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Yes. There has to be a reason, and a time they were taught something. They aren't born with these techniques, and who is teaching a Genin an assassination technique? Why would he be taught these if he can hardly use them, he's obviously not ready for them. I just think you don't give good enough reasons for these things.


....His family '_'

How would you know you're not ready for something if you don't train for it? It's not like they automatically knew he wasn't ready, he trained hard and that's how he found out about his low amount of chakra, same with his family (I'm pretty sure that's a thing to already know though, Rock Lee for example. No one knew he would have zero talent in Ninjutsu when he was born, he trained and therefore found out and still tried going for it) Still doesn't mean you have to stop training to get stronger. But like I said, I'll remake his form, so I don't even know why we're still speaking on it. Agreed to drop it until I'm done editing? O.o
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Agreed to drop it until I'm done editing? O.o


Kinda shitty you just try to get the last word, but I guess.
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Aaaand I posted!

Also, I don't see anything wrong with a Genin knowing an assassination technique.
Though the character is listed as a A-B rank ninja. That isn't B rank, technically speaking. B-Rank is B-Rank. A-Rank techniques are what Hokage, Sannin, and very powerful Jounin can cast. A Genin, especially a non-Jinchuriki, shouldn't ordinarily be capable of A-Rank techniques. Especially looking back to the beginning of the series. Unless, like what Ekirei is saying, you were specifically taught them over a period of time in your childhood. But, again, even then that really isn't a Genin level ninja though.

Also, lol, the Raikage's Lariat isn't a S-Rank technique.
What I would think would be better is if your character learned some of your more advanced techniques in the future if they didn't have some spectacular teacher that taught them the techniques in the past, Expllo.

What a lot of people seem to be doing in this Rp is really beefing up their Genin characters. Really not necessary at all. Don't absolutely have to start out with so many techniques as a Genin.
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Kinda shitty you just try to get the last word, but I guess.


I wasn't trying to? Just thought it was better if we both dropped it when I said I'd re-make my character. You're free to say whatever you'd like.
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Durnehviir said What a lot of people seem to be doing in this Rp is really beefing up their Genin characters. Really not necessary at all. Don't absolutely have to start out with so many techniques as a Genin.


Meh for my character it's more a case of what she will learn or is about to/very close to, I probably should have specified that but ah well. Plus, who said these characters were good at said techniques?
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Meh for my character it's more a case of what she will learn or is about to/very close to, I probably should have specified that but ah well. Plus, who said these characters were good at said techniques?

Well, you didn't specify that your character was not good with the techniques and seeing as your character can cast many different types of air style and earth style ninjutsu, it's fair to assume she is not inefficient with them. Saying "what if" doesn't really change the situation any. She's also classified as B-Rank. B-Rank: "It is preceded by C-rank and followed by A-rank. It is typically used when classifying techniques intended for ninja of the jōnin or chūnin level." Thus, that automatically tells me that she is skilled enough of a ninja to properly cast her ninjustu no problem.

I specified that my character, specifically, was not good with his techniques to clarify that fact, Insomina. No "what ifs" or "maybes" or "could bes". If your character is bad with a certain technique, it should be specified rather than just something that appears out of convenience to make your character more balanced the moment is is brought up. lol Though I'm not pointing fingers or anything. It make sense to me that someone with as much chakra as the 9 tails could definitely do what your character can and more.
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Aaaand I posted!Also, I don't see anything wrong with a Genin knowing an assassination technique. Though the character is listed as a A-B rank ninja. That isn't B rank, technically speaking. B-Rank is B-Rank. A-Rank techniques are what Hokage, Sannin, and very powerful Jounin can cast. A Genin, especially a non-Jinchuriki, shouldn't ordinarily be capable of A-Rank techniques. Especially looking back to the beginning of the series. Unless, like what Ekirei is saying, you were specifically taught them over a period of time in your childhood. But, again, even then that really isn't a Genin level ninja though. Also, lol, the Raikage's Lariat isn't a S-Rank technique. What I would think would be better is if your character some of your more advanced techniques in the future if they didn't have some spectacular teacher that taught them the techniques in the past, Expllo. What a lot of people seem to be doing in this Rp is really beefing up their Genin characters. Really not necessary at all. Don't absolutely have to start out with so many techniques as a Genin.


