[OOC] Daemon Web- NMV

[MelonHead]

LeeRoy said
They're on his shoulders, the rear naked choke hold has you put your underarm on the person's shoulder, and they're not just small flat rings. They're hovering slightly above his skin. As well as the five on his hands, which are being used to grab at Fury's arm.I contemplated having Darligrov's energy be Kanitah's energy as well, burning anyone who absorbed it, but I didn't want to seem like I was making it solely to prevent Fury from sucking his energy.

I was under the impression that Kanitah was abnormally well built, meaning he would have shoulders wide enough that it wouldn't really do much. It doesn't matter much anyway, I don't intend to have the rings cause Fury all that much damage, that's what his energy shielding is for.

[LeeRoy]

I think somewhere in his CS I mentioned Superdense muscle. He's like, almost exactly the same build as Wolverine. Same height too.
Bit chubby around the waist though.

[MelonHead]

Eh, fair enough. I thought as it was worth mentioning that he was almost silly looking he was so muscular it was more like a body builder.

[MelonHead]

Btw, you can see a rough scale of how much energy your character will lose every second in Fury's CS.

Judging that we're pretty much the same tier now, your character will lose roughly 5% of his -total- energy every second of sustained contact.

[LeeRoy]

Posted.

[MelonHead]

To clarify, my character is making it impossible for you to fit your hand in the gap between neck and arm. (which is pretty nigh on impossible regardless, which is why the rear naked choke is so dangerous when it's actually applied.)

If your character is still capable of such feats of strength with barely his fingers I'm going to have to call ballshit I'm afraid.

[LeeRoy]

That is why in the previous turn he dropped himself, that should have released the lock entirely.


However it did not, somehow, so Kanitah's hand slipped underneath Fury's arm. Somehow.

Now, mind you, the rings amplify all force not just strikes. However, for only an instance. It is not a sustained thing.

[MelonHead]

Dropping forwards only works particularly well if you catch someone not particularly professional off guard.

It -was- working, but Fury recovered by jumping into Unbridled Fury before it could work properly, and in my most recent post Fury pulled back instead, instigating the final stages of the choke (and also forcing your hands out, leaving maybe enough room for fingers.)

I know this is possible, because my friend tried the choke on me and I escaped easily by dropping forward, when I did it to him I maintained the choke (because I'm significantly stronger.)

[LeeRoy]

Well, alright, but note two things as I write my next post.

A: I remember that Fury's unbridled builds up to 100 tons. But it starts at 50 tons. That knee strike of yours is exaggerated.
B: Kanitah's bones and musculature are primarily metal at the moment, so breaking his neck isn't going to happen. Not that easily.

[MelonHead]

LeeRoy said
Well, alright, but note two things as I write my next post.A: I remember that Fury's unbridled builds up to 100 tons. But it starts at 50 tons. That knee strike of yours is exaggerated.B: Kanitah's bones and musculature are primarily metal at the moment, so breaking his neck isn't going to happen. Not that easily.

B: Just an attempt.
A: Fury can increase his strength at any rate I desire, it just multiplies the cost proportionally. (Fury can only maintain 100 tonnes of strength for one minute exactly, which I referred to the moment he changed. His very start strength is 50 tonnes though, I accept.)

You also have to remember, though it's not exactly an ideal situation, Fury is still at his optimum condition right now, draining energy directly from an opponent to fuel all his fancy shit.

[LeeRoy]

A third thing to note.

It's two turns of attack focused on your forearm uninterrupted.

[MelonHead]

LeeRoy said
A third thing to note.It's two turns of attack focused on your forearm uninterrupted.

Actually I interrupted your second.

And by the same logic your character now has a broken neck, so I wouldn't press it.

[LeeRoy]

Nope, I interrupted the neck snap with my hand the first turn of you grabbing ahold of his neck.

LeeRoy said
jamming his fingers between Fury's arm and his throat

And the second turn with the attempt to begin ripping off his arm.

[LeeRoy]

And you wholly disregarded my push, which means you did not defend against it.

MelonHead said
Obviously the Void couldn’t care less, but Fury had to admire how lucid his opponent was when he made another grab for his arm. Regardless, the Fireen simply pulled with his right arm (the one under his opponent’s neck) yanking back as hard as he physically could to snap the neck outright and preventing his fingers from gaining any purchase.

If I still have the ability to continue the attack, and with further force applied to it. It carries. Which Kanitah still had the ability to do so. Including your own speed from the upwards flight, and Kanitah's weight. Everything spells that this is going negatively for Fury.

[MelonHead]

No, you can't make the attack but your grip (and your push) was thwarted by Fury using his obviously superior strength to pull your character back.

Go ask someone to do this choke on you and come back to me, I'm not sure you understand the principles.

[MelonHead]

Speaking of disregarding attacks, your character's arm was broken like two posts ago, but I didn't pursue it.

[MelonHead]

You also have to remember Fury is significantly taller than Kanitah, which is just increasing his advantage.

[MelonHead]

Also, what you've essentially done is broken the rules with your character's rings now.

I was only under the impression that they were able to multiply a physical impact, your character could essentially lift way over the weight limit if they work how you're now suggesting they do.

[MelonHead]

And finally, your character's neck now has to break in that post, regardless of whatever else you've intended to do my character's lock on his neck has been carried out for two posts, so your character is now dead. (Unless he can survive a broken neck, I suppose.)

I was more than willing to disregard that rule, but as you want to enforce it, GG I guess.

[LeeRoy]

Kanitah's strength, at that point in time, was greater than Fury's. When he slipped his fingers up underneath Fury's arm he moved his hand out of Fury's grip to slip both hands underneath. While that was a bit of an oversight, it's not one that should be noted as it's easily written off with logic. Mind you, the rear choke hold takes use of both hands, so using one hand to pin his arm behind his back would be impossible and still maintaining the same kind of hold.

And at that point in time Kanitah was 3x Fury's physical strength, so Kanitah removing his hand from the grip isn't unrealistic. Again, however, it is an oversight.

Now, at that point in time, I didn't defend against it but you neglected to take advantage of it. You could have very easily broken my arm, and due to the oversight I wouldn't have been able to stop it. But you didn't take advantage of it. Now, with me tearing your arm out of its socket.

Fury's strength is superior, correct, but Kanitah's force is vastly superior. With his own weight, the multiplication of his own force, and the focus on your arm.

My neck hasn't been attacked because my hand has been pushing against your arm this entire time.