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TheEvanCat said
I don't know if you'd even need two million people unless you had a bazillion research labs with enough employees as there are Walmarts. It'd probably be even lower than that because of automation advances.A company doesn't want more employees: that's more money you have to pay, especially for researchers.


Yeah, good point about the automation too. I'll adjust again.
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The majority of APIRCA personnel are guards, and that's because having automated weapons systems is more expensive to maintain and produce. If a bunch of people wanted to buy them, though, then guards would probably be laid off [or shipped elsewhere] and replaced with new, efficient systems. More demand = more use in APIRCA.
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Ohhh, just a month has passed? That actually suits me very well, it means I haven't lost much. So, if you could tell me approximately the events that happened until now. I would really appreciate that. It will assist me in making a much less flawed app in my next attempt.
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So, what's the state of Korea? Is it unified or ruled over by something else? Or would I be able to make an app for South Korea?
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So, what's the state of Korea? Is it unified or ruled over by something else? Or would I be able to make an app for South Korea?


South Korea I think is protected by the US.

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Ohhh, just a month has passed? That actually suits me very well, it means I haven't lost much. So, if you could tell me approximately the events that happened until now. I would really appreciate that. It will assist me in making a much less flawed app in my next attempt.


Why not read the thread? It's not even a page and a half. You could catch up in an afternoon.
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So, what's the state of Korea? Is it unified or ruled over by something else? Or would I be able to make an app for South Korea?


South Korea was after the US pulled out of WW3 one of the places they protected/supplied. Mainly because they wanted to keep some influence in Asia.
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And have 5,000 words.
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Also because it seems like a good idea for this type of RP
5 pages = 1 month.
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I always liked four pages to a month, just because a page equals a week, na'wa'm'say'n'?
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That sounds nice and round.
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Agreed, it fits with the pace.
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Organization might work better...
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Pfft, Afghanistan's not getting stable anytime soon. As soon as the US leaves, it'll be even more of a shithole again as the warlords start to kill each other without foreign interference. Afghanistan's been the same way for thousands of years and thirty isn't going to change any. They're not going to be nearly stable enough for this.

ISAF is pushing a stable, Kabul government. Afghanistan does not want a Kabul government. Afghanistan will reject it like a body rejects foreign implants and do what it's always done. Plus, the military isn't going to be on par with what you envision. It's 2014 and a lot of their officers can't even read and write, for example.
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Things can change, especially seeing how in the 20th century Afganistan did have some periods of stability as is. Maybe the Talibans takes over and or perhaps the NFA gets lucky and manages to secure the east parts enough. Haven't really 100% decided since in not sure if China, Iran or some other country out there would get involved or not. On one hand if China really can't hold Tibet, I don't think they'd bother with Afganistan beyond some trading. On the other hand Iran thinking their hot stuff in the Middle East may start mucking around in afganland. They're mucking around in Iraq today as we speak.

Overall I want afghan children working in underground mines and one underground city to be all cool since the Kushans had a underground city too.
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Things can change, but we've been trying to change them for years. Afghanistan: 1979-1989. The USSR tried to do the same thing we did. They failed. Things got worse. 2001-2014: we didn't fuck it up as badly as the Sovs but we're not on the road that you say Afghanistan is. It takes more than 25 years to change a nation from what it is now to what you say it is. It's downright silly. America took about a hundred years from determining that black people were actual people to actually letting them vote. This was a hundred years and a far cry from rebuilding a nation's political culture from the ground up, from literally a loosely organized formation of tribes (hell, the current tribal assembly can't agree on anything at all) to a functioning nation. At this point, the pysche for a lot of them is "That dude over the next hill speaks Dari. We speak Pashto. He is the enemy. We must kill him and take his things."

It takes a lot longer than 25 years to change that.
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The political landscape and Islamism would probably see to it as well that thing aren't at all easy and it's not even stable or modern today.

As well, foreign intervention and influence in the region by China would likely upset conservatives, or lead to the nation not being as free from things as you'd like. And the Chinese love to pump money into things.
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Historically Afghanistan did have temporarily periods of "unity" under a strong man. In the 1700's they actually had significant power in their region under the Durrani Empire and there was a later dominant kingdom under the same family in the 20th century that ruled for 40-50 years before communist revolt happened because said kingdom kinda were against many things Afghani tribes stood up for and were seen as foreigners due to being basically pakistan people. Of which may make the nature of the fallen pakistan lead to a rather war filled, constantly shifting southern border due to the Pashtuns.

I also noticed these periods of unity never ever last [usually ending not long after the big man dies] which is not really a problem to me due to this RP's pace and I was going to have lots of problems for Afghanistan to begin with anyways.

Still I think that saying that Afghanistan will always be warlords and always was really over simplifies the situation. It's more like a oscillation of tribal warfare and lose unity from what I can tell. There's also the division between the major historical trade centers and the hill people. I don't see why a more stable Afghanistan in 2039 is impossible when it could just be a reactively more stable phase for the region.

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As well, foreign intervention and influence in the would likely upset conservatives, or lead to the nation not being as free from things as you'd like. And the Chinese love to pump money into things.


Thing is, I would be fine with that since China currently is like a massive NPC and the conditions I have in the stable regions would work just as well if China ran those corps. There'd still be ongoing insurrection problems and there still would be warlords. Only difference being there is more Chinese folk and military presence.

However, I find it a bit hard to see how they'd be able to have corps rule parts of Afghanistan when they can't even hold their own territories.
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What I meant by not enforcing Political Realism is allowing for rapid change in government structure and the ideology of the population. Not suddenly being able to stabilize a very unstable area.
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Well there's always stabilizing afghanistan internally through the brute force of a strong man military dictatorship or something along the lines of what the Taliban almost succeeded in doing in the late 1990's.

Of which would probably end up with Afghanistan falling to pieces again the second said strong man gets killed or simply falls apart due to terrorism in the controlled areas by whatever group is dominating due to the other factions. Outside interference not helping.
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Taliban's reign was destined to be shirt lived. And he, it didn't even conquer the entirety of Afghanistan. It just temporarily kept people in line by being so unimaginatively brutal that nobody knew how to react. Trying to unify the 'stan with anything less than that, like mellow liberal democracy, isn't going to work.
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