
It would be nice to hang out with another beer appreciator but unfortunately she finds it hard to look past the stereotypical popular white jock he was back then, even if he’s mellowed out now. She’s cordial to him and his wife at least when they pop by the store. Has made the mistake of asking if there were any kids on the way at least once.

Freya @Eleven
Depends if she was one of Freya’s ‘unlikely friends’. Sara would have wanted to keep it under wraps, knowing how other people viewed her relationships as weirdly contractual. If anyone knew about it, Freya – or worse, other people – would likely just assume she was using the rich girl for popularity or a brief escape from middle class life.
If they weren’t friends then Sara wouldn’t take the initiative to talk to her. Freya would just be a face she’d note from the periphery of a party.

Benjamin @Odin
Maybe if his grades were better she’d probably remember who that was.

Hanna @Prisk
The bathroom encounters were an inevitability. Sara would have tried making an acerbic comeback before realizing there was no way she’d ever beat a mean girl in a competition of smack talk. She used a different bathroom for the rest of that school year.
The years have passed and Sara has let go of her grudge, chalking it down to it being a standard high school experience. Honestly, after the cheerleader drama, the thing that stands out the most about Hanna in her mind is her hypocrisy.

Meir @Salsa Verde (i get hungry every time i read your gd username)
They probably were good friends. Decathlon buddies? Sara would have been openly jealous of his superior grades but also appreciative that there was another person who excelled through hard work rather than natural talent. Out of the cast, he’s the only one she would have tried staying in contact with after graduation, though that stopped after a measly few months.

Genesis @fledermaus
If Genesis was the one chugging vodka on the table, Sara was the one wiping the shoeprints off afterwards. Sara secretly prided herself on knowing how to avoid trouble.

Jack @nodogs
A casual friend in high school likely. She would have tried recruiting Jack to the girl’s soccer team several times, until it became a running joke between them (from Sara’s perspective anyway). Though Sara would consciously avoid the Bistro, since they both stayed in Delton and weren’t actively hostile, there's a good chance Jack is the person Sara is most familiar with out of the cast currently.

[Gisk]

So Salsa approached me via PM and offered the spot that opened up. I assume as the co-GM they have the authority to do that, so I'll be joining after all.

I hope to have a relationship sheet up tonight, I haven't read all the sheets yet(first I didn't want to because I didn't know who would be accepted, then I initially wasn't and so did not bother).

But anyone can feel free to let me know what relationship they think they'd have with Billy, or just add him to your own sheets, and we can talk about it.

[Mirandae]

@OdinYeah, no, she'd be too dumb to know that.

@nodogsAlright, that sounds good to me. Are we getting some kind of character sheet extension for all these character relation notes and character 'trivia'?

@banjoanjo
Indeed, the hypocrisy is immense. I think I'll try some kind of mini-redemption arc for the Hanna/Sara interaction, going back to that specific issue.

WILLIAM@Gisk
I think I'll just have Hanna to have been a casual 'fan' of William's. Digging his vibe, style, looks, repost his stuff on social media—all that shit. This doesn't necessarily have to involve a personal interaction, though. Maybe this is something?

[Gisk]

I wrote that Billy doesn't really roll in her social circle, so I think it's actually kind funny if she secretly admired him in a way, but didn't talk to him directly much.

So I'll keep mine like that, but make a slight edit to reflect that he was vaguely aware that she followed him on Instagram.

[fledermaus]

GENESIS@fledermaus
Genny and Hanna probably know each other through house parties. It seems like the most likely places that they've sort of met, or rather Hanna taking note of Genny's partying habits. That vodka barf on the quarterback would've put her on Hanna's radar for sure—as a fun thing, though.

@Prisk

Genesis and Hanna had probably run into each other during their party hopping. I imagine that Genesis might've been a target of Hanna's friend group once or twice throughout the years due to Genesis's hot temper and surly attitude. Genesis probably doesn't have that high of an opinion on Hanna due to her friend group and her obsession with status.

