[OOC] Void of the Stars: A sci-Fi Nation Roleplay

[null123]

Yeah, it kinda of stupid how Wilson came in and said "hey this is how it the universe was created". The players shouldn't have that kind of power over the back story of the RP.

[Keyguyperson]

Sorry, no post right now. I am currently infuriated over losing a huge post to a cope/paste accident. Will make sure to post later.

[darkwolf687]

xD

[WilsonTurner]

I never said it was correct. Who ever said what you post must be absolutely true? They could be lying, bluffing, or whatever. That is the SUPREME'S perspective, not the player's, not the GM's. That is who it is according to them, and they believe themselves to be correct, because they were one of the very first.

Plus it would be pretty cool if the universe periodically 'resets,' everything being wiped out when a sentient race grows so big that they end up destabilizing the universe, and then any race a certain greatness, with a single, collective belief in some god or something becomes real in the next universe, where the race that grew big enough has become one collective deity, as well as whatever they believed in, which creates the new races.

And that's also how, sometime in the future of the roleplay, everything could be reset, and you can bring back your races, except there would be bits and pieces of 'artifacts' from the previous universe.

ya know?

But again, I do see why Rogue would be aggravated. It's like whatever you post is exactly true, it has to be. The Equestrians lied, did they not? You lied, did you not? Same situation. Don't accuse me of something, if you're going to do a ridiculous version of it, k?

[null123]

WilsonTurner said
- They claim empty, uninhabited space, which they have practically nothing to do with due to lack of manpower and will.
- They are demigods in that they are more powerful than individuals, not a slightly lesser being to an actual god or goddess
- They don't have the technology to create universes, they just travel between them, and take whatever's unclaimed or easy to steal away.
- I am seeing why Rogue gets extremely aggravated with your grammar/spelling.
- I could give you some tips if you want to better your grammar and keep grammar-Nazis away- And saying that no one else can be as powerful as 3 of some of the older players is kind of unfair.
- The Supremes are not more powerful than the 'Big Three,' since they are very much smaller and could be drowned in your sea of unrealistically large fleets.

You said it your self Wilson, in a battle between one of the Big Three, the NLR, AIF, and Triarian Collective, the Supremes would be drowned in a sea of the ships of one of the three. Combine that with the fact you are fighting on one of the most heavily defended places in Equestrian Space, and that our fighting on there homeworld. There magic is strengthened there due to natural magic energy fields there. The Supremes are going to loose this.

[WilsonTurner]

The Equestrians are in a civil war, which does not just stop when a leader dies. A civil war only comes to a stop when all opposing sides in the conflict give up fighting, whether from winning or not. There are plenty of Equestrians that would not want to stop the ones that say they are here to keep them from killing themselves, and currently, you've just gotten through with a war. You've got Triarians after you, Haches, The sarz-guys, and other people.

You are very, very weak. You will not be able to realistically 'gather a giant fleet' that will obey every word. There will be hesitation, there will be disobedience, and there will be severe losses from having to fight another of the Big Three.

Your unrealistically large fleets can't just be summoned. There are damages, there are malfunctions, there are crew losses, and whenever leaders are fighting, there is confusion and people willing to strike out on their own for their martyred, chosen leader.

You don't have an unrealistically large fleet. You have fleets, yes, but not giant ones that will follow all orders.

[WilsonTurner]

Oh, and they're smarter than you, so they have that big bonus.

[null123]

The Civil War is very one sided. The NLR had 90% support of the population and seized the most valuable Pact assets. It not taking much to fend off the remaining factions.

Lets count the total losses of the war with the Triarians that is now over: Some ships, some men, and some undeveloped land that would have been used for farming

Sazkarjhit is just more, we don't want to be involved with you guys anymore. Not really them fighting me, and even if they did there weaker then the WUE and the CC.

[WilsonTurner]

There is never a civil war if one side has 90% of the support. A civil war is between prominent sides, not one giant side beating the other small side with a warhammer.

You get mad at Rogue for him BSing, and yet you do it all the time.

