Your Political Ideology

[Vortex]

Yeah I know that much about the states. Luckily in Australia there are still two public broadcasters who want to educate the masses and not just make money. Unfortunately the newly elected Government wants to cut funding to these broadcasters so they can create a fully fledged free market and don't have to worry about the "pesky left" while doing it.

[The Nexerus]

Vortex said
So what if it happens frequently? It still deserves attention so we can help fix it. Also the news job is to report what is important and if that means less viewers than so be it.

That's not how it works. The only responsibility of a business is to generate a profit within legal boundaries.

[Vortex]

Let me guess your a capitalist aren't you? But I have to disagree with you the role of the media is to inform (and hopefully educate while doing so) the people.

[The Nexerus]

Vortex said
Let me guess your a capitalist aren't you?

No kidding?

Even if I were a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Stalinist-Anarchist-Feminist-Robotocratic Green, my view of the responsibility of a business wouldn't change. The only thing that would be altered is my perception of whether or not business is good or bad for society.

Being for or against gun rights doesn't change the definition of the word 'gun'.

Vortex said But I have to disagree with you the role of the media is to inform (and hopefully educate while doing so) the people.

The role of the media is to show the people what they want to see. If they want to be informed and educated, the media will show them information and educate them. If news channels are showing garbage, that's as a consequence of their viewers wanting to see garbage.

[Vortex]

That's your opinion but I myself am a Marxist-Leninist (among other things as I stated at the start of this thread) and I believe that the role of the media is to inform the masses (which I assume you have picked up on by now)

It's called news for a reason. It's supposed to show the people about affairs in their country and the world not entertain them if they want to rot their brain then they can but don't let that become news. There needs to be a clear boundary between news and entertainment.

[The Nexerus]

Vortex said There needs to be a clear boundary between news and entertainment.

I completely agree. I'm only saying that the blame doesn't fall on the broadcasters.

Vortex said
That's your opinion but I myself am a Marxist-Leninist (among other things as I stated at the start of this thread) and I believe that the role of the media is to inform the masses (which I assume you have picked up on by now)

No, it's not my opinion, it's an objective fact that I'm expressing to you. The goal of a business is to generate capital. That's how businesses work.

[Vortex]

The Nexerus said
No, it's not my opinion, it's an objective fact that I'm expressing to you. The goal of a business is to generate capital. That's how businesses work.

That may be so but the role of news is to inform not make capital for the shareholders. The people and their education of the world comes before profit.

[The Nexerus]

Vortex said
That may be so but the role of news is to inform not make capital for the shareholders. The people and their education of the world comes before profit.

So all you're saying is that you don't want broadcasters to be businesses.

[Vortex]

I don't care if they are a business or not I'm just saying that the news comes before profit and if that means they are not a business then so be it.

[The Nexerus]

Vortex said
I don't care if they are a business or not I'm just saying that the news comes before profit and if that means they are not a business then so be it.

For the most part, broadcasters do deliver the news more than adequately. That's why people continue to watch.

If news stations reported on every murder of a High School age teenager in the United States, they'd be reporting on literally nothing but murders. It's not as if this High School has been neglected by the media, either. Oprah Winfrey herself did a story on the school just a year or so ago.

[Vortex]

Heh I think people continue to watch because they are "entertained", I don't know much about American media but from what I have seen it looks pretty lousy to me

Like i said the news needs to report on things that are important, not things like "DEAR GOD THE BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY HAD A CHILD!!!", and I don't know about you but I believe murders are fairly important. Also just because a shooting happens in a white middle class area that does not mean that it is more important than a school that "has shootings often"

[The Nexerus]

Vortex said
Heh I think people continue to watch because they are "entertained", I don't know much about American media but from what I have seen it looks pretty lousy to me

"I don't know anything about it, but I hate it".

[Vortex]

No, trust me I know about American media, I'm not saying I know a lot but we do get some American News in Australia, I just don't watch it often because like I said its pretty lousy, except for the PBS news hour, that's pretty decent

[Jannah]

Vortex said
I don't care if they are a business or not I'm just saying that the news comes before profit and if that means they are not a business then so be it.

My main issue with private news broadcasters is that more often than not their coverage is heavily biased, usually to the right. However, of course, one could make the same argument for any state owned media. It's really hard to truly report on anything objectively. With that said, I'm skeptical about almost all major news stations, even Non-american ones such as Al-Jazeera, RT, and our very own CBC here in Canada. I suppose it really all comes down to finding the least biased sources and things like Fox and MSNBC are not among them.

[Vortex]

Agreed but luckily the ABC and SBS are not biased despite what the right says. And to be honest I do have a problem with it being owned by business but I have come to realise a communist revolution is not going to happen any time soon so I tend to make my beliefs more moderate, or at least on the surface.

[The Nexerus]

Every media source has some sort of a bias. How unbiased you perceive a news source as being depends on how biased it is towards your own stances.

[Catlord]

I am a NeoRihno.

[The Nexerus]

Catlord said
I am a NeoRihno.

That would be the political demographic for which I have the least amount of respect. At least non voters can argue apathy.

[Catlord]

I believe that we should build taller schools for a higher education.
That we should change Canada's currency to bubblegum so it can be inflated and deflated at will.
Make illiteracy an official language in order to create literacy rates of 100%. After all, illiteracy is my first language.
What is wrong with this??

If you are not going to vote, you might as well vote for the Rhinos.

[Jannah]

Vortex said
Agreed but luckily the ABC and SBS are not biased despite what the right says. And to be honest I do have a problem with it being owned by business but I have come to realise a communist revolution is not going to happen any time soon so I tend to make my beliefs more moderate, or at least on the surface.

I try to appear more moderate for the same reasons, but it's hard, especially considering how much my family and I have been screwed over by the system. It's really quite a sensitive issue for me though so it's not something I feel like discussing publicly for fear of it turning into a debate. It's not an issue I can compromise on so I think it's better for everybody if it doesn't come up at all.