Genesis: Probably didn't talk too much, but definitely gained a lot of respect for her when she threw up on the QB.

@Salsa Verde

Genesis probably didn't have much an opinion on Meir other than being the quiet, nerdy kid. She mightve pitied him a bit if she saw him being bullied, but wouldn't care enough to step in to stop it.

Genesis @fledermaus
If Genesis was the one chugging vodka on the table, Sara was the one wiping the shoeprints off afterwards. Sara secretly prided herself on knowing how to avoid trouble.

@banjoanjo

I can kind of see Genesis and Sara being unlikely friends during high school, Genesis being drawn to Sara for her reliability, intelligence, and kindness. They could've lost touch after graduation, though, and Genesis still feels guilty about not being there for Sara during her time of need. What do you think?

HERE ARE SOME OTHER RELATIONS AND SUGGESTIONS! If you guys have other ideas, let me know :D

OTHER RELATIONS

JACK_@nodogs
Genesis would like chilling with Jack and playing hooky. Genesis hated school and often sat in the back of the class, maybe making sardonic comments to Jack under her breath or passing her notes? I think they'd have that kind of relationship built on similar mindsets - not quite friends, but they hung out with each other here and there nevertheless kinda thing.

LUCAS_{@Mao Mao}
I don't really see Lucas and Genesis being friends. If anything, Genesis was probably rude to Lucas on one or two occasions, not consistent enough for her to be a bully but enough that he probably doesn't have a very good opinion of her.

FREYA_@Eleven
Genesis would be a frequenter at Freya's parties. I can even see them being friends, though Freya hanging around with the popular clique being a point of contention between the two as Genesis is one of those people who pride themselves on being "real".

BEN_@Odin
Mmmm, I don't see Genesis having much of an opinion on Ben, tbh. I don't see them being friends since Ben is such an under the radar person and Genesis is just a hot mess.

CONNOR_@Sweven7
It could be possible for Connor to be the one Genesis' vomited on at the party lmao. If that's the case, I can see Genesis often bickering and insulting Connor because of the embarrassment of the whole thing afterwards.

BILLY_@Gisk
I can see Genesis being annoyed with Billy, especially if he dragged her into the limelight once or twice. She doesn't like attention, despite how much negative attention she usually gets, and it would really annoy her.

[Gisk]

Relationships

Obviously these are all just first thoughts and suggestions, I'd love to hear what you think as well, since of course you know your own characters better.

@nodogs
Jack: Billy would have been insistent on staying in her ever shifting circle of friends. I'll leave it to you how she took that.

@Salsa Verde
Mier: Billy would be decent to him, but probably didn't have a lot of interest or common ground to form any real friendship.

@banjoanjo
Sara: if she helped with theater or school talent shows, they would be well acquainted. If I'm reading her right, they both have a people pleasing streak that probably put them together on the same tasks a lot. If you're cool with it, maybe he asked her out once, got rebuffed and kept his distance since.

@Prisk
Hanna: Billy was well liked, but in high school that's not the same as popular, and for the most part they didn't really move in the same circles. They did, however, follow each other on Instagram, and actually still do(though, for his part Billy is only vaguely aware of the fact).

@fledermaus
Genesis: I think they could easily have been "party friends." They'd go out and drink together, but not really because they liked each other. When sober they probably detested each other's company, so I think they'd have had a tempestuous relationship if they had any at all.

@Mao Mao
Lucas: Feel free to reject this, but I think they might have been close until they both abruptly moved out of their respective homes after graduation. Two not-quite-out queer teens gravitating toward each other over illicit smoke breaks.

@Eleven
Freya: Billy would be an ever present face at house parties thrown at her place. They would be as close as she would let them get, so I leave that to you, and we can discuss it at more length if needed.