That is true, but remember that a B-Rank is still able to preform A-Rank jutsu, even if it's a little. Sasuke using Chidori, Konohamaru using Rasengan (Konohamaru being a genin), etc. In which most of my character's Jutsu being C rank, two being A rank, and the rest being B rank. Just saying, overall, I stuck to his rank. And him being trained by his family, that's what got him to his rank. But yeah, won't try to beef him up too much (Just wanted to say that one bit)....But is this starting off with them just meeting their Sensei, or are they heading up towards the Chuunin exams? Because if towards the Chuunin exams, it is possible that characters can be a bit stronger due to missions and such. That going for anyone.
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Posted. And Tray and Hiro are lucky because I just woke up from my nap. :3
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Konohamaru could barely cast the Rasengan though.
Sasuke was taught Chidori by a Hokage-level ninja, Kakashi. Not only that, Sasuke has the Sharingan. He can automatically learn ninjutsu as an Uchiha.

As for how long they've been out of the academy I am not sure. There's also the fact that your character is a little older than the rest of the characters.
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Still did it though, and defeated a Pein clone. Not many Genin could do that, and he did it faster than Naruto could if I believe....But at the same time, Naruto did have five other clones on him so.

I thought Kakashi was just Anbu-level? Could be Hokage level though, and that's true. Uchiha are OP v.v but even still, he did have to train for it hence that scene of him and Kakashi at the rocky area where Gaara comes out of nowhere and just stares O.o

Hm, guess that should be asked when Shadow gets back....And that's kinda what I was going for. He was older, had more training, therefore knew a few more things *Shrug* doesn't matter now though.
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Kakashi was almost Hokage a few times after the whole Danzo thing.

And no. Konohamaru's incomplete Rasengan isn't really a good comparison as he, a Genin, couldn't completely use a higher level technique. I mean, using that, it should be proof that Genin typically can't cast high level techniques like that without years of training (as that was 2 years later and he made that small Rasengan). As for defeating a Pain clone, I mean, as a Genin Naruto beat loads of high level Ninja in the series. Just takes a little spam.

Also, again, Sasuke has the Sharingan. He has the potential to learn just about any technique that he's elementally compatible with. Sasuke is also considered a genius too. Is your character an exceptional genius?
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Sasuke was a deuteragonist; if he wasn't so important, he wouldn't have been made so strong. And Konohamaru is important to the plot.

You knowing the Chidori isn't necessary to the plot, like Konohamaru knowing Rasengan. Your character can be just fine without it. Either put in the work, or change it
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Kakashi was almost Hokage a few times after the whole Danzo thing. And no. Konohamaru's incomplete Rasengan isn't really a good comparison as he, a Genin, couldn't completely use a higher level technique. I mean, using that, it should be proof that Genin typically can't cast high level techniques like that without years of training (as that was 2 years later and he made that small Rasengan). As for defeating a Pain clone, I mean, as a Genin Naruto beat loads of high level Ninja in the series. Just takes a little spam. Also, again, Sasuke has the Sharingan. He has the potential to learn just about any technique that he's elementally compatible with. Sasuke is also considered a genius too. Is your character an exceptional genius?


But Danzo came way after the Kakashi teaching Sasuke chidori thing O.o

Yeah, but none of those enemies could compare to Pein. Pein by far, was probably the strongest Naruto villain aside from Madara and 'Tobi'.

Yeah, he does have the Sharingan. But was it ever stated that he used that to help him learn? I just always thought he physically trained for it, been about a year or two since I've watched part 1 though. And no, no he isn't owo
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Look bro. We are not saying you cannot have this power. We are saying you did not put enough work into your app for this power. Either put more effort in, or change your stuff.
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Sasuke was a deuteragonist; if he wasn't so important, he wouldn't have been made so strong. And Konohamaru is important to the plot. You knowing the Chidori isn't necessary to the plot, like Konohamaru knowing Rasengan. Your character can be just fine without it. Either put in the work, or change it


And if Naruto wasn't the main character, he wouldn't be so strong. Your point being...??

Then by that logic, as true as it may be, any character knowing any moves isn't necessary to the plot....Your point being...??
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Look bro. We are not saying you cannot have this power. We are saying you did not put enough work into your app for this power. Either put more effort in, or change your stuff.


I'm not arguing against that, just simply replying to what's being said to me. As I said, I'm remaking my form.
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Seriously. We are done talking about this. Either fix your character (adding more work OR removing some shit), or find a new roleplay. We want you here, but we don't need you here.
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Anyway, I want Nero to reappear so I can ask Nero stuff.

Also the above is strictly his own opinion. Lol.
I'm definitely not chasing anyway away. I was just arguing for the sake of arguing. Didn't go that far.
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....Which is overall what I've been saying I was doing for the past 20 minutes or so. I just have been replying to stuff you guys have been saying to me, that's all, no need to get mad dude.
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