Supremes cancel out magic the closer they are to it;
Supremes have very large ships;
Supremes can call on help from people that do not like the Equestrians, in favor of a much more agreeable Equestrian reform;
Supremes individually are more powerful;
Supremes are smarter, since you're not doing a great job. The Supremes counteract Equestrian magic, and Equestrians rely on magic for shields. Following them into their new Galactic-Center den would mean your crews falling ill and dead within minutes.

While in terms of brute force, the Supremes aren't more powerful than the Equestrians. In terms of using stuff better, there is a good chance that they are.

[null123]

WilsonTurner said
Supremes cancel out magic the closer they are to it.

No
The Supremes cant interact with pure magical energy. And since magic isn't linked to Faust they can't block at via that either, and since they can't interact with the spirits/souls of the Equestrians then they cant do it like that either.

[WilsonTurner]

If they can't gain help from the other sentient races/players, then they will retrieve relays and defense stations from distant places, and launch them at different Equestrian planets with signatures that show fleets that number in the hundreds, which is large in Supreme terms, manipulate the Seeders to act as distractions, and seed anti-Equestrian attitudes within the AIF, and maybe the Collective.

And again, you've got an exclusive energy source that other people can use at your express permission ONLY, which means you will give and take it away as you feel like it. You making it unstoppable, except to the Triarians at a small scale, would just be plain unfair and OP.

Let me guess: Rogue was the only other person to really challenge you, that's it, isn't it? He would say No, that's not fair, No, that's not realistic, where you would go do whatever, and you would get mad at not having your way.

I am fine with losing a war. I am not fine with you BSing everything. A civil war is with 2 very prominent sides; a nation under terrorism is when there is a small group that attacks other places.

[WilsonTurner]

And Triarians are psions, are they not? They use their ability to manipulate energy to do all that fancy stuff, and they can mess up Equestrian magic by manipulating that energy, forcing it to a different form.

The Supremes are very powerful in such an area, though they don't use it as often. They are Triarians on steriods, with reproduction issues.

[hacher5]

Like my own civil war, which really did begin from a sort of terrorism/rebellion. It launched a spring of rebellions across the rest of the colonies, which survived mostly from outside support (like the Americans). There should have been infighting, in some way. I don't care if you just kill all of them (which would be hard) or just mention it, but still. No moral code you have says to respect the new leaders, at least you haven't told that anyways.

[null123]

Actually the Triarians's magic neutralizes a wide variety of spells. The only exception is megaspells and Arcane Magic.

And the Supremes would only be able to do that if a Non-Arcane Branch spell was cast. They can't touch pure magical energy, and there shields are effectively pure magical energy.

[WilsonTurner]

It's because he does what Rogue does, and what he so hates. He makes it up as he goes, and changes it whenever it benefits him. Drama? Okay, Princesses attacking each other. Fighting? Okay, civil war and declaration of war on the Triarians. Someone else attacks? Fleets are generally undamaged, no one is really injured, everyone is rallied behind the remaining leader after she killed the other 3 leaders and no one cares about that bit, no one is divided, everyone is under the remaining leader's banner, no one is confused, absolutely obedience reigns.

I don't see how that works. Civil war means that there is no single accepted leader, people are fighting for their dead, chosen leaders, there is no real organization, or any of that. And yet you summon everyone in moments, without any problems, whatsoever.

[null123]

Equestrians are a very bipolar species.

[WilsonTurner]

And then there's the BS again.

[WilsonTurner]

And there is a reason why no one uses tesla coils for anything important. There are a great deal of more efficient, accurate, powerful, durable, and storable types that are better.

[null123]

And that was actually sarcasm, this does not allow me to different font so no comic sans.

Also before you say that it ended because the Supremes attacked it was actually coming to a very quick end before they did. And not everyone is under one government again. Equestrians like Unity and Harmony, and *shock* can be logical sometimes. It made sense for the WUE to join the NLR, as while they were not exactly the same they systems were quite similiar.

[Sukui]

Seeing how the Makudan fell into shit and will soon screw themselves over with a extremely illegal bioweapon leaving the Immortal Caliber's crew and its escorts the sole survivor of the Kaiyouan race, i might make a new empire soon.

If everything goes as planned, the survivors shall be given to whoever gets it first.