@Odin
Ben: If someone brings up Benjamin Moore, Billy will be adamant that they must be making him up.

@Sweven7
Conner: I expect they hated each other. I can see Conner jumping in on some jape of Billy's, and simultaneously spoiling the fun, and stealing attention away.

[skidcrow]

Jack @nodogs
A casual friend in high school likely. She would have tried recruiting Jack to the girl’s soccer team several times, until it became a running joke between them (from Sara’s perspective anyway). Though Sara would consciously avoid the Bistro, since they both stayed in Delton and weren’t actively hostile, there's a good chance Jack is the person Sara is most familiar with out of the cast currently.

@banjoanjo

i like that! some of my earliest iterations of jack, like way over 3 years ago, actually had her associated with either the women's soccer or women's baseball. i also liked sara's comments the last time on jack's secrecy with her sexuality, if that's something you'd be bringing over. in terms of current-day delton, if the two ever saw each other in town jack would probably let sara be the first to approach—if she even wanted to. she's not gonna invade on someone's day just because they went to school together.

JACK_@nodogs
Genesis would like chilling with Jack and playing hooky. Genesis hated school and often sat in the back of the class, maybe making sardonic comments to Jack under her breath or passing her notes? I think they'd have that kind of relationship built on similar mindsets - not quite friends, but they hung out with each other here and there nevertheless kinda thing.

@fledermaus

yeah, i see the two of them as having that foundation but never really putting in the maintenance enough to be considered a friendship. they would've definitely seen eye-to-eye on the daily goings of ritman. at parties jack would've probably gravitated near her if given the chance.

@nodogs
Jack: Billy would have been insistent on staying in her ever shifting circle of friends. I'll leave it to you how she took that.

@Gisk

i think she would've tried avoiding him once or twice, realised it wasn't worth the effort and gave up. she probably would've been obviously not-too-engaged in their conversations, but she'd smirk at his antics sometimes (even if she'd never admit it). if he ever tried to do the whole "center-of-attention" routine on her she would definitely find a way to shut that shit down. probably play hooky somewhere lesser known for the next few days. his band's music is on her guilty pleasure playlist.

@nodogsAlright, that sounds good to me. Are we getting some kind of character sheet extension for all these character relation notes and character 'trivia'?

@Prisk

honestly i think it's not necessary because these relationships will change and develop. if you're really insistent on a certain piece of trivia i don't mind people editing the non-power categories on the sheet to fit it in somewhere. this is all just to provide a basis for character interaction when the ic starts instead of piecing it all together from nothing. speaking of, i will be posting that (and for real this time) as soon as this post sends. fun! i'll pick up whichever relations for jack i haven't already discussed after that.

[Eleven]

freya relationships

Jack ^@nodogs
Being frequently surrounded by snobs and gossips and clout chasers, Freya probably gravitated toward Jack (whenever she could find her around school, at least) when she needed a breather. To Freya, her indifference was like an oasis. They probably wouldn't talk about anything too deep, maybe sometimes would even just listen to music together? Whatever it is, Freya would have been relaxed around her.

Meir ^{@Salsa Verde}
Knew him to be a target of certain groups she hung out with. They probably had a couple of AP classes together, since Freya did pretty well academically? She knew how smart he was and probably quietly rooted for him to get through high school so he could properly bloom into his potential.

Sara

Depends if she was one of Freya’s ‘unlikely friends’. Sara would have wanted to keep it under wraps, knowing how other people viewed her relationships as weirdly contractual. If anyone knew about it, Freya – or worse, other people – would likely just assume she was using the rich girl for popularity or a brief escape from middle class life.
If they weren’t friends then Sara wouldn’t take the initiative to talk to her. Freya would just be a face she’d note from the periphery of a party.

@banjoanjo

Ooh, yes, I’d like for her to be one of the unlikely friends! Maybe when Freya and her family first moved in, it was Sara who welcomed her? Freya could have known Willard too. Maybe they have a secret place they go to meet up and hang out, because Freya knew not to get anyone involved in the scandals that plagued her. Sara would have been a trusted confidant, and she opened up to her more than she normally would.

