[OOC] Welcome Back to the Guild

[Gwazi Magnum]

I actually wasn't expecting that to work.
I purposely posted the intent/action to stab him in the head, and not the actual connect/result cause I expecting Gwazi to get thrown around like a ragdoll again. :P
But yea... A Critical would explain that. XD

[Neobullseye]

Somewhat random question: is anyone here who has Steam interested in the following games?
- Thief - The Master Thief Edition
- Murdered: Soul Suspect
- Lara Croft and The Guardian of Light
- Nosgoth Founders - Warlord Pack

...Or discount passes for these two games (You'll need an account on the Square Enix wrb store)?
- FINAL FANTASY XIII-2 (50% off)
- Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris with Season Pass (33% off)

If yes, I have gift Steam Keys (don't worry, they're fully legal) for one copy of each of those games. So yeah, if you're interested, just PM me :P

[booksmusicanime]

Kaga said
Your options are:-Ruby/Sapphire-Emerald-Firered/Leafgreen-Diamond/Pearl-Platinum-Heartgold/SoulSilver-Black/White-Black2/White2I just listed eight Pokemon games that can be played on a DS Lite. Fourteen if you count the twin games all as separate titles. that's only counting main series games and not counting spin-offs like Pokemon Dash, Pokemon Ranger, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, etc...I don't know who told you that there are no Pokemon games for DS - because, I mean, not only is wrong but the DS (originals and Lites) can play both DS and GBA games, and there are plenty of Pokemon GBA games, as well - but whoever told you that is a dirty fucking liar and they need to burn in punishment for their sins. Either that or they're a complete noob who thinks that Gen VI is where Pokemon all started. Which is almost just as bad. (Edit: Hell, having a DS Lite probably gives you options than, say, a DSi, since you can still play the GBA games. It might not be a 3DS but it's not as bad as it could be. You still got options, girl. Pokemon didn't just come around last year.)Sure, maybe you can't play any of the Pokemon games that are out now. And maybe you can't play the from like Gen I or II, but there are still to choose from. (Edit: Actually Black 2 and White 2 are still fairly recent, having come out in 2012. Have we really reached the point where a mere 2-3 years ago feels ancient to us? For fucks sake, society...) Out of the games listed, I suggest either Firered/Leafgreen Heartgold/Soulsilver. Firered/Leafgreen is a remake of Red/Blue/Green which were the original Pokemon games, so it's about as close as you can get to playing the original Pokemon story that started it all. Heartgold/Soulsilver is a remake of the Gen II Gold/Silver, which is also a rather classic story and, overall, I just feel like Heartgold/Soulsilver is a really well-made game. you could pick up Ruby/Sapphire since the remakes of those were released recently, so you can at least play the original versions of the games that everyone's talking about. Except, if you want a Gen III storyline, I recommend Emerald. It's a vast improvement over Ruby/Sapphire. Black/White I personally don't hate but the creature design for Gen V gets a lot of criticism, so it might not be a great place to start. I've actually never played Black2/White2 but I hear they're actual proper sequels or something, so you probably shouldn't go to them if you haven't played the original Black/White. Diamond/Pearl I'm just personally not a huge fan of and if you really want to play a DS title as opposed to a GBA one, I recommend Heartgold/Soulsilver. Platinum I hear is a lot better than Diamond/Pearl but I'm not sure I ever actually played that one, either. Get playing.Seriously though, who the fuck told you that there are no Pokemon games that you can play on a DS Lite?Edit: Aaaaugh now I can't even sleep cuz you got me all riled up about this. I assumed you just never had any Nintendo consoles growing up or w/e but man you grab just about any handheld Nintendo console and I could throw several handfuls of games at you. The fact that this misconception has gone uncorrected for so long is seriously bothering me. Like hell I get that you're still young put presumably you knew that Pokemon was a thing 2-3 years ago? Did you still have the DS Lite then? Cuz I'm assuming a console that old wasn't exactly a recent purchase. If it was then it must've been obtained at a used game store, and a used game store would surely have at least of the above titles stocked. It would also make you aware of the fact that used game stores exist - as the only possible explanation I can think of for you not thinking that you could buy any Pokemon games is if you didn't know that you could buy them used. But if that's the case then you didn't buy the DS used, which means you must've bought it when the DS Lite was a new thing, which means that Pokemon games compatible with it were new and being sold at that time. Which means you must've been aware of them and you knew that they existed so you couldn't have thought that no Pokemon games were compatible with a DS Lite. Also you could've bought and played them then. The only other possible explanation is that you just weren't aware that the Pokemon franchise existed at that time, which is not only extremely implausible but the fact that you said you were a "sad child" made it seem like you knew that Pokemon was a popular thing and you have known it for a while - and you're not just some kid who's only just discovering Pokemon for the first time.This is driving me mad. Not just "mad" as in "crazy" but also "mad" as in "upset" cuz man I was just about to go to sleep and now I can't stop thinking about this which is making me mildly angry. Get online and explain yourself.Edit2: Fuuuuuck I guess I'll just go find a politics thread or something and bore myself to sleep. That always seems to work.Edit3: This is why I shouldn't have started watching Sherlock. I officially hate life. I'm just done. I am a thousand times done.There's no need to blame yourself for all this, Books. I'm just mad at everything, now.Edit4: Seriously though please reply.Edit5: If possible, I want the liar's name and photograph. *clicks pen*

