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Anywho I have two last thoughts on this over all.

Liz and Patty wield one another, so clearly a weapon can use a weapon, which tells me that weapons can utilize their spiritual wave length; but just like how 99 percent of humans don't have the overwhelming gifts of people like black star and Stine, the same can be said for weapons and most are better utilized in a team as the amplifier.

Secondly; It really doesn't matter what is or is not cannon, this is Circus's game and if Circus does not OK your character then that is simple the end of the argument in my opinion.
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well my opinion and the point he made after that had no correlation, so it doesn't really make sense the way he said it.
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KiltmanBagz said
Liz and Patty wield one another, so clearly a weapon can use a weapon, which tells me that weapons can utilize their spiritual wave length; but just like how 99 percent of humans don't have the overwhelming gifts of people like black star and Stine, the same can be said for weapons and most are better utilized in a team as the amplifier.


:) Yes! Thank you, Kilt, I knew there was an example I wasn't thinking of. It's not that being a Weapon means you cannot have a soul wavelength, it's that without a weapon, you cannot do anything with your soul wavelength (or at the very least, you cannot optimize it; Black Star and Stein both use Weapons constantly). You can be both a Meister and a Weapon at the same time, ala the sisters in the above (as they had been using each other for years before Kid ever met them), but that doesn't mean you can be autonomous as either.

EDIT: And none of this even gets into magic, and what's possible with that...
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But both Liz and Patty said themselves they can't fight at full potential without Kid. The weapons seem to have SOME residual soul wavelength, but not enough to be truely autonomous (Except specific examples like Justin). I believe Liz and Patty can only fight alone because they bounce their soul wavelengths back and forth until they're strong enough.
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-sigh- That's exactly the point. They don't fight alone, they fight together. That's how every single Meister/Weapon pair in the series fights. Together.

Being a Demon Weapon does not automatically mean you cannot be a Meister, and vice versa. They are two separate things, with two separate roles. Being an autonomous Weapon, on the other hand, requires entirely outstanding power, and being an autonomous Meister requires the same.

EDIT: This is why Maka's autonomous Weapon-ness at the end of the anime is rather disappointing. She hadn't earned that, there wasn't any build up to it, nothing. It was just pulled out of thin air, and because the manga went on without any mention of it, it seems ridiculous in hindsight.
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So, my conclusion:
Eli will remain Autonomous, mostly, though will be weaker as Autonomous. No use of soul wavelength at all. He will remain a sword, because 'dat backstory tho'. Will not really have a Meister because 'do not want'. If someone is dying to make a Meister for him, though, I guess he can be their partner, as well as fighting himself, Autonomously.

Is everybody happy?
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Jivusa said
So, my conclusion:
Eli will remain Autonomous, though will be weaker as Autonomous. No use of soul wavelength at all. He will remain a sword, because 'dat backstory tho'. Will not really have a Meister because 'do not want'. If someone is dying to make a Meister for him, though, I guess he can be their partner, as well as fighting himself, Autonomously.

Is everybody happy?


If he's NOT, I don't think it matters. He isn't going to be fighting anyone or going on missions anyway, so having a Meister is more of a formality.
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If he's NOT, I don't think it matters. He isn't going to be fighting anyone or going on missions anyway, so having a Meister is more of a formality.


Yeah, he's just starting education with it due to Lord Death's approval and supervision.
But, when he graduates, and becomes stronger, he can make his mind up about having a Meister or remaining Autonomous.
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I want to go to Death Robins and get some Ice Cream.
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I want to go to Death Robins and get some Ice Cream.


Soul-flavored Ice Cream
"Doesn't really taste like anything, but the texture feels good going down." ~Soul "Eater" Evans
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Heh. I love the ridiculous names some of the characters have... I mean, in what other story would a character literally named "Franken Stein" play such an integral and emotional role in the plot?
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Heh. I love the ridiculous names some of the characters have... I mean, in what other story would a character literally named "Franken Stein" play such an integral and emotional role in the plot?


The Frankenstein Monster.
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...which remained nameless. It was simply "the creature". Doctor Frankenstein's name was Victor.

EDIT: What I mean is, how did he get that name? Did he read the book and change it, like Soul changed his? Does the book even exist in the Soul Eater universe?
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH someone knows their stuff :P
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I, um, I don't get it. What do you mean, Jivusa?
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Reading more of the Manga, Kilik is being a badass. Kid uses two weapons, but after Kid disappears Kilik uses FOUR

(Fire, Thunder, Liz and Patty)
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You graduate when you make Death Scythe, don't you? o 3o

Kilik OP.
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...which remained nameless. It was simply "the creature". Doctor Frankenstein's name was Victor.EDIT: What I mean is, how did he get that name? Did he read the book and change it, like Soul changed his? Does the book even exist in the Soul Eater universe?


Yeah, I know, But his last name is Frankenstein. And he created the monster.
Not sure. But when it showed flashbacks of him, Spirit called him Franken. And they looked like they were both around 11. Maybe born with the name. Although, he could have changed his last name to Stein later on. What I want to know is, how did he get that giant friggin bolt stuck in his head? O.o

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I, um, I don't get it. What do you mean, Jivusa?


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