Freya would have regretted not keeping in contact with her after they moved back to New York without a word, mirroring what Willard did just months prior.

Hanna

Hanna definitely knows of Freya, somehow. Perhaps even after Delton? Seeing as both of them live in NY. I don't know where to start the connection, though. There is quite a few strings to use here, especially this one "Although she often hung around her elitist clique...". I'm thinking Hanna and her buddies belong to that title.

@Prisk

Yes, I would think that Hanna and her friends are part of the popular circles that Freya surrounded herself with! Freya always invited people over to her stereotypical rich girl house, so maybe they saw each other pretty often?

Freya would have only tolerated Jennifer and Madeleine at best, and she didn't care for any of their mean girl shenanigans. Hanna would have intrigued her more, mostly because of their conflicting worldviews. She often wondered how Hanna wasn't exhausted from putting so much stock on what other people thought of her.

How do you think they'd get along in NY? Freya is currently a creative director for a fashion magazine, so they’d have some overlap in that area? Her mom’s a socialite so they have connections galore.

Genesis

Genesis would be a frequenter at Freya's parties. I can even see them being friends, though Freya hanging around with the popular clique being a point of contention between the two as Genesis is one of those people who pride themselves on being "real".

@fledermaus

Yep, that's what I think too! A lot of her other ‘friends’ don't like Genesis and some were downright afraid of her acerbic remarks and candor, but Freya admired her for it, however brutal it could be. Genny would have known which rumors about Freya were real, and they'd laugh at the more ridiculous ones.

Maybe there was a point where they started hanging out a lot, beyond the parties. Freya would have known Genny didn't like the other people she surrounded herself with, but she was too afraid to let them go. They'd been necessary in keeping her distracted from the drama at home. Her refusal to break ties with them could have led to them drifting apart?

Lucas ^{@Mao Mao}
Freya would have heard about the incident with his dating profile and maybe approached him to help him deal with being the subject of a rumor? She sympathized a lot with his plight, even though she knew their circumstances were completely different. Her life definitely didn't get upended like his over a rumor. It probably didn't help that she hung around the people that put him in that situation, though.

Ben ^@Odin
Hm, Freya’s family is pretty shady, so I’m wondering if her dad and his would have some sort of connection?

But yeah, like calls to like, and even if Freya and Ben might not have interacted too much, she would have seen him as a sort of kindred spirit. It's in the way he conducted himself, the perfectly manicured persona – it was all too familiar.

Connor ^@Sweven7
Think they would have been around the same circles? He was easy enough to get along with, so Freya liked him. Maybe she liked how he didn't fawn over her like some of the other boys did. She would have probably called him late at night so she could get away from her own home drama, maybe joined some of his nightly car rides.

Billy

Billy would be an ever present face at house parties thrown at her place. They would be as close as she would let them get, so I leave that to you, and we can discuss it at more length if needed.

@Gisk

I can see Billy being one of those she actually considered a true friend. Freya would have admired his strong sense of self. His music is not her usual cup of tea, but when she's had a few drinks, she loves it. Maybe she even sings along when he plays piano. She has a nice, sweet voice, but it’s not meant for pop punk lol

When he released his album, she bought it to support him, but found she likes to blast it on the speakers whenever she needs to be in the zone for work. If he ever had a show in New York, she would have gone to see it.

freya notes

• Was a member of the cheer squad, though didn't care enough to be captain. Voted Prom Queen during junior year
• Did ballet and retains some habits from then
• Left-handed
• Longest relationship has been three weeks and four days
• Likes playing obscure indie games and horror games
• Her dad was incarcerated during her sophomore year, and was charged with multiple counts of embezzlement and fraud. Somehow, he was able to run the family business while he was away. He was supposed to face a minimum of ten years, but was released two years later.
• Coincidentally, that's when they moved back to New York.

