[OOC] Sanctuary

[The Red Zephyr]

You should pm your skype name to me Goat. I primarily use skype for communication too.

And Kish, don't look at me: Weston's dying in an alley, so he obviously fucked up somewhere. And With Godfather's, Lost's, and Anriu's characters, they don't seem perfect, just calculating. Mathias is a mob boss guy looking out for his own, Samuel is... a cunning dude that has partial amnesia (?), and Ik is the puppeteer.

Speaking of Ik, I'm rather interested in his rise to power and how exactly it happened. He's only 21 and has as many connections and resources as Mathias, if not more.

[The Red Zephyr]

Sage said
Alright, Sage Mode activate:I hate to call meta game since it was a collab, but I wanna talk about preserving the character IC and leaving OOC knowledge out of it. My first concern is knowing about one another and reacting to one another's presences. When I judge how appropriately/how good you guys roleplay, I do it based on character sheets. So far, Iktomi (excluding kage powers) should be the most scary, badass mothahfuckah out there, since I approved it. The only other characters that I would expect to meet him like that and not at least feel NERVOUS let alone SCARED are Ariela (cuz she a freak), Victor Esteves (cuz he's too boss), Ishigo (cuz batman), and that's probably it. Even Arianna was nervous when she met this fucker - and he's like her childhood friend. It's kinda like the worst flavor of metagaming: your character is a total badass, fearless, super clever mahfuckah that isn't afraid to fight JUST BECAUSE YOU KNOW ITS JUST A ROLEPLAY. Secondly, I'm going to assume Lost let you guys "know about" his character. If he didn't, then DON'T do that. Just making this clear, I'm not accusing. Reading that collab made me remember that I forgot to make this point before. Basically, I accepted Iktomi's CS and it included how he was a super secret underground mahfuckah. BY READING HIS CS IN REAL LIFE, YOUR IC CHARACTER DOESN'T SUDDENLY ABOUT IKTOMI. A good way to go about this would he either ask Lost (which I'm assuming is what happened since it was a collab) or PM a GM to review CS's and determine if yor character's knowledge would be plausible. Nah mean? Lastly Character interactions should be things BOTH players agree on. If Joe doesn't agree to Bob suddenly exploding everything and killing his grabdma's dog, then you know what Joe does? He contacts a GM! He describes the situation and the GM will settle it out. I want to enforce this now because eventually... Believe it or not...Niggas gon die. And believe it or not... It might be a player trying to kill another player! So either agree on it, PM a GM, or I turn this into a table top roleplay with stats and shit.And remember: NONE OF YOUR CHARACTERS ARE PERFECT EXCEPT FOR FRUITSTAND. ROLEPLAY FLAWS TOO! CHARACTERS GET SCARED, MAKE MISTAKES, etc.

So regarding this, I think the best solution is to not rely on CSs at all. When you write, make sure you flesh things out enough to where people don't HAVE to read your CS to get everything. If you're interacting with another player ask them for information about the character instead of the CS. I know a big thing you point out in the OP is "USE CSs" Kish, but reliance on them seems to be a problem.

Also, all this stuff you're ranting about is presumably in a collab... that Lost was part of. I doubt he'd let people know things about Ik he didn't want them to if he was part of the the collab.

Ah Fruitstand, you will be remembered...

[Sage]

The Red Zephyr said
So regarding this, I think the best solution is to not rely on CSs at all. When you write, make sure you flesh things out enough to where people don't HAVE to read your CS to get everything. If you're interacting with another player ask them for information about the character instead of the CS. I know a big thing you point out in the OP is "USE CSs" Kish, but reliance on them seems to be a problem.Also, all this stuff you're ranting about is presumably in a collab... that Lost was part of. I doubt he'd let people know things about Ik he didn't want them to if he was part of the the collab.Ah Fruitstand, you will be remembered...

I mean I'm speaking from previous complaints. And the point is you REFER TO THE CS for whether or not your shit makes sense. Like your point on how Iktomi is 21 with all these connections. I'm also talking about people knowing about CS's. If you don't know something about a character or why they're doing something, then why should your character? Unless it's something you should definitely know and wouldn't make sense otherwise.

EDIT: Zeph I only wanted to refer to CS's to talk about how plausible actions were relating to that characters abilities and history.

[AnriuSB]

So, I'll explains Sam's situation..

He has been in a coma, in the forest, for this entire year. He survived by taking spirit out of the Life strings passively. Not enough to directly effect an individual, because he was taking a small amount from many strings, but enough to keep him alive. His kage warded his body and mind from decay during this time.

That is all I can tell you for now because Sammy boy has some inner plot to go through before you know the rest.