Sorry that 's taken me forever to reply to this. The guild hasn't been working and it finally started working today so I could make a reply.

First off I got my DS Lite as a Christmas present when I was about 8 or 9 and my family gave me a bunch of GameBoy games for it. Now I only know Pokemon as a card game until I really got into the world that is the internet. For crying out loud one of my 'sister' (not my actual sister but basically one) had a whole book of Pokemon cards and she gave me a shiny card (though I can't remember it). I only learned about the games once I got my laptop and started reading CreepyPastas. I've probably seen commercials for Pokemon before I read the Pokemon CreepyPastas but I don't remember them.

Also to note it was my PARENTS telling me that there are no Pokemon games for DS Lite. And yes I have other Nintendo consoles, the last one that I got being my Wii. My dad has a PS2 which none of his PS games will save on which will forever tick me off cause I want to play Final Fantasy and save my progress so I can sleep between playing.

Also funny story with the Wii. My grandpa ended up undecorating our Christmas tree when we were playing bowling on the Wii. He caught the garland on the tree and pulled it off. It was hilarious.

Also yes I did get my DS Lite when it was pretty new to market but I had no choice on my games I got and my family thought I was a girly girl so I got a lot of princess games that made me rage and throw my DS a few times, and that also includes my only not girly game (Final Fantasy 7 Advanced....screw my life). Also I would just like to point out THERE ARE NO USED VIDEO GAME SHOPS AROUND ME!!! I LIVE IN FREAKING FARMING COUNTRY!!! NO ONE HERE PLAYS USED VIDEO GAMES BUT ME!!! *coughs*

Also FREAKING USED AND OLDER VIDEO GAMES (especially Pokemon) ARE REALLY FREAKING EXPENSIVE!!! I do most of my shopping on Amazon due to there being no used video game stores near me. HeartGold/SoulSilver clock in at $117.99 I DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY!!! Especially around holiday season cause I went Christmas shopping for my friends. Now yes if you do buy them used from Amazon they are a lot cheaper but God knows what the previous owner did to it. I don't want to buy used stuff off the internet cause you don't know what the heck you'll get when it gets to your house.

Okay now that's enough of me ranting cause since the guild is being glitchy I don't want to retype twenty paragraphs of rant and me making my point that I live IN THE MIDDLE OF FREAKING NO WHERE!!!

Also give me a break on not replying, my birthday is in 5 days and Christmas is in 2 so I'm busy preparing for Christmas.

Also welcome to the wonderful world of Sherlock where you get a new season ever four years....>.> Still waiting for season four....

[Kaga]

booksmusicanime said
Sorry that 's taken me forever to reply to this. The guild hasn't been working and it finally started working today so I could make a reply. First off I got my DS Lite as a Christmas present when I was about 8 or 9 and my family gave me a bunch of GameBoy games for it.

