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That is a really good sheet. I am conflicted if i should have it where its just custom stands. If you want i can pick another stand, if you wanna pick up Sticky Fingers?


Oh no, no, I’d never seriously ask you to just pick something else, especially since you've already got your character comfortably completed. First come first serve. I’d prefer to use what I’m proposing, but if I really must, I will swap for something else. It’ll be disappointing to not be able to use this Stand concept in a pure Jojo setting, but I’m sure I’ll get over it.

You’re the GM, so it’s ultimately up to you. All I’m asking is for the idea to be given consideration. Ah, and on that first bit, I’m sure you could get the best of both worlds if you want. Nothing’s stopping you from having both original and canon Stands in the mix, not just one or the other.
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Oh no, no, I’d never seriously ask you to just pick something else, especially since you've already got your character comfortably completed. First come first serve. I’d prefer to use what I’m proposing, but if I really must, I will swap for something else. It’ll be disappointing to not be able to use this Stand concept in a pure Jojo setting, but I’m sure I’ll get over it.

You’re the GM, so it’s ultimately up to you. All I’m asking is for the idea to be given consideration. Ah, and on that first bit, I’m sure you could get the best of both worlds if you want. Nothing’s stopping you from having both original and canon Stands in the mix, not just one or the other.


Yeah I might consider it, give me a few hours to maul it over and I will get back to you with my decision.
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Yeah I might consider it, give me a few hours to maul it over and I will get back to you with my decision.


Neato. On that note, I'm pretty sure if you eventually decide on "no", I'll be going with Gold Experience. I've got a weakness for Speed/Precision-build Stands over brutes in some cases, and GE is both a heavy utility that can hold its ground against said brutes and a healer, the latter of which I think I'd like to ensure the party has at least one of. Crazy Diamond is also tempting, but I'd like to be able to heal myself too, thanks. lol

Also because the idea of unleashing a life-shot/berserk sense 7 Page Muda combined with an ally's Stand rush at the same time for massively multiplied pain sounds absolutely hilarious and overkill and glorious.
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Neato. On that note, I'm pretty sure if you eventually decide on "no", I'll be going with Gold Experience. I've got a weakness for Speed/Precision-build Stands over brutes in some cases, and GE is both a heavy utility that can hold its ground against said brutes and a healer, the latter of which I think I'd like to ensure the party has at least one of. Crazy Diamond is also tempting, but I'd like to be able to heal myself too, thanks. lol

Also because the idea of unleashing a life-shot/berserk sense 7 Page Muda combined with an ally's Stand rush at the same time for massively multiplied pain sounds absolutely hilarious and overkill and glorious.


Lol Golden Experience would be a good choice if your going for a healer type. Cream Starter would be another good choice as well.
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Lol Golden Experience would be a good choice if your going for a healer type. Cream Starter would be another good choice as well.


I'm pretty biased towards punch ghost Stands, so I just don't vibe with Cream Starter at all.
Also, GE appeals to me for not just the healing, but all the other abilities that simply didn't get the chance to have a lot of spotlight in the series beyond the first few episodes (looking at you life-shot, damage reflecting lifeforms and shapeshifting the environment into life). It's not really that I specifically want a "healer-type" so much as a Stand that just happens to be able to heal; it's simply that barring Crazy Diamond, there's really no substitute for sheer healing power paired with other goodies than Gold Experience. One reason Sticky Fingers was a standout option was that it can at least "pseudo-heal" by zipping severed body parts back together while being strong enough in a straight fight to limit how much the user will get hurt in the first place.

On another note, are there any setting changes we should be mindful of in particular when backstory crafting? Or things that still happened anyway (like the Joestar origins or, in fact, if the Joestars exist at all)? Or is this like a full breakdown and rebuild of the setting even outside the Stand redistribution? Seems like you're going for something like an alternate Part 7 type scenario almost (in the sense of being post-Joestar/Made in Heaven era).
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I'm pretty biased towards punch ghost Stands, so I just don't vibe with Cream Starter at all.
Also, GE appeals to me for not just the healing, but all the other abilities that simply didn't get the chance to have a lot of spotlight in the series beyond the first few episodes (looking at you life-shot, damage reflecting lifeforms and shapeshifting the environment into life). It's not really that I specifically want a "healer-type" so much as a Stand that just happens to be able to heal; it's simply that barring Crazy Diamond, there's really no substitute for sheer healing power paired with other goodies than Gold Experience. One reason Sticky Fingers was a standout option was that it can at least "pseudo-heal" by zipping severed body parts back together while being strong enough in a straight fight to limit how much the user will get hurt in the first place.

On another note, are there any setting changes we should be mindful of in particular when backstory crafting? Or things that still happened anyway (like the Joestar origins or, in fact, if the Joestars exist at all)? Or is this like a full breakdown and rebuild of the setting even outside the Stand redistribution? Seems like you're going for something like an alternate Part 7 type scenario almost (in the sense of being post-Joestar/Made in Heaven era).