[Dion]

@Eleven there is definitely some possibility for us to cooperatively come up with a backstory here -- in fact, her dad would fit pretty well (err, more like perfectly) for what I want Ben and his dad to be involved in. The fact that their powers are sort of the same but also totally different is really interesting too. Would you mind if I PMed you with some extra info? We can figure out from there if there's a link between them -- if you like, of course!

[Eleven]

@Odin ooh, yes, go ahead with the PM! :D That's exactly what I was hoping for in terms of their family's connection. I was super excited to explore their dynamics because of their almost parallel powers and backstory, but didn't want to interfere with anything you may have planned. Working together on the backstory would be great!

[CaliforniaState]

A bit obvious but the IC is up so feel free to post whenever the inspiration strikes you!

[skidcrow]

Jack ^@nodogs
Being frequently surrounded by snobs and gossips and clout chasers, Freya probably gravitated toward Jack (whenever she could find her around school, at least) when she needed a breather. To Freya, her indifference was like an oasis. They probably wouldn't talk about anything too deep, maybe sometimes would even just listen to music together? Whatever it is, Freya would have been relaxed around her.

@Eleven

yeah, jack never opposed company and would've talked about anything but dumb gossip. she would've been appreciative of the parties too. as with hanna there would be a little withheld judgement in regards to the people freya hung around with, though not to the same extent given she would probably figure out freya's sort of 'disdain' for the mean girl act.

-- lucas @Mao Mao
jack probably would've hung with lucas on his smoke breaks, but once the shit hit the fan with the rumour mill she'd stop showing up. she would maybe talk to him in the hall if it was quiet but otherwise kept her distance.

-- ben @Odin
i feel ben and jack would've crossed paths for some period of time, given that he would've been in a friend group she'd have no problem inserting herself into. the two of them were also probably at similar levels academically, jack maybe skirting the under-achiever line a little more than ben's perfect middle.

-- connor @Sweven7
jack would be amused by his antics, and then find it even funnier when they got him into shit. she probably knew of him more than he knew of her given their different worlds.

[Mirandae]

@Eleven
Fuck yes, they'd get a long well. I'd be down for Hanna being one of many influencer connections for the magazine, focusing on promoting the fashion through social media and events in the city. Maybe Freya's mom helped Hanna to get started and really get things going? That'd really deepen the connection between the two. So, Hanna and Freya would have something like weekly contact with each other, or at least bi-weekly if not only for business reasons.

[Gisk]

@nodogs what's the nicest hotel in Delton?

[Gisk]

I'm saving my post until everyone has gotten in, because I think it's very on brand for Billy to show up last.

But, for anyone who checks their phone, he comments on the picture that Jack sent.

”be here or be squeer?”

(Referencing that her use of the phrase didn't actually rhyme.)

[banjoanjo]

@fledermaus
I can picture Sara keeping an eye on Gen after that big incident at later parties out of her sense of duty, and them getting to know each other from that. Maybe after a while, if they somehow started talking at school as well, she'd even 'accidentally' leave her notes out for Gen to copy.

@Gisk
That works with me! If we want to take it further we could even say they went on one date that went terribly then started drifting apart haha.

@nodogs
Wooah. Reading over that old IC, Sara was a lot angrier/bitter than I remembered lol. Anyhow, she'd have the same opinions about Jack's sexuality as the last iteration, maybe more light-hearted about it since they're more familiar here. I hope Jack likes beer cos Sara needs someone to taste all her dud batches.

@Eleven
That sounds great, I really enjoy fleshing out Sara and especially Willard's friendships. The double disappearance is gonna be very uncomfortable for Sara to deal with after all these years, gonna be interesting to see it play out.

If you'd like, we could PM more about some Willard stuff?

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Gonna try and get a post out around the weekend.