He has amnesia, however whenever he needs a specific memory, it returns to him. (will reveal why with time)

Back in the day he was an information broker who ran a vast information empire. He was one of the best. Mathias's personal friend and partner. (Sam doesn't feel the friendship connection emotionally anymore due to the amnesia) He is also schizophrenic, highly paranoid, and has the biggest ego since Charley Sheen. He has control issues, and does not deal with disrespect well. Basically me and Lost decided it believable for him to have researched into Ik, enough so that he has some very interesting information about him (none of which he remembers, except the one I mentioned).

Ik rose to power really fast, people wanted to know how, so Sam found out. Knowing things was good for business.

I am using this strategy for his past because it lets me uncover his life slowly, and sync it up with his changes as a character. It is one of the reasons I explained nothing about him in the prologue other than he likes tea and fine wine.

[Lost in my Mind]

Zephy I will be available for ourccollab after play practice tonight, which will be right around 6 hopefully. As for Iktomi's rise, if you guys truly wish to know I'll inform you how it came about.

[AnriuSB]

I think it best if you revieled it IC, in your own time.

[The Red Zephyr]

Okay, so there were legitimate complaints about this stuff? Okay, cuz I thought you were going Sage mode over observations alone. Did you PM/talk to the people being complained about to make sure they know the Sage Mode is directed toward them? If they're oblivious, making general statements is sorta pointless. If you did, then awesome GMing bro. I'm glad you're being proactive and stuff.

AnriuSB said
I think it best if you revieled it IC, in your own time.

And this.

[AnriuSB]

And cats, never forget the cats.

Never

http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/26500000/Neko-neko-26581904-452-640.jpg

[AnriuSB]

So I just read the first paraghraph of my post, all I can picture now is Ariela goin 'round, and stabbing buildings with a machete xD.

[The Red Zephyr]

AnriuSB said
So, I'll explains Sam's situation..He has been in a coma, in the forest, for this entire year. He survived by taking spirit out of the Life strings passively. Not enough to directly effect an individual, because he was taking a small amount from many strings, but enough to keep him alive. His kage warded his body and mind from decay during this time.That is all I can tell you for now because Sammy boy has some inner plot to go through before you know the rest.He has amnesia, however whenever he needs a specific memory, it returns to him. (will reveal why with time)Back in the day he was an information broker who ran a vast information empire. He was one of the best. Mathias's personal friend and partner. (Sam doesn't feel the friendship connection emotionally anymore due to the amnesia) He is also schizophrenic, highly paranoid, and has the biggest ego since Charley Sheen. He has control issues, and does not deal with disrespect well. Basically me and Lost decided it believable for him to have researched into Ik, enough so that he has some very interesting information about him (none of which he remembers, except the one I mentioned).Ik rose to power really fast, people wanted to know how, so Sam found out. Knowing things was good for business.I am using this strategy for his past because it lets me uncover his life slowly, and sync it up with his changes as a character. It is one of the reasons I explained nothing about him in the prologue other than he likes tea and fine wine.

See, and that's sorta what I meant by not relying on CSs. If I can't gather enough information to understand the character adequately through IC, then there's not enough information given IC. This isn't really a complaint , since I'm pretty sure you're trying to gradually introduce information through IC. However, it's a good example of my point since you had to outright explain him OOC.

[AnriuSB]

The Red Zephyr said
See, and that's sorta what I meant by not relying on CSs. If I can't gather enough information to understand the character adequately through IC, then there's not enough information given IC. This isn't a complaint , since I'm pretty sure you're trying to gradually introduce information through IC. However, it's a good example of my point since you had to outright explain him OOC.

Well, I only explained because you proffessed confusion asked, I hadn't quite finished introducing it yet xD.

But I do get what you are saying,

[Fat Boy Kyle]

Nice posts everyone :)

Just a warning: my next post will contain a flashback within a flashback. It'll probably be a bit difficult to differentiate due to the limited QQCode.

[The Red Zephyr]

Skai, quickly! Find some sort of 'double flashback' meme or gif!

[Skai]

The Red Zephyr said
Absolutely loved to collabs guys. Very well-written for the most part, and kept me enthralled the entire time. I could see the mental chess pieces moving across the board with each part of each conversation. You guys set up quite a bit of awesomeness with all the alliances and connections. Making Arianna resemble Sam's sister added an interesting twist too.

GASP. Thanks, Zeph!

[Skai]

EDIT: I know she's looking into the future, but imagine her seeing the past.

[The Red Zephyr]

The Red Zephyr said
Skai, quickly! Find some sort of 'double flashback' meme or gif!

Skai you fail me

[AnriuSB]

ZEPH!

DO NOT LOSE HOPE!

YOU ARE THE CHOSEN ONE!

THE ONE TO POST THE MEME!

THE ONE MEME TO RULE THEM ALL!

ONLY YOU CAN DO IT!

[Skai]

Jeez, you guys cant appreciate humor.

[The Red Zephyr]

*wait for build up*

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The best I could manage

[Fat Boy Kyle]

The Red Zephyr said
*wait for build up*----

So much win.