So I have thought about it and decided only to have canon stands be playable for this rp. However, if you like we can do a 1x1 rp taking place in the Jojo universe with some custom stands.

I had something like Part 7 in mind where things happen a lot differently than in the OG canon. Like the Joestars origin is much different than canon. And since Hamon is a thing, it would be more of a reimagining of the OG universe.
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So I have thought about it and decided only to have canon stands be playable for this rp. However, if you like we can do a 1x1 rp taking place in the Jojo universe with some custom stands.

I had something like Part 7 in mind where things happen a lot differently than in the OG canon. Like the Joestars origin is much different than canon. And since Hamon is a thing, it would be more of a reimagining of the OG universe.


Alright, I understand. I’ll make a final look through potential Stands, but I’m pretty confident my choice will be Gold Experience. And then I’ll edit the sheet appropriately.

Never tried a 1v1 RP before, but that offer is tempting. I’ll mull it over.

And neat. Basically reset timeline it is. Then we’re diving straight into complete unknown territory aside from the fundamental basics like the power systems remaining. Given Hamon exists though, that makes me wonder what happened to the Pillar Men and Vampires in this AU…
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Alright, I undeestand. I’ll make a final look through potential Stands, but I’m pretty confident my choice will be Gold Experience. And then I’ll edit the sheet appropriately.

Never tried a 1v1 RP before, but that offer is tempting. I’ll mull it over.

And neat. Basically reset timeline it is. Then we’re diving straight into complete unknown territory aside from the fundamental basics like the power systems remaining. Given Hamon exists though, that makes me wonder what happened to the Pillar Men and Vampires in this AU…


I can help you with the 1x1 RP if you consider it. I have a stand idea I wanted to try out as well, and I think doing a 1x1 rp would be a good way to use this stand.

So for the Vampires/Pillarmen that is something I want to keep a surprise for the players :)
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I can help you with the 1x1 RP if you consider it. I have a stand idea I wanted to try out as well, and I think doing a 1x1 rp would be a good way to use this stand.

So for the Vampires/Pillarmen that is something I want to keep a surprise for the players :)


Like I said, I'll mull the idea over. Haven't done it before, and my interest lies more in larger RP projects at the moment.

"..." What a "comforting" combination of words you have just injected into my eyeballs. lol

Also, updated character sheet.

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Like I said, I'll mull the idea over. Haven't done it before, and my interest lies more in larger RP projects at the moment.

"..." What a "comforting" combination of words you have just injected into my eyeballs. lol

Also, updated character sheet.



Sure, let me know if you wanna do the 1x1 rp. And your sheet looks good, you can just add it into the character thread.

Hi @scrawls how are we doing on the character sheet?
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You know... it occurs to me... Can Gold Experience create Hamon? Hamon seems to essentially be a special form of life energy, and life energy is GE's entire jam. We also know Hamon can be channeled through Stands in the case of Hermit Purple, so they're clearly compatible with the energy. So, if it got the chance to witness Hamon... Well, I suppose that'll be something I can explore later with that A-Rank in Potential. >:)
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You know... it occurs to me... Can Gold Experience create Hamon? Hamon seems to essentially be a special form of life energy, and life energy is GE's entire jam. We also know Hamon can be channeled through Stands in the case of Hermit Purple, so they're clearly compatible with the energy. So, if it got the chance to witness Hamon... Well, I suppose that'll be something I can explore later with that A-Rank in Potential. >:)


Maybe, I would assume you'd have to be a hamon user or know hamon before gaining your stand to combine the two.
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Maybe, I would assume you'd have to be a hamon user or know hamon before gaining your stand to combine the two.


Given that we really only seem to have one example to draw from, I'm not sure how much of a pattern that presents.

My thought process here is essentially:
Hamon is generated by special breathing but is, in effect, nothing more than a form of natural life energy that can be cultivated. Hamon users don't draw it from anything; they just straight-up produce it.
Gold Experience can sense and manipulate all life energy and biological processes.
Ergo, it follows that there is a high chance that Gold Experience either by default can sense and manipulate Hamon (at least on a basic level) without any talent/capacity of its user necessary or can otherwise develop the ability to do so. I doubt the abilities available to it as a Stand would be a 1-1 transfer, but I don't doubt it has the potential. And I definitely doubt that if the user managed to gain Hamon that GE wouldn't be able to channel its effects from them.
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Given that we really only seem to have one example to draw from, I'm not sure how much of a pattern that presents.

My thought process here is essentially:
Hamon is generated by special breathing but is, in effect, nothing more than a form of natural energy that can be cultivated. Hamon users don't draw it from anything; they just straight-up produce it.
Gold Experience can sense and manipulate all life energy and biological processes.
Ergo, it follows that there is a high chance that Gold Experience either by default can sense and manipulate Hamon (at least on a basic level) without any talent/capacity of its user necessary or can otherwise develop the ability to do so. I doubt the abilities available to it as a Stand would be a 1-1 transfer, but I don't doubt it has the potential. And I definitely doubt that if the user managed to gain Hamon that GE wouldn't be able to channel its effects from them.