If your parents got you Gameboy games by the time the DS lite was out... and if you're 13 now, which would mean you got the system about 4-5 years ago... would the Gameboy games already be used? Where did they get them if there are no used game shops near you?

Now I only know Pokemon as a card game until I really got into the world that is the internet. For crying out loud one of my 'sister' (not my actual sister but basically one) had a whole book of Pokemon cards and she gave me a shiny card (though I can't remember it).

I'm almost certain you're using this word wrong, but there are more pressing matters at hand so I'll let it slide.

I only learned about the games once I got my laptop and started reading CreepyPastas.

No wonder you don't want to buy any used copies.

I've probably seen commercials for Pokemon before I read the Pokemon CreepyPastas but I don't remember them.

Well then like I said, you would've seen Pokemon DS games. Black 2 and White 2 came out only a couple years ago.

Also to note it was my PARENTS telling me that there are no Pokemon games for DS Lite.

I'm assuming that, like most parents, they know very little about video games. In which case, they are hardly qualified to tell you this, and you should've just looked it up yourself.

I'll uh... *de-clicks pen and slides a black notebook under the bed* stop asking for names and pictures, at least.

And yes I have other Nintendo consoles, the last one that I got being my Wii.

Well just to clear things up, there are no main series Pokemon games for Wii. All the main series games are for handheld consoles.

My dad has a PS2 which none of his PS games will save on which will forever tick me off cause I want to play Final Fantasy and save my progress so I can sleep between playing.

There are also no Pokemon games (of any kind) for any non-Nintendo consoles. Same goes with pretty much all Nintendo properties.

Also funny story with the Wii. My grandpa ended up undecorating our Christmas tree when we were playing bowling on the Wii. He caught the garland on the tree and pulled it off. It was hilarious.

*serious business face*

Irrelevant.

Also yes I did get my DS Lite when it was pretty new to market but I had no choice on my games I got and my family thought I was a girly girl so I got a lot of princess games that made me rage and throw my DS a few times, and that also includes my only not girly game (Final Fantasy 7 Advanced....screw my life).

If you didn't like princess games, why didn't you ask for other things?

Also I would just like to point out THERE ARE NO USED VIDEO GAME SHOPS AROUND ME!!! I LIVE IN FREAKING FARMING COUNTRY!!! NO ONE HERE PLAYS USED VIDEO GAMES BUT ME!!!

If there are no used game stores near you, then were did your parents get the Gameboy games?

*coughs* Also FREAKING USED AND OLDER VIDEO GAMES (especially Pokemon) ARE REALLY FREAKING EXPENSIVE!!!

No they aren't.

Cite your sources.

I do most of my shopping on Amazon due to there being no used video game stores near me. HeartGold/SoulSilver clock in at $117.99

That's because, if you're buying them new, they're old enough to be a collector's item still boxed and all that. You have no choice but to get older games used unless you want to spend a fortune.

I DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY!!!

Then buy used.

Especially around holiday season cause I went Christmas shopping for my friends.

Understandable.

Buy used.

Now yes if you do buy them used from Amazon they are a lot cheaper

Duh.

but God knows what the previous owner did to it. I don't want to buy used stuff off the internet cause you don't know what the heck you'll get when it gets to your house.

You're being paranoid.

Buying used merchandise off the internet (especially from a trusted site like Amazon) isn't dangerous; it's economical. Especially when you want to casually purchase old video games and not add them to some collection of mint condition poke-merch.

Also I know you learned about Pokemon games thanks to Creepypasta but I'm here to tell you that Creepypasta is fiction.

You won't get some haunted cartridge delivered to your house if that's what you're worried about.

Unless you're worried that some guy shoved the thing up his rectum in which case it probably won't play on your system anyway. (And it's also unlikely. Who would do such a thing to a Pokemon game???)

Okay now that's enough of me ranting cause since the guild is being glitchy I don't want to retype twenty paragraphs of rant and me making my point that I live IN THE MIDDLE OF FREAKING NO WHERE!!!

And that's why the internet is a beautiful, beautiful thing.

Also give me a break on not replying, my birthday is in 5 days and Christmas is in 2 so I'm busy preparing for Christmas.

