mdk said
America here. The natives didn't really benefit much. But for the rest of us, awesome.
The Natives would've ended up having it much better if not for the Yankee scum fighting against His Majesty's glorious empire.
mdk said
America here. The natives didn't really benefit much. But for the rest of us, awesome.
mdk said
America here. The natives didn't really benefit much. But for the rest of us, awesome.
The Nexerus said
The Natives would've ended up having it much better if not for the Yankee scum fighting against His Majesty's glorious empire.
Jannah said
It looks like somebody's blog, but it looks like it's still pretty well backed up with other sources.
The Nexerus said
I'm sorry, but that blog post is fucking laughable. They basically just tacked every death of an Indian during the British Raj onto a tally and then said, "Ya, Britain did all of that". Do you expect the British to make Indians immortal?
Pepperm1nts said either way, the natives would've been robbed of their land and killed.
gen·o·cide
ˈjenəˌsīd/Submit
noun
1.
the deliberate killing of a large group of people, esp. those of a particular ethnic group or nation.
Jannah said
Natives were genocided pretty badly too. I was reading recently that rewards were actually granted for their murder. I don't know how accurate that is, but given the circumstances it doesn't seem far-fetched at all. Also, I'm not solely blaming America here. Keep that in mind. Here in Canada similar shit occurred.
Jannah said
Hey, people use that same logic when trying to inflate any death toll. I realize the numbers in that blog are probably inflated, but to deny colonialism was responsible for genocide is no different from Holocaust denial.
The Nexerus said
That simply didn't happen. The worst the British did to Natives during peace time was forcibly relocate them to allow for settlement.Also, I think Jannah needs to be educated as to the definition of the word 'genocide'.
Jannah said
Which is exactly what happened. I know what the word genocide means. I'm not an idiot. Don't patronize me.
The Nexerus said
Natives were not systematically killed. The vast majority of Native death as a result of the Columbian Exchange occurred inadvertently via the spread of disease. What's more, it's impossible to get even a rough estimate of how many people died. Native societies weren't known for their intricate bureaucratic censuses.
The Nexerus said
The worst the British did to Natives during peace time was forcibly relocate them to allow for settlement
Jannah said
Yea, deliberate spread of disease. That is genocide.
Jannah said
Yea, deliberate spread of disease. That is genocide.
Pepperm1nts said
And how do you think that was done?
mdk said
The Nexerus said
Usually voluntarily, via treaty.
Pepperm1nts said
But not always.And that's all I said, before you disputed it. The English killed natives. It did happen.