Mmm let me think about it, because i am unsure how powerful both GE and hamon would be together. Unless you say your character is already a hamon user, i guess that would be a good way to explain it.
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Mmm let me think about it, because i am unsure how powerful both GE and hamon would be together. Unless you say your character is already a hamon user, i guess that would be a good way to explain it.


Eh, I don't really see how having her start with Hamon would make it more feasible, to be honest, as the premise of my musing was that even outside what other Stands might require to channel Hamon (which isn't confirmed), GE seems uniquely suited by its ability to be an exception to the general pattern. Honestly, I'm not really interested in adding another layer to Kasumi's backstory. I'm not looking to tack another thing on this early; after all, Gold Experience on its own already has a lot going for it. I'm just brainstorming.

To clarify, I'm not posing this as an ability that GE would start off with (by which, I mean just mimicking Hamon straight-up). At most, on a base level, it could detect Hamon, feel it flow like any other life energy. Maybe generate it roughly but not actually shape it into functional techniques. Actually duplicating Hamon abilities would probably take time and training, even assuming GE grants the user a natural leg up/"talent" Jonathan-style for power-leveling it. They'd still likely need a decent teacher or specific opponents (ie, Vampires or Pillar Men) to push them to develop it seriously. I'm just proposing this is something that feasibly makes sense for Gold Experience to exert that really high Potential stat on down the line, just like any other Stand that develops new abilities as a series goes on.
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Eh, I don't really see how having her start with Hamon would make it more feasible, to be honest, as the premise of my musing was that even outside what other Stands might require to channel Hamon (which isn't confirmed), GE seems uniquely suited by its ability to be an exception to the general pattern. Honestly, I'm not really interested in adding another layer to Kasumi's backstory. I'm not looking to tack another thing on this early; after all, Gold Experience on its own already has a lot going for it. I'm just brainstorming.

To clarify, I'm not posing this as an ability that GE would start off with (by which, I mean just mimicking Hamon straight-up). At most, on a base level, it could detect Hamon, feel it flow like any other life energy. Maybe generate it roughly but not actually shape it into functional techniques. Actually duplicating Hamon abilities would probably take time and training, even assuming GE grants the user a natural leg up/"talent" Jonathan-style for power-leveling it. They'd still likely need a decent teacher or specific opponents (ie, Vampires or Pillar Men) to push them to develop it seriously. I'm just proposing this is something that feasibly makes sense for Gold Experience to exert that really high Potential stat on down the line, just like any other Stand that develops new abilities as a series goes on.


Okay let me think about it. I just want to keep things balanced for the shake of the rp. I was thinking of introducing a Hamon user later on, so their is a possibility of them interacting.
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Okay let me think about it. I just want to keep things balanced for the shake of the rp. I was thinking of introducing a Hamon user later on, so their is a possibility of them interacting.


Yee. All understandable. Honestly, I'm just brainstorming right now, but this whole thought project is kinda rooted in the nature of Developmental Potential and the ability of Stands to just spontaneously gain new abilities as long as it roughly aligns with the theme of their powers. May be something to consider deciding how you want to approach before it comes up, the possibility of canon Stands developing non-canon abilities/techniques.

As an aside, seeing as activity here seemed a bit lacking with just the two of us passing the ball, I dropped a rec for this RP in one of the discord servers I frequent, so you may see some more interest around here soon. Seems like you may have got another bite that's interested in potentially taking The Hand as a Stand, which I'm sure would be... interesting in hands outside of Okuyasu's.
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Yee. All understandable. Honestly, I'm just brainstorming right now, but this whole thought project is kinda rooted in the nature of Developmental Potential and the ability of Stands to just spontaneously gain new abilities as long as it roughly aligns with the theme of their powers. May be something to consider deciding how you want to approach before it comes up, the possibility of canon Stands developing non-canon abilities/techniques.

As an aside, seeing as activity here seemed a bit lacking with just the two of us passing the ball, I dropped a rec for this RP in one of the discord servers I frequent, so you may see some more interest around here soon. Seems like you may have got another bite that's interested in potentially taking The Hand as a Stand, which I'm sure would be... interesting in hands outside of Okuyasu's.


Thank you very much. I need to advertise this rp. I think 2 or more people would be good enough.
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Thank you very much. I need to advertise this rp. I think 2 or more people would be good enough.


No problem! But yee, it's been just a wee bit quiet, so I decided to take a little initiative.

Two more sounds neat if we can get them. 4-5 does seem to be about the magic number for a Jojo squad.
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No problem! But yee, it's been just a wee bit quiet, so I decided to take a little initiative.

Two more sounds neat if we can get them. 4-5 does seem to be about the magic number for a Jojo squad.


Four would be a good even number. More then that and i would be too overwhelmed.
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