You found time to write like 5 IC posts since I wrote that.

Also it was driving me crazy. All I wanted was an explanation.

Also welcome to the wonderful world of Sherlock where you get a new season ever four years....>.> Still waiting for season four....

Yeah every word of this post went through my head in Benedict Cumberbatch's voice.

But regardless I hope you understand that I take Pokemon very seriously...

[Kaga]

HOLY SHIT I actually posted that without the Guild crashing!!

[Kaga]

Speaking of which, I uh... Well. This RP is almost a year old. Which is awesome, and I wanna keep it going, but... I'm not sure if the Guild will allow for that.

I wanted to mention this while I had the chance: I'm seriously considering migrating to another site (ideally Iwaku) if the Guild does not improve soon. While I want to have faith that Mahz will get around to fixing some things before the end of the holiday season, the site's downtime is so bad that it's down about 23 hours of the day. If Mahz doesn't do anything, it'll only get worse with time, and I'm really sick of his empty promises. I'm worried that it'll cause this RP, along with all my others, to die. And honestly if I could save just one, I would pick this one. I won't try to pack everything up if you guys don't want to, but I feel it's important to bring this issue up.

Thoughts on the subject?

[booksmusicanime]

I would be fine with moving the roleplay to a different site. Until the Guild gets better at least, cause I like the community on here which is why I'm so stubborn about leaving.

Yea I can tell you take Pokemon seriously and I CAN'T HELP BEING PARANOID!!! I SCARE THE LIFE OUT OF MYSELF ALL THE TIME IT'S MADE ME REALLY FREAKING PARANOID!

EDIT: The Guild would be in better shape if Mahz let some of the admins who have coding experience help him on working on the guild. It's hard for one person to balance both IRL and internet life...I struggle all the time balancing my IRL and internet life.

EDIT 2: Kaga I don't know if you've read the Speical in this week's news but you're mentioned in it.

[Neobullseye]

Kaga said
, I uh... Well. This RP is almost a year old. Which is , and I wanna keep it going, but... I'm not sure if the Guild will allow for that. I wanted to mention this while I had the chance: I'm seriously considering migrating to another site (ideally Iwaku) if the Guild does not improve soon. While I want to have faith that Mahz will get around to fixing some things before the end of the holiday season, the site's downtime is so bad that it's down about 23 hours of the day. If Mahz doesn't do anything, it'll only get worse with time, and I'm really sick of his empty promises. I'm worried that it'll cause this RP, along with all my others, to die. And honestly if I could save just one, I would pick this one. I won't try to pack everything up if you guys don't want to, but I feel it's important to bring this issue up.Thoughts on the subject?

Honestly, I'm getting pretty bummed by the fact that RPG is down more often than not too. If moving to Iwaku means I don't have to wait several hours until I can post again/read previous posts so that I can think of a reaction, then I'm all for it.

(Also, the offer in my previous post still stands. I'm not going to use those keys, so I might as well give them away to someone who might like the games.)

[Rithas]

Well, I mean...I'm okay with it. I dislike the formatting in the other site...But then again it isn't down about 9/10 of a day.

Also...HAPPY CHRISTMAS EVE....So close

[Kaga]

Huh. Seems we're unanimous on the subject, with the exception of Gwazi, who hasn't responded yet. Assuming he'll also be in favor of it, I'll move on to the next question:

Should we just try to transfer everything over exactly as is and pick up exactly where we left off... or should it be a slight re-boot? Sort of like what I did with this version of the RP after the original "Welcome to the Guild" went down thanks to Guildfall? (This would also give me a chance to come up with a new, creative title and use the continued destruction of RPG as a plot point... hmm...)

Edit: It would also help fix some of the weird stagnation we currently have, I think, and get some fresh blood in the thing, if any new members are willing to read the weird and now complex backstory behind this thing (hehe).

EDIT 2: Kaga I don't know if you've read the Speical in this week's news but you're mentioned in it.

Yeah, I saw. I'm fairly certain it was in reference to my past work as a WOTM manager. Myself and the rest of the WOTM crew had been trying to get a new contest running for so long, but couldn't because we needed a contest forum and, preferably, a managerial account with limited mod abilities like we had on the old site. We asked Mahz for these things several times. He said he would get them for us. That didn't happen. *sigh* And then the other two managers packed up and moved to Iwaku for good without ever properly telling me...

But thank you for reminding me to add that to the list of times I was mentioned on the Guild news. Because I am extremely self-absorbed and I do keep lists of that sort of thing.

[Rithas]

No....I think we should just pick it up as we left off. Hell, that what I did with a rp from a different site to this site...Surprising easy...

But....I dunno about you, but the site hasn't been too bad so far for the last two days...so...I wanna keep hope in it for a tiny bit

[booksmusicanime]

The main reason why we've been crashing so much is because everyone who is in school is off. If you're like me and make replies at midnight then you have NO risk of crashing. I'm just replying now cause I'll be leaving later today cause I have to go to my grandparents.

[Gwazi Magnum]

Neobullseye said Thief - The Master Thief Edition

I have some interest in this one.
I remember playing a Thief demo as a kid and really liking it.

But I have enough games coming up on Christmas (Including Alpha Sapphire :3) that I'm bound to be occupied for a while.
So I'd leave me as a "If there is no one else at all who wants it" option.

booksmusicanime said Now I only know Pokemon as a card game until I really got into the world that is the internet.

Kind of shows how small the pokemon community is there. :/
Back in my schools, the games and card game are both huge. Especially in college.

booksmusicanime said she gave me a shiny card

Foil :P
It's especially important to get that right in pokemon, because there are shiny pokemon which are re-colourations of a certain pokemon.

booksmusicanime said Also to note it was my PARENTS telling me that there are no Pokemon games for DS Lite.

Most parents today don't really know much about video games.
It's not going to be until another 10-15 years where a decent portion of parents are game knowledgeable (but even then, a lot of the parents are going to be your preppy and jock type people from school. Who barely touched games growing up. Outside of a few big titles like Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed).

booksmusicanime said My dad has a PS2 which none of his PS games will save on which will forever tick me off cause I want to play Final Fantasy and save my progress so I can sleep between playing.

*Not much a PS gamer so googles this quickly*

Just buy an original playstation memory card and plug it in.

booksmusicanime said THERE ARE NO USED VIDEO GAME SHOPS AROUND ME!!! I LIVE IN FREAKING FARMING COUNTRY!!! NO ONE HERE PLAYS USED VIDEO GAMES BUT ME!!! *coughs* Also FREAKING USED AND OLDER VIDEO GAMES (especially Pokemon) ARE REALLY FREAKING EXPENSIVE!!! I do most of my shopping on Amazon due to there being no used video game stores near me. HeartGold/SoulSilver clock in at $117.99 I DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY!!!

$60
$52.50
$47 + Comes with Soulsilver
$30
$20

If it's costing you over 100 all I can assume is that it's shipping cost.
In which case, just find a seller whose close to you rather than across the globe.

booksmusicanime said Now yes if you do buy them used from Amazon they are a lot cheaper but God knows what the previous owner did to it. I don't want to buy used stuff off the internet cause you don't know what the heck you'll get when it gets to your house.

It's a risk, I'll admit it.
But there's little that can happen other than "The Cartridge doesn't work".
I bought both Kotor 2 and Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance on Ebay before when I was younger, both work completely fine.
So although a risk, it's a small one (Cause user reviews of the seller is a thing) and one that never happened to me personally.

Hell I know people who use Ebay and Amazon like their go-to shopping malls.

Kaga said *serious business face* Irrelevant.

Kaga said You found time to write like 5 IC posts since I wrote that.

[2].

Well, [2] to basically everything Kaga said (especially the shopping online isn't that dangerous part), but this specifically I felt needed pointing out.

Kaga said But regardless I hope you understand that I take Pokemon very seriously...

Also [2], but I just HAVE to add. :P

Kaga said HOLY SHIT I actually posted that without the Guild crashing!!

You know the Guild is doing bad when a reaction like this is warranted. :/

Kaga said I uh... Well. This RP is almost a year old. Which is , and I wanna keep it going, but... I'm not sure if the Guild will allow for that.

I wanted to mention this while I had the chance: I'm seriously considering migrating to another site (ideally Iwaku) if the Guild does not improve soon. While I want to have faith that Mahz will get around to fixing some things before the end of the holiday season, the site's downtime is so bad that it's down about 23 hours of the day. If Mahz doesn't do anything, it'll only get worse with time, and I'm really sick of his empty promises. I'm worried that it'll cause this RP, along with all my others, to die. And honestly if I could save just one, I would pick this one. I won't try to pack everything up if you guys don't want to, but I feel it's important to bring this issue up.

Thoughts on the subject?

I agree completely.
And being perfectly honest? I might have left the Guild by now if not for this RP.

I mean honestly, spam is dead, OT is dead, member longue has always been blog central, and RP discussion purposely dismisses/looks down on people concerned about the site.

Plus, my attempts on the facebook group to draw attention to it has basically gotten the "If you're not happy with the situation and Mahz's way of handling it you can leave" response.
More than enough to make me go "Screw this" and go, if I didn't feel like I was abandoning people/a commitment by doing so.

That and being perfectly honestly, you and MDK the only friends I have on the Guild who hasn't already quit/vanished in response to Guilds situation.
So if you left to another site I'd have almost 0 reason to be sticking around here now other than be Nostalgic of the old days.

[Gwazi Magnum]

Kaga said Should we just try to transfer everything over exactly as is and pick up exactly where we left off... or should it be a re-boot? Sort of like what I did with this version of the RP after the original "Welcome to the Guild" went down thanks to Guildfall?

I'll stay neutral on this.
I'm a new addition, you people are the ones who have invested a long period of time into this.

booksmusicanime said If you're like me and make replies at midnight then you have NO risk of crashing. I'm just replying now cause I'll be leaving later today cause I have to go to my grandparents.

Eh... My sleep schedules all over the place so I've been trying to get on at all 24 hours of the clock at some point.
And I can say personally that the odds of the site being up are totally luck based, there doesn't seem to be a 'lucky' time to post at.

And even if there was... That is pretty bad, the only time you can post is when your friends aren't on to reply.

[Kaga]

I agree that the Guild has been improving in the past 24 hours, but that's likely due to decreased traffic thanks to Christmas Eve. I expect it'll get worse in the long run if Mahz doesn't fix the server or that "cache issue" I've kept hearing about which is probably adding to the problem.

I'll keep an eye on things for a bit longer, but I'll also start preparing to move.

[Kaga]

Also RELEVANT!

[Rithas]

huh...

[Gwazi Magnum]

Kaga said I agree that the Guild has been improving in the past 24 hours, but that's likely due to decreased traffic thanks to Christmas Eve. I expect it'll get worse in the long run if Mahz doesn't fix the server or that "cache issue" I've kept hearing about which is probably adding to the problem.I'll keep an eye on things for a bit longer, but I'll also start preparing to move.

*Mini-rant incoming*

It's not helpful that Mahz has only ever posted one update, weeks ago simply going "working on it".
Especially considering his reputation to promise stuff and then never fulfill it. Like your WOTM issue, when MDK gathered me and others to try to make another kind of contest we were also stopped in our tracks because Mahz never made the new section like he promised.

This issue has persisted for years.
I defened Mahz when the Old Guild crashed, cause that was the businesses fault and not his.
But I'm not going to defend Mahz this time, I might have if he was in a bad situation IRL and kepted us at least somewhat informed as to that he's busy and what the issues are.

But considering he's basically maintained radio silence, expecting other admins and mods to defend him with claims of 'IRL stuff' without any details as to anything either on the Guild side or IRL side. And then the only actual insight we get had to be leaked from a private IRC chat because he's so lip tight about the issue? It's no surprise the site is falling apart and people are leaving. And the admins and mods getting defensive and hostile towards those left and concerned about the trend is not helping matters.

[Gwazi Magnum]

Also, found this on the Guild's facebook group (which is more active than ever now with the Guild problems) and felt it related to our group specifically well. :P

[Neobullseye]

Kaga said
Also, RELEVANT! [link cut]

..Kaga? Are you using stuff again?